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So I got a ticket for lapsed insurance (it had expired a few months
previously and I got it renewed the next day, after ticket was
issued).

However, I've discovered that I must go to court to settle the ticket.
Is there anything I should be aware of? What kind of penalties am I
looking at?

Thanks in advance!

You're going to jail, dude.

In article <bf5b5f84.0308061916.565b58d@posting.google.com> ,
para111@yahoo.com (mackle) wrote:

>So I got a ticket for lapsed insurance (it had expired a few months
>previously and I got it renewed the next day, after ticket was
>issued).
>
>However, I've discovered that I must go to court to settle the ticket.
>Is there anything I should be aware of? What kind of penalties am I
>looking at?
>
>Thanks in advance!

It depends on the judge. The "few months" part probably means you're
getting the full fine. It appears to be an infraction, so up to $100 if
this is the first time you've recently been caught without insurance.
Bail varies by county so it could be any crazy number, even much more
than the fine.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vctoc.htm

A friend of mine knew someone who took his dad car without being insured.
He got into an accident. As result an 18 wheeler rolled over into a ditch
loosing its cargo worth over 200000$.
His dad had a choice of declaring the car stolen or paying the bill...

"mackle" <para111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bf5b5f84.0308061916.565b58d@posting.google.co m...
> So I got a ticket for lapsed insurance (it had expired a few months
> previously and I got it renewed the next day, after ticket was
> issued).
>
> However, I've discovered that I must go to court to settle the ticket.
> Is there anything I should be aware of? What kind of penalties am I
> looking at?
>
> Thanks in advance!

"Paul Bielec" <me@no.spam> wrote in message news:bgtt70$s6o$1@dns3.cae.ca...
> A friend of mine knew someone who took his dad car without being insured.
> He got into an accident. As result an 18 wheeler rolled over into a ditch
> loosing its cargo worth over 200000$.
> His dad had a choice of declaring the car stolen or paying the bill...

Well, if he didn't have Dad's permission (and I hope not, given his
insurance status)....well, geez...isn't taking something without permission
stealing?


> "mackle" <para111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bf5b5f84.0308061916.565b58d@posting.google.co m...
> > So I got a ticket for lapsed insurance (it had expired a few months
> > previously and I got it renewed the next day, after ticket was
> > issued).
> >
> > However, I've discovered that I must go to court to settle the ticket.
> > Is there anything I should be aware of? What kind of penalties am I
> > looking at?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
>
>

Me thinks your are talking about two different things here. Using
a vehicle without the owners permission is a different violation
than driving a stolen vehicle. Driving a stolen vehicle is a
criminal offense, of at least possession. UWP of the owner is a
moving violation. As to insurance IF a vehicle is insured the
owners insurance carrier is responsible for any damage caused by
that vehicle, no matter who is driving, even a thief. An
uninsured vehicle is another story. In that instance the drivers
insurance carrier, if he own a vehicle, is responsible. If the
car and the driver are uninsured, both are up the creek for the
cost of the damage.


mike hunt


Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> "Paul Bielec" <me@no.spam> wrote in message news:bgtt70$s6o$1@dns3.cae.ca...
> > A friend of mine knew someone who took his dad car without being insured.
> > He got into an accident. As result an 18 wheeler rolled over into a ditch
> > loosing its cargo worth over 200000$.
> > His dad had a choice of declaring the car stolen or paying the bill...
>
> Well, if he didn't have Dad's permission (and I hope not, given his
> insurance status)....well, geez...isn't taking something without permission
> stealing?
>
> > "mackle" <para111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:bf5b5f84.0308061916.565b58d@posting.google.co m...
> > > So I got a ticket for lapsed insurance (it had expired a few months
> > > previously and I got it renewed the next day, after ticket was
> > > issued).
> > >
> > > However, I've discovered that I must go to court to settle the ticket.
> > > Is there anything I should be aware of? What kind of penalties am I
> > > looking at?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >

<MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F32F5EB.55A2CF2C@mailcity.com...
> That is the way it is in pretty much every state. Pick a state
> and do a search, WBMA. Try Pa Title 75 for one, title 90 for
> another.

Oh....the US.

Pa title? wtf?

> mike hunt
>
>
> Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> >
> > <MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F32BEC0.1BAC117C@mailcity.com...
> > > Me thinks your are talking about two different things here. Using
> > > a vehicle without the owners permission is a different violation
> > > than driving a stolen vehicle.
> >
> > How so?
> > What juristiction?
> >
> > Driving a stolen vehicle is a
> > > criminal offense, of at least possession. UWP of the owner is a
> > > moving violation. As to insurance IF a vehicle is insured the
> > > owners insurance carrier is responsible for any damage caused by
> > > that vehicle, no matter who is driving, even a thief. An
> > > uninsured vehicle is another story. In that instance the drivers
> > > insurance carrier, if he own a vehicle, is responsible. If the
> > > car and the driver are uninsured, both are up the creek for the
> > > cost of the damage.
> > >
> > >
> > > mike hunt
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Paul Bielec" <me@no.spam> wrote in message
> > news:bgtt70$s6o$1@dns3.cae.ca...
> > > > > A friend of mine knew someone who took his dad car without being
> > insured.
> > > > > He got into an accident. As result an 18 wheeler rolled over into
a
> > ditch
> > > > > loosing its cargo worth over 200000$.
> > > > > His dad had a choice of declaring the car stolen or paying the
bill...
> > > >
> > > > Well, if he didn't have Dad's permission (and I hope not, given his
> > > > insurance status)....well, geez...isn't taking something without
> > permission
> > > > stealing?
> > > >
> > > > > "mackle" <para111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bf5b5f84.0308061916.565b58d@posting.google.co m...
> > > > > > So I got a ticket for lapsed insurance (it had expired a few
months
> > > > > > previously and I got it renewed the next day, after ticket was
> > > > > > issued).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, I've discovered that I must go to court to settle the
> > ticket.
> > > > > > Is there anything I should be aware of? What kind of penalties
am I
> > > > > > looking at?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > >
> > > > >

That is the way it is in pretty much every state. Pick a state
and do a search, WBMA. Try Pa Title 75 for one, title 90 for
another.


mike hunt


Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> <MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3F32BEC0.1BAC117C@mailcity.com...
> > Me thinks your are talking about two different things here. Using
> > a vehicle without the owners permission is a different violation
> > than driving a stolen vehicle.
>
> How so?
> What juristiction?
>
> Driving a stolen vehicle is a
> > criminal offense, of at least possession. UWP of the owner is a
> > moving violation. As to insurance IF a vehicle is insured the
> > owners insurance carrier is responsible for any damage caused by
> > that vehicle, no matter who is driving, even a thief. An
> > uninsured vehicle is another story. In that instance the drivers
> > insurance carrier, if he own a vehicle, is responsible. If the
> > car and the driver are uninsured, both are up the creek for the
> > cost of the damage.
> >
> >
> > mike hunt
> >
> >
> > Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> > >
> > > "Paul Bielec" <me@no.spam> wrote in message
> news:bgtt70$s6o$1@dns3.cae.ca...
> > > > A friend of mine knew someone who took his dad car without being
> insured.
> > > > He got into an accident. As result an 18 wheeler rolled over into a
> ditch
> > > > loosing its cargo worth over 200000$.
> > > > His dad had a choice of declaring the car stolen or paying the bill...
> > >
> > > Well, if he didn't have Dad's permission (and I hope not, given his
> > > insurance status)....well, geez...isn't taking something without
> permission
> > > stealing?
> > >
> > > > "mackle" <para111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:bf5b5f84.0308061916.565b58d@posting.google.co m...
> > > > > So I got a ticket for lapsed insurance (it had expired a few months
> > > > > previously and I got it renewed the next day, after ticket was
> > > > > issued).
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I've discovered that I must go to court to settle the
> ticket.
> > > > > Is there anything I should be aware of? What kind of penalties am I
> > > > > looking at?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > >

Because I did that previously, several posts ago;

Driving a stolen vehicle is a criminal offense, of at least,
possession of stolen property. Use Without Permission of the
owner is a moving violation subject to citation.

California is a state as well, did you think it was a country?


mike hunt




Stephen Bigelow wrote:
>
> <MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3F32FC92.4E90A812@mailcity.com...
> > And here I though the way you want to jump in on nearly every
> > post, you wanted to give the impression you know everything about
> > everything.
>
> I can't help what you think.
>
> Titles are the Code books in which laws are listed.
> > Title 75 is the Pa Motor Vehicle code, Title 90 is the Pa
> > Criminal Code. Do a search for the verification you seek
> > Or try (any state).gov/codes
> >
> > mike hunt
>
> Oh!
> Pa is Pennsyvania State!
> Thanks!....(Cripes...how in Hell was I to know that....)
>
> Oh crap....doesn't seem to be an official, online version....
> Title 75, subchapter B, 7116 mumbles about fraudulent removal from garage,
> but it looks like they mean a "commercial" garage...like attempting to break
> a mechanics lien, if such things exist in Pennsylvania.
>
> Don't suppose you could just "tell" me the difference between borrowing a
> car without permission, and stealing, could you?
> Thanks again.

<MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:3F330D9C.8EA66A6@mailcity.com...
> Because I did that previously, several posts ago;
>
> Driving a stolen vehicle is a criminal offense, of at least,
> possession of stolen property. Use Without Permission of the
> owner is a moving violation subject to citation.

OK. That tells me the carry different penalties.
Doesn't sound like you actually know the difference other than that, though,
how to determine which has occurred.

Thanks anyways!
Appreciate your assistance
> California is a state as well, did you think it was a country?

Sorry if I'm not familiar with your state abbreviations.

>> > Oh!
> > Pa is Pennsylvania State!
> > Thanks!....(Cripes...how in Hell was I to know that....)