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Anyone have problems with bird crap in hot weather eating through the paint
on a 2001 Accord (red) in short order?

LRM

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In article <morris.1058709473@galileo.sce.carleton.ca>,
morris@galileo.sce.carleton.ca (Bob Morris) wrote:

>Anyone have problems with bird crap in hot weather eating through the paint
>on a 2001 Accord (red) in short order?
>
>LRM

Did it eat through the surface or just stain it? Bird crap stains go
away after a while.

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:04:37 GMT, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@sonic.net>
wrote:

>In article <morris.1058709473@galileo.sce.carleton.ca>,
> morris@galileo.sce.carleton.ca (Bob Morris) wrote:
>
>>Anyone have problems with bird crap in hot weather eating through the paint
>>on a 2001 Accord (red) in short order?
>>
>>LRM
>
>Did it eat through the surface or just stain it? Bird crap stains go
>away after a while.

Not all of them! It's well known that these can sometimes permanently
damage the paint by corroding the upper layers. I always remove bird
droppings the instant I notice them because I've experienced the
problem on my own vehicles in the past.

Ron

> >Did it eat through the surface or just stain it? Bird
crap stains go
> >away after a while.
>
> Not all of them! It's well known that these can
sometimes permanently
> damage the paint by corroding the upper layers. I
always remove bird
> droppings the instant I notice them because I've
experienced the
> problem on my own vehicles in the past.

I agree. Depending on the species and most recent meal,
bird droppings can have a pH as low as 3. If the suspect
was a berry-eater, forget about it. Droppings will most
definitely etch your clearcoat and paint in a surprisingly
short period of time.

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@sonic.net> writes:

>In article <morris.1058709473@galileo.sce.carleton.ca>,
> morris@galileo.sce.carleton.ca (Bob Morris) wrote:

>>Anyone have problems with bird crap in hot weather eating through the paint
>>on a 2001 Accord (red) in short order?
>>
>>LRM

>Did it eat through the surface or just stain it? Bird crap stains go
>away after a while.

Case 1) Winter. left it on for a week since I never had had trouble with
91 Accord. Could leave bird crap on 91 Accord for weeks and it washed
off with no scar.

Result: mild crackling of paint over a 4 sq inch area.
Hard to see, but is there. Will not go away.

Case 2) Summer 30+ deg C heat. (85F?) As I am retired, I was checking
the car daily.
Round spot about 1/3" dia was suddenly noticed on hood.
When removed, had eaten to white primer. Could not have been there
for more than a day or so. (Car is pepper red, BTW.)

Case 3) Summer 30+ deg C heat. Spot on lower front of hood about 1/2" dia.
When washed off paint was crackled but not eaten through.
Again, could not have been there for more than a day or so.

When I'd bought the car I'd paid for "CBC Paint glaze."
Assumed it would perform as Diamond coat on 91 and whatever I had
on the 93.

Any one who sells a car whose paint can be ruined by ordinary
evvironmental events while the owner is away for two days is in real trouble.
Trust me. Two weeks maybe. But two days, no way.

My two sons have 93 Accords, one of which I formerly owned.
And I still own a 91 Accord SE.

No bird scars on any -- and non are washed often.

My third son has a 99 Protege (green) which he never washes.
Well, twice a year. There are no bird scars.

I have waxed the car but the damage is done.

I will be dealing with this in the appropriate manner.

LRM

Bob Morris wrote:
>
> Anyone have problems with bird crap in hot weather eating through the paint
> on a 2001 Accord (red) in short order?
>
> LRM

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Bob,
A further observation: Birds eat gravel / sand for roughage to help with
their digestion. When removing droppings from your car, rubbing should
be avoided, unless you _like_ the sound of sandpaper taking off your
already softened paint.

'Curly'

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On 30 Jul 2003 12:19:57 -0700, irataxy@hotmail.com (nc) wrote:

>morris@galileo.sce.carleton.ca (Bob Morris) wrote in message news:<morris.1058709473@galileo.sce.carleton.ca>.. .
>> Anyone have problems with bird crap in hot weather eating through the paint
>> on a 2001 Accord (red) in short order?
>>
>> LRM
>
>Yes! Bird crap ate through the silver paint on our 2001 Honda Accord.
>This did not take very long to happen. We live in Hawaii, so I don't
>know if warm climate aids in this.
>
>I took the car into the dealer and they took digital photos of it.
>They said they had to clear any non-compensated repair work of this
>type with the district manager first. Yesterday they called me back
>and said my claim was denied. The district manager said the problem
>was not a paint defect. I called the Honda care phone number and
>registered a complaint. They said they would send an email to the
>dealer asking them to re-investigate the claim.
>
>Anyone else have any other opinions on actions that I can take? The
>Honda customer service representative said that this is
>"environmental" damage not covered by warranty. Funny, the 1981 Honda
>Accord we sold three years ago still had great paint.

Yep it's "environmental" damage alright - the new "environmental" paints
are just bloody useless.:-(

Rgds, George Macdonald

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