Honda Car Forum

Bought one after years of reading good reports in Consumers.
Own two Windstars now....test drove Dodge.

Cant say I didnt do my homework but after a few weeks of driving there a
couple things I like and dont like.

Like:
Exremely quite engine and ride.
Solid feel, handles very well.
rear seat recessed into floor.
Price seemed to be about same as Dodge Grand equivalent.

Dont Like
A/C is wimpy.....long time for air to get cold and cool down cab.
Not many inside amenities.....passenger controlled air etc.
Doors dont lock automatically when start driving.
No leather on steering wheel.
Turn ratio to large of steering wheel ....To much steering wheel turn for
radius
Parking Brake doesnt retract automatically when put in drive.
Side doors dont open if transmission no in park.
Seats not great....need more support on sides of legs..too too flat seat.
Center fold down table...would like console.
Cup holders in dash are not adjustable for large cups.
No data display:
No outside air temp measurement,
No mileage, No compass,
what is full auto vs auto on climate control?

Like to hear you thoughts.
What $ can I get for a Odyssey with 1200 miles on it?

Thanks

In article <HI52sB.BKD@news.boeing.com>, "JASONST" <JASONST@AOL.COM>
wrote:

> Dont Like
> A/C is wimpy.....long time for air to get cold and cool down cab.

Wow. My 02 Odyssey doesn't have this problem a bit. In fact, according
to a Honda mechanic friend of mine, Honda solved their A/C issues
starting with the 98 Accord (I don't know if this follows for the
Civic-based vehicles). And in fact, I have an 00 Accord that blows so
cold, I have to turn it down--a first for Honda.



> Not many inside amenities.....passenger controlled air etc.

Welcome to Honda. That's just their style, is all. They don't do a lot
of packages, a lot of goodies, etc, etc. In fact, they try their best
to standardize things across the board, to reduce costs. You'll see a
lot of things being used in all Hondas, from the Accord LX to the Acura
RL.


> Doors dont lock automatically when start driving.

I guess I've never understood the attraction of this "feature".



> Side doors dont open if transmission no in park.

Safety feature with motorized doors. Makes perfect sense to me.



> What $ can I get for a Odyssey with 1200 miles on it?

I'll give you $20K for it.

My 99 has it. What year is yours?

> Not many inside amenities.....passenger controlled air etc.

In article <3F163125.5AA9FBAD@znet.com>,
Sean Dinh <seannydinh@znet.com> wrote:

> My 99 has it. What year is yours?
>
> > Not many inside amenities.....passenger controlled air etc.

No, he means dual-zone climate control, with separate temperature
control for the passenger. It's one of those things that Chrysler puts
into their vans to make you forget that you've bought a Chrysler. At
least the passenger can control his own temperature while waiting for
the tow truck.

LOL .. It amazes me what some people find important. "Sure my car is
unsafe and will only last a few years but at least it's got an adjustable
cup holder and two heat knobs."


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:QQuRa.10610$O8.10557@fe11.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> In article <3F163125.5AA9FBAD@znet.com>,
> Sean Dinh <seannydinh@znet.com> wrote:
>
> > My 99 has it. What year is yours?
> >
> > > Not many inside amenities.....passenger controlled air etc.
>
> No, he means dual-zone climate control, with separate temperature
> control for the passenger. It's one of those things that Chrysler puts
> into their vans to make you forget that you've bought a Chrysler. At
> least the passenger can control his own temperature while waiting for
> the tow truck.
>

"JASONST" <JASONST@AOL.COM> wrote in message
news:HI52sB.BKD@news.boeing.com...
> Bought one after years of reading good reports in Consumers.
> Own two Windstars now....test drove Dodge.
>
> Cant say I didnt do my homework but after a few weeks of driving there a
> couple things I like and dont like.
>
> Like:
> Exremely quite engine and ride.
> Solid feel, handles very well.
> rear seat recessed into floor.
> Price seemed to be about same as Dodge Grand equivalent.

Two out of three of these are very important and you forgot to mention
efficient and safe. But also, look how trivial the things that you do not
like. Any other car is going to be the opposite. All fancy little
things but it will lack in the most important things.

> Dont Like
> A/C is wimpy.....long time for air to get cold and cool down cab.

No problems on our AC. Cools down the car very quickly.

> Not many inside amenities.....passenger controlled air etc.
> Doors dont lock automatically when start driving.
> No leather on steering wheel.
> Turn ratio to large of steering wheel ....To much steering wheel turn for
> radius
> Parking Brake doesnt retract automatically when put in drive.

Safety. makes sense. Not "off" until YOU take it off.

> Side doors dont open if transmission no in park.

Safety feature. I have hit those door buttons several times while driving.
Can't tell you how nervous I was just thinking about them opening up while
driving down the road at 50 mph. Only makes sense.

> Seats not great....need more support on sides of legs..too too flat seat.

Could use improvement in the seating area.

> Center fold down table...would like console.
> Cup holders in dash are not adjustable for large cups.
> No data display:

Way over rated.

> No outside air temp measurement,

I agree with you here. I miss my outside temp.

> No mileage, No compass,

Never understood the compass thing. Unless your Columbus discovering new
land. We have signs every mile telling us what direction we are going.

> what is full auto vs auto on climate control?
>
> Like to hear you thoughts.
> What $ can I get for a Odyssey with 1200 miles on it?

The problem with selling a Ody with that many miles is that the car holds
it's value so well that they are similarly priced to the new ones and almost
everyone will opt for the new. So the seller ends up lowering the price
below its value and loosing money just to try and sell.

>
> Thanks
>
>

its a 2003 with 1200 miles on it....Odyssey


"Sean Dinh" <seannydinh@znet.com> wrote in message
news:3F163125.5AA9FBAD@znet.com...
> My 99 has it. What year is yours?
>
> > Not many inside amenities.....passenger controlled air etc.
>

In article <3hxRa.870$lL.97301@nnrp1.ptd.net>,
"OurFamily" <NotReally@ptd.net> wrote:

> > A/C is wimpy.....long time for air to get cold and cool down cab.
>
> No problems on our AC. Cools down the car very quickly.

I was musing over this, and it occurred to me: many people, my wife
included, seem to think that if the A/C is on it must be blowing arctic
cold air all the time. A/C is an on/off proposition to these people.

But with the Honda automatic climate control, I've discovered that it's
not that way. Set the dial to 72, and you know what the Honda blows out
the vents? Air set to a moderate temperature, to maintain that 72
degrees. Sure, initially it will blow cold (or hot, as needed) to get
the temperature to that level; as the target temperature is being
approached it will moderate the temperature, while blowing the fan at
high speed; then, as the target temperature is reached, it will keep
blowing the moderate temperature air at low fan speeds. When sun hits
the windshield, the fan speed will increase and the temperature MAY
change, depending on how low you've set the dial.

So those who think that their Odysseys aren't blowing cold air, are
probably all EX owners with auto climate control--and Honda's way of
doing auto climate control is different than they expect. It's not that
it can't do it; it's that it behaves differently, that's all.

To solve this problem, set the dial all the way down to 60. According
to the owner's manual, this will set the A/C to a manual mode like
you're used to; it will blow the coldest air possible. Then turn the
fan to a speed that's to your liking. Voila--manual climate control.

And you'll see that the Odyssey can blow meat-locker cold air, no
problem.

Lessee if I have this right ..

You complain that "Doors dont lock automatically when start driving" and
then a little bit later you complain that "Side doors dont open if
transmission no in park".

So, you want the doors to lock while in "drive", but the doors still should
be able to open? Huh?

I am glad that you are not working for Honda or my Odyssey might slip into
reverse when I put the emergency brake on.

--Monty

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"JASONST" <JASONST@AOL.COM> wrote in message
news:HI52sB.BKD@news.boeing.com...
> Bought one after years of reading good reports in Consumers.
> Own two Windstars now....test drove Dodge.
>
> Cant say I didnt do my homework but after a few weeks of driving there a
> couple things I like and dont like.
>
> Like:
> Exremely quite engine and ride.
> Solid feel, handles very well.
> rear seat recessed into floor.
> Price seemed to be about same as Dodge Grand equivalent.
>
> Dont Like
> A/C is wimpy.....long time for air to get cold and cool down cab.
> Not many inside amenities.....passenger controlled air etc.
> Doors dont lock automatically when start driving.
> No leather on steering wheel.
> Turn ratio to large of steering wheel ....To much steering wheel turn for
> radius
> Parking Brake doesnt retract automatically when put in drive.
> Side doors dont open if transmission no in park.
> Seats not great....need more support on sides of legs..too too flat seat.
> Center fold down table...would like console.
> Cup holders in dash are not adjustable for large cups.
> No data display:
> No outside air temp measurement,
> No mileage, No compass,
> what is full auto vs auto on climate control?
>
> Like to hear you thoughts.
> What $ can I get for a Odyssey with 1200 miles on it?
>
> Thanks
>
>