Honda Car Forum

>The nice thing about Hertz was that I could review the
>maintenance record ... that's how I knew it hadn't been in accident,
>hadn't had any major repairs, and had been all over the country
>(record of oil changes!).

How would a maintenance record show whether its been in an accident or not?
I've been in two major accidents and none of it appears in any record at the
dealership, because I didn't fix it there.

>
>I bought a $20K car for about $15, and never regretted the purchase
>for a minute.

Brand new Camrys are selling at as much as $7K off. Why da hell would anyone
buy a used crap now.


>Good way to go in my opinion. BTW, it's even better for domestic cars
>if you're in to those (I'm not) since they depreciate so much in the
>first year. I think you can get a one year old Taurus or Sable for
>about $12K. If you like that car, it's a heck of a deal.
>

Domestic cars aren't the only ones. I've seen numerous dealers selling $16K
Corollas, Sentras, and Lancers for under $10K!!!!!!!!!



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On 14 Jul 2003 22:38:09 GMT, drpimpdadi@cs.com4SARS (DrPimpDadi)
wrote:

>>The nice thing about Hertz was that I could review the
>>maintenance record ... that's how I knew it hadn't been in accident,
>>hadn't had any major repairs, and had been all over the country
>>(record of oil changes!).
>
>How would a maintenance record show whether its been in an accident or not?
>I've been in two major accidents and none of it appears in any record at the
>dealership, because I didn't fix it there.

Because it's their record of the car, not a dealer's record of
maintenance. That's the point. Of course it wouldn't appear on the
dealer record. Duh.

>>
>>I bought a $20K car for about $15, and never regretted the purchase
>>for a minute.
>
>Brand new Camrys are selling at as much as $7K off. Why da hell would anyone
>buy a used crap now.

Another duh. Of course no one would buy a used car for the same price
as a new one. And why do you paint all used cars as crap? So you buy
a new one, and the minute you drive it off the lot it is crap? So you
quickly turn around and buy another one to get rid of that used crap?

I always love hearing in these news groups about selling prices of
cars. $22K Camrys are not selling for $15K.

>>Good way to go in my opinion. BTW, it's even better for domestic cars
>>if you're in to those (I'm not) since they depreciate so much in the
>>first year. I think you can get a one year old Taurus or Sable for
>>about $12K. If you like that car, it's a heck of a deal.
>>
>
>Domestic cars aren't the only ones. I've seen numerous dealers selling $16K
>Corollas, Sentras, and Lancers for under $10K!!!!!!!!!
>

That's true and kind of makes my point, doesn't it. If a well-equiped
new Corolla had a purchase price of $16K, but you could pick up a one
year old for less than $10K, that'd be a good deal in my book.

Now that I'm going through it, I guess I can't figure what your point
is. I thought it was that you should buy a new one, but then you make
a good case to buy a used one.

>Because it's their record of the car, not a dealer's record of
>maintenance. That's the point. Of course it wouldn't appear on the
>dealer record. Duh.

What da hell are you talking about. There is no national data that keeps track
of a car's history. There is no internal computer that keeps track of
everything that's happened to your car. They know the maintenance record
because it's been tracked either at the dealerships or by their service
technicians. How do you figure an accident will appear on the record if the
previous owner went to a cheap repair shop? They won't! Since Hertz and other
rental places take trade-ins, you're taking a bigger risk than purchasing a
brand new car.



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>>>I bought a $20K car for about $15, and never regretted the purchase
>>>for a minute.
>>
>>Brand new Camrys are selling at as much as $7K off. Why da hell would anyone
>>buy a used crap now.
>
>Another duh. Of course no one would buy a used car for the same price
>as a new one. And why do you paint all used cars as crap? So you buy
>a new one, and the minute you drive it off the lot it is crap? So you
>quickly turn around and buy another one to get rid of that used crap?

You're stupid.


>
>I always love hearing in these news groups about selling prices of
>cars. $22K Camrys are not selling for $15K.

Well, Camry LE automatics are selling as low as $13,900. I believe their MSRP
is around $21K.


>
>>>Good way to go in my opinion. BTW, it's even better for domestic cars
>>>if you're in to those (I'm not) since they depreciate so much in the
>>>first year. I think you can get a one year old Taurus or Sable for
>>>about $12K. If you like that car, it's a heck of a deal.
>>>
>>
>>Domestic cars aren't the only ones. I've seen numerous dealers selling $16K
>>Corollas, Sentras, and Lancers for under $10K!!!!!!!!!
>>
>
>That's true and kind of makes my point, doesn't it. If a well-equiped
>new Corolla had a purchase price of $16K, but you could pick up a one
>year old for less than $10K, that'd be a good deal in my book.

You're stupid. How is a 1 year old Corolla with 20,000 miles a better value
than a brand new one with 20 miles at the same price?


>
>Now that I'm going through it, I guess I can't figure what your point
>is. I thought it was that you should buy a new one, but then you make
>a good case to buy a used one.
>

You're really stupid.



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On 14 Jul 2003 23:43:45 GMT, drpimpdadi@cs.com4SARS (DrPimpDadi)
wrote:

>>Because it's their record of the car, not a dealer's record of
>>maintenance. That's the point. Of course it wouldn't appear on the
>>dealer record. Duh.
>
>What da hell are you talking about. There is no national data that keeps track
>of a car's history. There is no internal computer that keeps track of
>everything that's happened to your car. They know the maintenance record
>because it's been tracked either at the dealerships or by their service
>technicians. How do you figure an accident will appear on the record if the
>previous owner went to a cheap repair shop? They won't! Since Hertz and other
>rental places take trade-ins, you're taking a bigger risk than purchasing a
>brand new car.

You seem to have missed the point that he bought the car from HERTZ, a
rental car agency. They have complete records on their cars. They
use it as a selling point.

>You seem to have missed the point that he bought the car from HERTZ, a
>rental car agency. They have complete records on their cars. They
>use it as a selling point.
>

I understand what he is saying. They service their own cars so they have the
records. But, what I'm saying is, rental cars are frequently abused and get in
to accidents. Does Hertz disclose these informations to buyers? I doubt it.
What about the trade-in's they sell?



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Yes, that's exactly what they do. In fact, as I understand it (from
multiple sources), the auction the cars that have been in accidents
rather than sell them directly. And they don't take trade-ins. If you
choose to believe otherwise, I can't change that. I can only relate my
personal experience actually buying a car from them and looking
through the records of multiple cars on their lot.

On 15 Jul 2003 01:43:41 GMT, drpimpdadi@cs.com4SARS (DrPimpDadi)
wrote:

>>You seem to have missed the point that he bought the car from HERTZ, a
>>rental car agency. They have complete records on their cars. They
>>use it as a selling point.
>>
>
>I understand what he is saying. They service their own cars so they have the
>records. But, what I'm saying is, rental cars are frequently abused and get in
>to accidents. Does Hertz disclose these informations to buyers? I doubt it.
>What about the trade-in's they sell?
>
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>Yes, that's exactly what they do. In fact, as I understand it (from
>multiple sources), the auction the cars that have been in accidents
>rather than sell them directly. And they don't take trade-ins. If you
>choose to believe otherwise, I can't change that. I can only relate my
>personal experience actually buying a car from them and looking
>through the records of multiple cars on their lot.
>

Still doesn't change the fact that all their cars were abused by hundreds of
renters. Not to mention their limited 1 yr warranty, compared to at least 3 for
new cars. If you wanna pay the same amount for an abused car that costs as much
as a new one, then you that's your choice.... as dumb as it may be.

Why the hell did you buy a car from a rental company? Are you out of your
mind dude? Don't you know all rental cars are abused?

<TL> wrote in message news:u737hv4l3bnrr6efs5l8gj2b7aue7h44po@4ax.com...
> Well, I guess despite the facts, you'll stick to your position... as
> you say, dumb as it may be. You see you're talking theory based on
> your opinions with no facts whatsoever. I've actually purchased one of
> their cars and owned it for seven years. It did have a one year
> warranty in addition to what was covered under the remaining factory
> warranty ... just like your one year old car. Not everyone who rents
> cars abuses them. I rent cars all the time and drive them just like I
> drive my own.
>
> I really don't care if you think it is a good idea to buy a used car.
> In your world there are those who buy new cars and complete idiots.
> Why can't anyone but you have a valid opinion? Apparently no one
> disagrees with you, they're just wrong. Talk about dumb. Get a life.
>
> On 15 Jul 2003 03:06:30 GMT, drpimpdadi@cs.com4SARS (DrPimpDadi)
> wrote:
>
> >>Yes, that's exactly what they do. In fact, as I understand it (from
> >>multiple sources), the auction the cars that have been in accidents
> >>rather than sell them directly. And they don't take trade-ins. If you
> >>choose to believe otherwise, I can't change that. I can only relate my
> >>personal experience actually buying a car from them and looking
> >>through the records of multiple cars on their lot.
> >>
> >
> >Still doesn't change the fact that all their cars were abused by hundreds
of
> >renters. Not to mention their limited 1 yr warranty, compared to at least
3 for
> >new cars. If you wanna pay the same amount for an abused car that costs
as much
> >as a new one, then you that's your choice.... as dumb as it may be.
> >
>

I guess I was just lucky. I guess my positive experience and those of
several other people I know who have purchased these cars is the
result of luck, picking the 5-6 cars out of millions that weren't
abused in ways that affected their performance or longevity.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:09:59 -0500, "cell" <cell@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Why the hell did you buy a car from a rental company? Are you out of your
>mind dude? Don't you know all rental cars are abused?
>
><TL> wrote in message news:u737hv4l3bnrr6efs5l8gj2b7aue7h44po@4ax.com...
>> Well, I guess despite the facts, you'll stick to your position... as
>> you say, dumb as it may be. You see you're talking theory based on
>> your opinions with no facts whatsoever. I've actually purchased one of
>> their cars and owned it for seven years. It did have a one year
>> warranty in addition to what was covered under the remaining factory
>> warranty ... just like your one year old car. Not everyone who rents
>> cars abuses them. I rent cars all the time and drive them just like I
>> drive my own.
>>
>> I really don't care if you think it is a good idea to buy a used car.
>> In your world there are those who buy new cars and complete idiots.
>> Why can't anyone but you have a valid opinion? Apparently no one
>> disagrees with you, they're just wrong. Talk about dumb. Get a life.
>>
>> On 15 Jul 2003 03:06:30 GMT, drpimpdadi@cs.com4SARS (DrPimpDadi)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>Yes, that's exactly what they do. In fact, as I understand it (from
>> >>multiple sources), the auction the cars that have been in accidents
>> >>rather than sell them directly. And they don't take trade-ins. If you
>> >>choose to believe otherwise, I can't change that. I can only relate my
>> >>personal experience actually buying a car from them and looking
>> >>through the records of multiple cars on their lot.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Still doesn't change the fact that all their cars were abused by hundreds
>of
>> >renters. Not to mention their limited 1 yr warranty, compared to at least
>3 for
>> >new cars. If you wanna pay the same amount for an abused car that costs
>as much
>> >as a new one, then you that's your choice.... as dumb as it may be.
>> >
>>
>

If I were you i would buy a car from a lady because as we know ladies drive
more conservative than men. And they don't abuse their cars at least. If
the car looks good inside and out, engine runs smooth and tranny shifts
smooth then i am satisfied. Of course i am talking about 2-3 year old cars
at most. When cars get older harder to find a good one. Personally i would
never ever buy a car from a rental company because a close friend of mine
did and after couple of months he was extremely unhappy about the purchase
he made.


"TL" <tlehman@visi.com> wrote in message
news:9g38hvo144pnm55dsj3d85pfep6a68g588@4ax.com...
> I guess I was just lucky. I guess my positive experience and those of
> several other people I know who have purchased these cars is the
> result of luck, picking the 5-6 cars out of millions that weren't
> abused in ways that affected their performance or longevity.
>
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:09:59 -0500, "cell" <cell@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Why the hell did you buy a car from a rental company? Are you out of
your
> >mind dude? Don't you know all rental cars are abused?
> >
> ><TL> wrote in message news:u737hv4l3bnrr6efs5l8gj2b7aue7h44po@4ax.com...
> >> Well, I guess despite the facts, you'll stick to your position... as
> >> you say, dumb as it may be. You see you're talking theory based on
> >> your opinions with no facts whatsoever. I've actually purchased one of
> >> their cars and owned it for seven years. It did have a one year
> >> warranty in addition to what was covered under the remaining factory
> >> warranty ... just like your one year old car. Not everyone who rents
> >> cars abuses them. I rent cars all the time and drive them just like I
> >> drive my own.
> >>
> >> I really don't care if you think it is a good idea to buy a used car.
> >> In your world there are those who buy new cars and complete idiots.
> >> Why can't anyone but you have a valid opinion? Apparently no one
> >> disagrees with you, they're just wrong. Talk about dumb. Get a life.
> >>
> >> On 15 Jul 2003 03:06:30 GMT, drpimpdadi@cs.com4SARS (DrPimpDadi)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>Yes, that's exactly what they do. In fact, as I understand it (from
> >> >>multiple sources), the auction the cars that have been in accidents
> >> >>rather than sell them directly. And they don't take trade-ins. If you
> >> >>choose to believe otherwise, I can't change that. I can only relate
my
> >> >>personal experience actually buying a car from them and looking
> >> >>through the records of multiple cars on their lot.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Still doesn't change the fact that all their cars were abused by
hundreds
> >of
> >> >renters. Not to mention their limited 1 yr warranty, compared to at
least
> >3 for
> >> >new cars. If you wanna pay the same amount for an abused car that
costs
> >as much
> >> >as a new one, then you that's your choice.... as dumb as it may be.
> >> >
> >>
> >
>