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Old 11 Jul 2003, 07:43 pm
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Default would you buy Hail Damaged?

according to an ad, a brand new hail damaged car is being sold at $8000 off
MSRP. It normally sells for $3000 off. I have no idea what hail damaged
vehicles look like. Are they worth it? How much to fix such a damage?


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Old 11 Jul 2003, 10:10 pm
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In article <20030711204316.02840.00000160@mb-m27.news.cs.com>,
happynappygory@cs.com (Happynappygory) wrote:

> according to an ad, a brand new hail damaged car is being sold at $8000 off
> MSRP. It normally sells for $3000 off. I have no idea what hail damaged
> vehicles look like. Are they worth it? How much to fix such a damage?
>
>


There is no "what hail damaged vehicles look like". They'll all be
different. It's up to you, on a car by car basis, to determine whether
the price you pay is enough to offset whatever damage a car has.

It could be a perfectly fine deal.

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Old 11 Jul 2003, 11:45 pm
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It would be the best if the car could be repaired without repainting....If
you need to repaint, you risk the chance of bad color matching (If you're
like me that's the first thing you'll notice when you look at your car).
Also, if they have to disassemble the car's interior to pop the dents, you
might notice more squeaks and noises later on. By the way, what is the car?



"Happynappygory" <happynappygory@cs.com> wrote in message
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> according to an ad, a brand new hail damaged car is being sold at $8000

off
> MSRP. It normally sells for $3000 off. I have no idea what hail damaged
> vehicles look like. Are they worth it? How much to fix such a damage?
>
>



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Old 12 Jul 2003, 07:47 am
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Default Re: would you buy Hail Damaged?

As others have said, the condition of a hail damaged car can vary
tremendously. I purchased a hail damaged Dodge Caravan in 1989. They'd
replaced the hood, so the only real area was the roof which is high on
the van. The dealer also agreed to install a luggage rack that
included rubber strips that hid even more of the damage. I noticed it
a lot the first month or so, and then never thought about it again.
However, if it were on the top of a car roof which is prominent every
time you approach the car, it might bother me more. It's all just your
reactions / taste.

I think it also matters if you plan to keep the car forever or trade
it in in a few years. The former, of course, you save the money since
by the time you do part with the car, something like hail damage will
have little impact on the value. However, if you plan to keep the car
only a few years, I would think the hail damage would depress the
resale value a lot meaning that you really didn't save as much as you
thought with the original discount.



On 12 Jul 2003 00:43:16 GMT, happynappygory@cs.com (Happynappygory)
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>according to an ad, a brand new hail damaged car is being sold at $8000 off
>MSRP. It normally sells for $3000 off. I have no idea what hail damaged
>vehicles look like. Are they worth it? How much to fix such a damage?
>


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Old 12 Jul 2003, 09:23 am
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In 1999 we had a hail storm to end all hail storms. Thousands of
roofs had to replaced, and thousands of autos were damaged. Both of
ours were out 15 minutes before it started. We were very lucky.
These dents in cars could be seen 100 feet away. Serious damage.
Insurance adjusters came from around the country and set up tents to
evaluate car damage. Also a number of dentless paint repair shops set
up on every corner. This process is amazing. In most cases, you
can't tell anything ever happened. And the price was reasonable. If
I could get a great price on a hail damaged car, I wouldn't hesitate
knowing what I do now.

Dick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 07:46:56 GMT, SP@M.com (Bebop) wrote:

>Happynappygory <happynappygory@cs.com> wrote:
>
>> according to an ad, a brand new hail damaged car is being sold at $8000 off
>> MSRP. It normally sells for $3000 off. I have no idea what hail damaged
>> vehicles look like. Are they worth it? How much to fix such a damage?

>
>
>It looks like the surface of a golf ball. I have a brand new 91 Civic
>that was damaged by hail few months later. The repair was $3K+, took the
>check and never repaired it. You will not notice it until up close.
>After 10+ years, the damaged surface never rusted nor the paint peeled
>away.


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Old 12 Jul 2003, 10:59 am
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SP@M.com (Bebop) wrote in news:1fxyovp.oumlrjeol1viN%SP@M.com:

> Happynappygory <happynappygory@cs.com> wrote:
>
>> according to an ad, a brand new hail damaged car is being sold at
>> $8000 off MSRP. It normally sells for $3000 off. I have no idea what
>> hail damaged vehicles look like. Are they worth it? How much to fix
>> such a damage?

>
>
> It looks like the surface of a golf ball. I have a brand new 91 Civic
> that was damaged by hail few months later. The repair was $3K+, took
> the check and never repaired it. You will not notice it until up
> close. After 10+ years, the damaged surface never rusted nor the paint
> peeled away.


Does it 'drive' straight or do you find it 'hooks' sometimes....
(Sorry, couldn't resist it)

Alex Devlin
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Old 12 Jul 2003, 12:04 pm
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In article <xfWPa.16502$o86.2683@news1.central.cox.net>, Alex Devlin <Alex@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>SP@M.com (Bebop) wrote in news:1fxyovp.oumlrjeol1viN%SP@M.com:
>
>> Happynappygory <happynappygory@cs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> according to an ad, a brand new hail damaged car is being sold at
>>> $8000 off MSRP. It normally sells for $3000 off. I have no idea what
>>> hail damaged vehicles look like. Are they worth it? How much to fix
>>> such a damage?

>>
>>
>> It looks like the surface of a golf ball. I have a brand new 91 Civic
>> that was damaged by hail few months later. The repair was $3K+, took
>> the check and never repaired it. You will not notice it until up
>> close. After 10+ years, the damaged surface never rusted nor the paint
>> peeled away.

>
>Does it 'drive' straight or do you find it 'hooks' sometimes....
>(Sorry, couldn't resist it)
>
>Alex Devlin


Golf balls are dimpled for a reason - to fly further and
straighter - so perhaps a fuel consumption test is due.

Depending on the car, it might be a great deal - I assume
the top surfaces (hood, roof, trunk) are the worse off. The hood
and trunk can be replaced (perhaps more economically than
PDR). What kind of car is it?

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Old 12 Jul 2003, 01:19 pm
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"Uncle Mike" <me@homeoffice.com> wrote in message
news:TcXPa.11240$Ag6.1027186@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> In article <xfWPa.16502$o86.2683@news1.central.cox.net>, Alex Devlin

<Alex@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >SP@M.com (Bebop) wrote in news:1fxyovp.oumlrjeol1viN%SP@M.com:
> >
> >> Happynappygory <happynappygory@cs.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> according to an ad, a brand new hail damaged car is being sold at
> >>> $8000 off MSRP. It normally sells for $3000 off. I have no idea what
> >>> hail damaged vehicles look like. Are they worth it? How much to fix
> >>> such a damage?
> >>
> >>
> >> It looks like the surface of a golf ball. I have a brand new 91 Civic
> >> that was damaged by hail few months later. The repair was $3K+, took
> >> the check and never repaired it. You will not notice it until up
> >> close. After 10+ years, the damaged surface never rusted nor the paint
> >> peeled away.

> >
> >Does it 'drive' straight or do you find it 'hooks' sometimes....
> >(Sorry, couldn't resist it)
> >
> >Alex Devlin

>
> Golf balls are dimpled for a reason - to fly further and
> straighter - so perhaps a fuel consumption test is due.


The reason that the dimples allow the golf ball to fly further is that they
allow the backspin of the ball to catch the airstream around the ball,
moving the stagnation point (the place where the airstream splits) lower on
the ball which creates aerodynamic lift on the ball. When viewed from the
side, the path of the ball is considerably flattened from the normal
parabola, which allows the ball to stay in the air longer and fly further.

To apply the same effect to a car, the car would have to be round and have
considerable backspin!

> Depending on the car, it might be a great deal - I assume
> the top surfaces (hood, roof, trunk) are the worse off. The hood
> and trunk can be replaced (perhaps more economically than
> PDR). What kind of car is it?


If you don't care too much about the looks, but just intend to drive the car
for its entire life, it might be a deal. Fresh everything, and the dimples
make it less attractive to steal. You also don't have to worry about the
dreaded "first ding"!

George


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Old 12 Jul 2003, 02:10 pm
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>By the way, what is the car?
>


'03 Nissan Altima.


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Old 12 Jul 2003, 02:11 pm
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>Depending on the car, it might be a great deal - I assume
>the top surfaces (hood, roof, trunk) are the worse off. The hood
>and trunk can be replaced (perhaps more economically than
>PDR). What kind of car is it?
>


'03 Nissan Altima


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