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Old 11 Jul 2003, 03:58 pm
GI Hoe
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Default Were Honda Civics ever sold with an air cooled engine?

I seem to remember my mom owning an air cooled Honda Civic in the
early 80's. Is this possible or am I confused. Were there _ever_ any
air cooled Honda Cars sold in North America?

Anywhere in the world?

Thanks,

Ralek Blok.
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Don't laugh. I'm Danish.
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Old 11 Jul 2003, 05:00 pm
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Default Re: Were Honda Civics ever sold with an air cooled engine?

S600 was air cooled.

GI Hoe wrote:

> I seem to remember my mom owning an air cooled Honda Civic in the
> early 80's. Is this possible or am I confused. Were there _ever_ any
> air cooled Honda Cars sold in North America?
>
> Anywhere in the world?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ralek Blok.
> --
> Don't laugh. I'm Danish.


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Old 11 Jul 2003, 05:15 pm
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Default Re: Were Honda Civics ever sold with an air cooled engine?

Were these the minicars with the little12- or 13-inch wheels that were
produced in the 1970s?

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:34:47 GMT, "Mike Dennis" <mapson@woh.rr.com>
wrote:

>There were no air-cooled Civics. Only the very first Honda's were that way.
>Mr. Honda wanted to contnue using air-cooled engines in later designs but
>lost out his own engineers, who convinced him that air cooling could not
>remove enough heat from engines with the power-to-weight ratios they were
>planning at the time--an argument based on sound thermodynamic principles,
>IMHO.
>
>Mr. Honda was a very strong-willed person, but he believed more in the
>"Honda Way" than his own technical prowess. If someone had a better and
>could back it up, he listened.
>
>
>
>"GI Hoe" <ralek_blok@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>news:9be3766a.0307111258.5945009b@posting.google. com...
>> I seem to remember my mom owning an air cooled Honda Civic in the
>> early 80's. Is this possible or am I confused. Were there _ever_ any
>> air cooled Honda Cars sold in North America?
>>
>> Anywhere in the world?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ralek Blok.
>> --
>> Don't laugh. I'm Danish.

>


Ron
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Old 11 Jul 2003, 09:39 pm
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Default Re: Were Honda Civics ever sold with an air cooled engine?

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:15:28 GMT, Milleron
<millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote:

>Were these the minicars with the little12- or 13-inch wheels that were
>produced in the 1970s?


They had 10 inch wheels I believe and were sold in the US until 1972.
The first Civics were introduced in 1973 with 12 inch wheels.


>
>On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:34:47 GMT, "Mike Dennis" <mapson@woh.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>There were no air-cooled Civics. Only the very first Honda's were that way.
>>Mr. Honda wanted to contnue using air-cooled engines in later designs but
>>lost out his own engineers, who convinced him that air cooling could not
>>remove enough heat from engines with the power-to-weight ratios they were
>>planning at the time--an argument based on sound thermodynamic principles,
>>IMHO.
>>
>>Mr. Honda was a very strong-willed person, but he believed more in the
>>"Honda Way" than his own technical prowess. If someone had a better and
>>could back it up, he listened.
>>
>>
>>
>>"GI Hoe" <ralek_blok@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>>news:9be3766a.0307111258.5945009b@posting.google .com...
>>> I seem to remember my mom owning an air cooled Honda Civic in the
>>> early 80's. Is this possible or am I confused. Were there _ever_ any
>>> air cooled Honda Cars sold in North America?
>>>
>>> Anywhere in the world?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ralek Blok.
>>> --
>>> Don't laugh. I'm Danish.

>>

>
>Ron


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Old 12 Jul 2003, 12:44 pm
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Default Re: Were Honda Civics ever sold with an air cooled engine?

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:39:06 -0500, gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com
(Gordon McGrew) wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:15:28 GMT, Milleron
><millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote:
>
>>Were these the minicars with the little12- or 13-inch wheels that were
>>produced in the 1970s?

>
>They had 10 inch wheels I believe and were sold in the US until 1972.
>The first Civics were introduced in 1973 with 12 inch wheels.


OK, I remember that they were really small. Reminded me of enclosed
go-karts.
Thanks for that trip down memory lane

>
>
>>
>>On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:34:47 GMT, "Mike Dennis" <mapson@woh.rr.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>There were no air-cooled Civics. Only the very first Honda's were that way.
>>>Mr. Honda wanted to contnue using air-cooled engines in later designs but
>>>lost out his own engineers, who convinced him that air cooling could not
>>>remove enough heat from engines with the power-to-weight ratios they were
>>>planning at the time--an argument based on sound thermodynamic principles,
>>>IMHO.
>>>
>>>Mr. Honda was a very strong-willed person, but he believed more in the
>>>"Honda Way" than his own technical prowess. If someone had a better and
>>>could back it up, he listened.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"GI Hoe" <ralek_blok@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:9be3766a.0307111258.5945009b@posting.googl e.com...
>>>> I seem to remember my mom owning an air cooled Honda Civic in the
>>>> early 80's. Is this possible or am I confused. Were there _ever_ any
>>>> air cooled Honda Cars sold in North America?
>>>>
>>>> Anywhere in the world?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ralek Blok.
>>>> --
>>>> Don't laugh. I'm Danish.
>>>

>>
>>Ron


Ron
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Old 12 Jul 2003, 01:19 pm
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"Milleron" <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:39:06 -0500, gRmEcMgOrVeEw@mindspring.com
> (Gordon McGrew) wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:15:28 GMT, Milleron
> ><millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>Were these the minicars with the little12- or 13-inch wheels that were
> >>produced in the 1970s?

> >
> >They had 10 inch wheels I believe and were sold in the US until 1972.
> >The first Civics were introduced in 1973 with 12 inch wheels.

>
> OK, I remember that they were really small. Reminded me of enclosed
> go-karts.
> Thanks for that trip down memory lane


Yes, I think that they were the S600 sedan and the AN600 coupe. They were
punched-out versions of the 360cc minicars sold in Japan.

They were quite popular as "dinghys" to tow behind motorhomes. Some
motorhome folks even had hitches made that lifted the front wheels off the
ground and towed only on the rear wheels, so there was no wear on the
drivetrain and no miles registered on the odometer.

George


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Old 12 Jul 2003, 02:23 pm
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"GI Hoe" <ralek_blok@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:9be3766a.0307111258.5945009b@posting.google.c om...
> I seem to remember my mom owning an air cooled Honda Civic in the
> early 80's. Is this possible or am I confused. Were there _ever_ any
> air cooled Honda Cars sold in North America?


IIRC, it was the z600, with a 600 cc engine, and the current rally-style
shifter coming from the dash. saw one at a junkyard a year or so ago.

did it look like this?

http://www.velocityjrnl.com/ip/org/202.html


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Old 13 Jul 2003, 08:41 am
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"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<reZPa.43815$sY2.19407@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att. net>...
> "GI Hoe" <ralek_blok@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:9be3766a.0307111258.5945009b@posting.google.c om...
> > I seem to remember my mom owning an air cooled Honda Civic in the
> > early 80's. Is this possible or am I confused. Were there _ever_ any
> > air cooled Honda Cars sold in North America?

>
> IIRC, it was the z600, with a 600 cc engine, and the current rally-style
> shifter coming from the dash. saw one at a junkyard a year or so ago.
>
> did it look like this?
>
> http://www.velocityjrnl.com/ip/org/202.html


No, but holy crow that's a cool little car.

No, I think my mom was driving around in an 1980 honda civic talking
about how she _used_ to own an air cooled Honda car back in the early
70's.

Thanks, r.a.m.h

Ciao.

RB
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Old 14 Jul 2003, 10:43 pm
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Well, if you interpret "air cooled" as "covertible" might your mother
been driving one of these?

http://members.lycos.nl/hendrik/s800/gallery.htm

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