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Old 11 Sep 2011, 08:42 pm
Dan Wenz
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Default Need New Key, 2011 Fit

I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
Sep. 12.
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Old 12 Sep 2011, 05:35 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: Need New Key, 2011 Fit

In article <j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me>, Dan Wenz <djwenz@verizon.net>
wrote:

> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
> Sep. 12.


yikes.

Ummm, the keys have to know how to talk to the immobilizer. Typically,
when you get a new key, the dealer cuts it and then copies the
immobilizer info over from the old key.

If there's no old key to copy the immobilizer info from....yikes. In
the past, they've claimed that you need a whole new computer. I doubt
that's really true, but some dealerships will do that. If yours does,
tell them to HOLD ON until you've gone to great lengths to confirm that
(or not, hopefully).
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Old 12 Sep 2011, 07:35 am
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Default Re: Need New Key, 2011 Fit

On 9/12/2011 5:35 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> yikes.
>
> Ummm, the keys have to know how to talk to the immobilizer. Typically,
> when you get a new key, the dealer cuts it and then copies the
> immobilizer info over from the old key.
>
> If there's no old key to copy the immobilizer info from....yikes. In
> the past, they've claimed that you need a whole new computer. I doubt
> that's really true, but some dealerships will do that. If yours does,
> tell them to HOLD ON until you've gone to great lengths to confirm that
> (or not, hopefully).


Yikes indeed :-(
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Old 12 Sep 2011, 07:45 pm
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"Dan Wenz" <djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:j4kqpc$77n$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/12/2011 5:35 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>> yikes.
>>
>> Ummm, the keys have to know how to talk to the immobilizer.
>> Typically,
>> when you get a new key, the dealer cuts it and then copies the
>> immobilizer info over from the old key.
>>
>> If there's no old key to copy the immobilizer info from....yikes.
>> In
>> the past, they've claimed that you need a whole new computer. I
>> doubt
>> that's really true, but some dealerships will do that. If yours
>> does,
>> tell them to HOLD ON until you've gone to great lengths to confirm
>> that
>> (or not, hopefully).

>
> Yikes indeed :-(


You can get a key with the vin from a dealer...just be prepared to pay
a handsome sum.


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Old 12 Sep 2011, 07:50 pm
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Default Re: Need New Key, 2011 Fit

Dan Wenz <djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:

> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
> Sep. 12.




Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
driven to the dealership.

The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!

--
Tegger
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Old 13 Sep 2011, 05:37 am
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Default Re: Need New Key, 2011 Fit

In article <Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@example.com> wrote:

> Dan Wenz <djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>
> > I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
> > whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
> > need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
> > Sep. 12.

>
>
>
> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
> driven to the dealership.
>
> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!


I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key
(it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
on your source.

One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.

This works even if you've lost both your keys.

But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.

Thank goodness for the internet...
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Old 13 Sep 2011, 07:13 am
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Default Re: Need New Key, 2011 Fit

On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<Xns9F5EC989C907tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger<invalid@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
>>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
>>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
>>> Sep. 12.

>>
>>
>>
>> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
>> driven to the dealership.
>>
>> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!

>
> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key
> (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
> slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
> on your source.
>
> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
>
> This works even if you've lost both your keys.
>
> But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
> or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
> needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
>
> Thank goodness for the internet...



Care to share?

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Old 13 Sep 2011, 01:13 pm
Dan Wenz
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Default Re: Need New Key, 2011 Fit

On 9/12/2011 7:45 PM, Stewart wrote:

>
> You can get a key with the vin from a dealer...just be prepared to pay
> a handsome sum.
>
>


I did, about $55, but in the absence of the car, the key will allow
entrance, but not start the engine. I will still need a tow.
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Old 13 Sep 2011, 01:15 pm
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Default Re: Need New Key, 2011 Fit

On 9/12/2011 7:50 PM, Tegger wrote:
> Dan Wenz<djwenz@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
>> whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
>> need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
>> Sep. 12.

>
>
>
> Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
> driven to the dealership.
>
> The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!


That option wasn't mentioned by the parts guy, and I have no keys
available other than the new one(s) I bought a day ago from the Honda
service department, allowing access but not an engine start.
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Old 13 Sep 2011, 01:17 pm
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Default Re: Need New Key, 2011 Fit

On 9/13/2011 1:13 PM, Dan Wenz wrote:
> On 9/12/2011 7:45 PM, Stewart wrote:
>
>>
>> You can get a key with the vin from a dealer...just be prepared to pay
>> a handsome sum.
>>
>>

>
> I did, about $55, but in the absence of the car, the key will allow
> entrance, but not start the engine. I will still need a tow.


Absence, that is, from Honda's service dept.:-)
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