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Old 29 May 2005, 05:58 am
Runge
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Hi all,
I'm a complete ignorant about automatic gear
Is it normal you have to press on the brake pedal in order to shift
automatic gears positions on a Honda Accord ?
thanks a lot


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Old 29 May 2005, 06:28 am
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"Runge" <philsa@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> I'm a complete ignorant about automatic gear
> Is it normal you have to press on the brake pedal in order to shift
> automatic gears positions on a Honda Accord ?
> thanks a lot


If you're speaking of moving from the Park position to any other gear (or
into Park), then the answer is yes. For the most part, all vehicles have
that safety feature. The same as most manual shift vehicles have switches on
the clutch, to prevent the vehicle from being started without the clutch
disengaged.

Brian


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Old 29 May 2005, 09:18 am
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Yes alot of cars(not only Honda's) are like that now.It is a safety feature.
"Runge" <philsa@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> I'm a complete ignorant about automatic gear
> Is it normal you have to press on the brake pedal in order to shift
> automatic gears positions on a Honda Accord ?
> thanks a lot
>
>



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Old 29 May 2005, 10:12 am
Michael Pardee
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"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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>
> "Runge" <philsa@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:4299a047$0$817$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> Hi all,
>> I'm a complete ignorant about automatic gear
>> Is it normal you have to press on the brake pedal in order to shift
>> automatic gears positions on a Honda Accord ?
>> thanks a lot

>
> If you're speaking of moving from the Park position to any other gear (or
> into Park), then the answer is yes. For the most part, all vehicles have
> that safety feature. The same as most manual shift vehicles have switches
> on the clutch, to prevent the vehicle from being started without the
> clutch disengaged.
>
> Brian
>

I can't think of any auto tranny cars in recent years that don't have it.

Mike


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Old 29 May 2005, 12:20 pm
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 11:28:53 GMT, "Brian Smith"
<Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

> The same as most manual shift vehicles have switches on
>the clutch, to prevent the vehicle from being started without the clutch
>disengaged.


I hate that ****ing thing - i disable it first chance i get.There are
times i've HAD to start it in gear 9you will even find reasons given
in the UK highway code)As far as i can tell, thats an american only
'feature' - perhaps better drivers education ni the proper method of
driving a MT car would be more appropriate.

>
>Brian
>


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Old 29 May 2005, 02:14 pm
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OK Thanks a lot!!!

"Pascal" <comp_uter2002@videotron.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Yes alot of cars(not only Honda's) are like that now.It is a safety
> feature.
> "Runge" <philsa@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:4299a047$0$817$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> Hi all,
>> I'm a complete ignorant about automatic gear
>> Is it normal you have to press on the brake pedal in order to shift
>> automatic gears positions on a Honda Accord ?
>> thanks a lot
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 29 May 2005, 03:18 pm
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K`Tetch wrote:
> On Sun, 29 May 2005 11:28:53 GMT, "Brian Smith"
> <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>
>
>>The same as most manual shift vehicles have switches on
>>the clutch, to prevent the vehicle from being started without the clutch
>>disengaged.

>
>
> I hate that ****ing thing - i disable it first chance i get.There are
> times i've HAD to start it in gear 9you will even find reasons given
> in the UK highway code)As far as i can tell, thats an american only
> 'feature' - perhaps better drivers education ni the proper method of
> driving a MT car would be more appropriate.


relax. the uk has nowhere /near/ the cold temps a lot of the u.s.
experiences. cranking a cold engine with a cold battery on top of cold
transmission oil is not a reliable way to start a car. making sure
users fully depress the clutch ensures the engine starts more quickly,
using less fuel, and more reliably. ok?

>
>
>>Brian
>>

>
>


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Old 29 May 2005, 03:38 pm
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> I can't think of any auto tranny cars in recent years that don't have it.


The same could be said of DRL, but we have an over abundance of people that
disconnect that safety feature. Just because a vehicle has it doesn't mean
the owners are smart enough to leave it connected. <g>

Brian


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Old 29 May 2005, 05:10 pm
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"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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> relax. the uk has nowhere /near/ the cold temps a lot of the u.s.
> experiences. cranking a cold engine with a cold battery on top of cold
> transmission oil is not a reliable way to start a car. making sure users
> fully depress the clutch ensures the engine starts more quickly, using
> less fuel, and more reliably. ok?
>

I've used the starter to crank a car out of traffic when the ignition got
wet. It can be a useful feature. I would worry about the ability to drive
the var to repair after the clutch cable broke (or the cylinder/s gave out)
but the switch is on the pedal in the cars I've looked at.

Mike


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Old 30 May 2005, 01:59 pm
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 13:18:05 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:

>K`Tetch wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 May 2005 11:28:53 GMT, "Brian Smith"
>> <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The same as most manual shift vehicles have switches on
>>>the clutch, to prevent the vehicle from being started without the clutch
>>>disengaged.

>>
>>
>> I hate that ****ing thing - i disable it first chance i get.There are
>> times i've HAD to start it in gear 9you will even find reasons given
>> in the UK highway code)As far as i can tell, thats an american only
>> 'feature' - perhaps better drivers education ni the proper method of
>> driving a MT car would be more appropriate.

>
>relax. the uk has nowhere /near/ the cold temps a lot of the u.s.
>experiences. cranking a cold engine with a cold battery on top of cold
>transmission oil is not a reliable way to start a car. making sure
>users fully depress the clutch ensures the engine starts more quickly,
>using less fuel, and more reliably. ok?


you don't get it. Who said that the car HAD to be started with the
clutch pedal untouched? I'm saying a switch that FORCES you to start
with the clutch down is Bad, not the actual starting with the clutch
depressed.

Also, note that whilst i said "the uk highway code gives instances"
I'm not saying the switch is only absent on UK cars. Indeed, my last
car in the UK is a asweedish import, It had no such switch either (so
its nothing to do with temp, since i KNOW it gets colder in sweeden
than in the US)

The switch is there for one reason - driver ineptitude.

>
>>
>>
>>>Brian
>>>

>>
>>


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