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Old 10 Sep 2010, 07:43 am
dgk
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Default 91 Accord missing a lug nut

The same Accord I just asked about whether it was worth keeping. I had
a flat fixed and the guy said that there were only three lug nuts -
sure enough, one of bolts is broken off halfway out. There's some rust
on the broken end so it must have happened earlier and I didin't
notice.

The guy says that it's safe to drive on but I'd rather not have the
front wheel fly off. So I need to bring it in to be fixed I would
think. What's this likely to cost?
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Old 10 Sep 2010, 10:52 am
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Default Re: 91 Accord missing a lug nut


"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:lq9k86dusgfh9g4taiu5e9gss9cn8jv39b@4ax.com...
> The same Accord I just asked about whether it was worth keeping. I had
> a flat fixed and the guy said that there were only three lug nuts -
> sure enough, one of bolts is broken off halfway out. There's some rust
> on the broken end so it must have happened earlier and I didin't
> notice.
>
> The guy says that it's safe to drive on but I'd rather not have the
> front wheel fly off. So I need to bring it in to be fixed I would
> think. What's this likely to cost?


You can drive for a bit with three nuts.
If you are mechanically inclined, you can purchase a new stud from any auto
parts store and with the use of a puller, press the old stud out.
Take a number of washers, and torque the nut on the new stud until seated.


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Old 10 Sep 2010, 11:37 am
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Default Re: 91 Accord missing a lug nut

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:52:21 -0500, "Iowna Uass" <iownauass@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:lq9k86dusgfh9g4taiu5e9gss9cn8jv39b@4ax.com.. .
>> The same Accord I just asked about whether it was worth keeping. I had
>> a flat fixed and the guy said that there were only three lug nuts -
>> sure enough, one of bolts is broken off halfway out. There's some rust
>> on the broken end so it must have happened earlier and I didin't
>> notice.
>>
>> The guy says that it's safe to drive on but I'd rather not have the
>> front wheel fly off. So I need to bring it in to be fixed I would
>> think. What's this likely to cost?

>
>You can drive for a bit with three nuts.
>If you are mechanically inclined, you can purchase a new stud from any auto
>parts store and with the use of a puller, press the old stud out.
>Take a number of washers, and torque the nut on the new stud until seated.
>


To me, everything looks like a nail. And, of course, I don't have a
puller. But it sounds like a pretty cheap fix so I'll ask around and
see if I can get it done cheap.
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Old 10 Sep 2010, 11:40 am
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Default Re: 91 Accord missing a lug nut

On 09/10/2010 08:52 AM, Iowna Uass wrote:
> "dgk"<dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:lq9k86dusgfh9g4taiu5e9gss9cn8jv39b@4ax.com...
>> The same Accord I just asked about whether it was worth keeping. I had
>> a flat fixed and the guy said that there were only three lug nuts -
>> sure enough, one of bolts is broken off halfway out. There's some rust
>> on the broken end so it must have happened earlier and I didin't
>> notice.
>>
>> The guy says that it's safe to drive on but I'd rather not have the
>> front wheel fly off. So I need to bring it in to be fixed I would
>> think. What's this likely to cost?

>
> You can drive for a bit with three nuts.


but that should only be as a "get you home", not long term.


> If you are mechanically inclined, you can purchase a new stud from any auto
> parts store and with the use of a puller, press the old stud out.
> Take a number of washers, and torque the nut on the new stud until seated.


indeed.


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Old 10 Sep 2010, 11:47 am
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Default Re: 91 Accord missing a lug nut

On 09/10/2010 09:37 AM, dgk wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:52:21 -0500, "Iowna Uass"<iownauass@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "dgk"<dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:lq9k86dusgfh9g4taiu5e9gss9cn8jv39b@4ax.com...
>>> The same Accord I just asked about whether it was worth keeping. I had
>>> a flat fixed and the guy said that there were only three lug nuts -
>>> sure enough, one of bolts is broken off halfway out. There's some rust
>>> on the broken end so it must have happened earlier and I didin't
>>> notice.
>>>
>>> The guy says that it's safe to drive on but I'd rather not have the
>>> front wheel fly off. So I need to bring it in to be fixed I would
>>> think. What's this likely to cost?

>>
>> You can drive for a bit with three nuts.
>> If you are mechanically inclined, you can purchase a new stud from any auto
>> parts store and with the use of a puller, press the old stud out.
>> Take a number of washers, and torque the nut on the new stud until seated.
>>

>
> To me, everything looks like a nail. And, of course, I don't have a
> puller. But it sounds like a pretty cheap fix so I'll ask around and
> see if I can get it done cheap.


the store where you buy the stud will almost certainly have a suitable
tool which they'll either loan for free or cheap so you can do it
yourself. do NOT go to the idiot that mis-diagnosed your brake problem
and ripped you for new rotors.


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Old 10 Sep 2010, 04:09 pm
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Default Re: 91 Accord missing a lug nut


It will take some skill to install a new lug nut on this car because you
will need to cut off some of the the stud to install it without moving
the hub as I can recall.


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Old 10 Sep 2010, 04:55 pm
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jim beam (me@privacy.net) writes:
> On 09/10/2010 09:37 AM, dgk wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:52:21 -0500, "Iowna Uass"<iownauass@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "dgk"<dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:lq9k86dusgfh9g4taiu5e9gss9cn8jv39b@4ax.com...
>>>> The same Accord I just asked about whether it was worth keeping. I had
>>>> a flat fixed and the guy said that there were only three lug nuts -
>>>> sure enough, one of bolts is broken off halfway out. There's some rust
>>>> on the broken end so it must have happened earlier and I didin't
>>>> notice.
>>>>
>>>> The guy says that it's safe to drive on but I'd rather not have the
>>>> front wheel fly off. So I need to bring it in to be fixed I would
>>>> think. What's this likely to cost?
>>>
>>> You can drive for a bit with three nuts.
>>> If you are mechanically inclined, you can purchase a new stud from any auto
>>> parts store and with the use of a puller, press the old stud out.
>>> Take a number of washers, and torque the nut on the new stud until seated.
>>>

>>
>> To me, everything looks like a nail. And, of course, I don't have a
>> puller. But it sounds like a pretty cheap fix so I'll ask around and
>> see if I can get it done cheap.

>
> the store where you buy the stud will almost certainly have a suitable
> tool which they'll either loan for free or cheap so you can do it
> yourself. do NOT go to the idiot that mis-diagnosed your brake problem
> and ripped you for new rotors.
>
>
> --
> nomina rutrum rutrum



If one wheel stud breaks... best practice is to replace all the studs
on that wheel. Not sure... but for large trucks in the Province of
Ontario, I think it's the law. I've always replaced all the studs. Why did
the wheel stud break? Was it over torqued at one time? Was the wheel
nut removed and it stressed the stud because the nut was seized? Have
the remaining studs been stressed because they have been carrying
more load? It's generally a inexpensive easy job to do. Replace all the
studs.



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Old 10 Sep 2010, 05:35 pm
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cf005@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (M.A. Stewart) wrote in
news:i6e9h7$ons$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:

> Why
> did the wheel stud break? Was it over torqued at one time?




That's the usual cause.



> Was the wheel nut removed and it stressed the stud because the nut was
> seized?




That's not a usual cause. Even very rusty nuts will eventually spin
loose with little stress on the stud.



> Have the remaining studs been stressed because they have been carrying
> more load? It's generally a inexpensive easy job to do. Replace all
> the studs.
>



Not on the '91 Accord. Replacement requires a hydraulic press even to be
able to remove the old stud.

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Old 10 Sep 2010, 06:13 pm
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Default Re: 91 Accord missing a lug nut

On 09/10/2010 02:09 PM, Airport Shuttle wrote:
> It will take some skill to install a new lug nut on this car because you
> will need to cut off some of the the stud to install it without moving
> the hub as I can recall.


shoulda bought the shop manual. you can remove the hub on the accord
without any drama or special presses - the bearing assembly unbolts from
the knuckle. from there, you can just punch out the broken stud and
replace it - no need to cut anything.


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Old 10 Sep 2010, 06:13 pm
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On 09/10/2010 03:35 PM, Tegger wrote:
> cf005@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (M.A. Stewart) wrote in
> news:i6e9h7$ons$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:
>
>> Why
>> did the wheel stud break? Was it over torqued at one time?

>
>
>
> That's the usual cause.
>
>
>
>> Was the wheel nut removed and it stressed the stud because the nut was
>> seized?

>
>
>
> That's not a usual cause. Even very rusty nuts will eventually spin
> loose with little stress on the stud.
>
>
>
>> Have the remaining studs been stressed because they have been carrying
>> more load? It's generally a inexpensive easy job to do. Replace all
>> the studs.
>>

>
>
> Not on the '91 Accord. Replacement requires a hydraulic press even to be
> able to remove the old stud.
>


i've done it by putting the hub in a vise and using a punch and hammer.
doesn't need an hydraulic press.


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