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Old 23 May 2005, 09:49 am
Henry Kolesnik
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Default Honda vs Toyota ??

It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired and
need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low cost
maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old also.
I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?

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73
Hank WD5JFR


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Old 23 May 2005, 10:35 am
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Default 2006 Pilot

I'm thinking about getting a new Pilot but I want the side curtain
airbags and the 2006 model might have them. Anyone know? When is the
2006 Pilot going to be available.

SG
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Old 23 May 2005, 01:39 pm
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Default Re: Honda vs Toyota ??

Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.





"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired

and
> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low

cost
> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old

also.
> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>
>



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Old 23 May 2005, 05:50 pm
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Audi, isn't that a Volkswagen, terrible reliability.

Tom


"ja" <__jame_sayton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
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>
>
> "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired

> and
>> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low

> cost
>> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old

> also.
>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73
>> Hank WD5JFR
>>
>>

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Old 23 May 2005, 06:56 pm
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On 2005-05-23 kolesnik@sbcglobal.net said:
>Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
>It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm
>retired and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are
>reliabliity, low cost maintenance and initial cost. I would
>consider a year or two year old also. I hear of Honda Civics going
>to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is better, the Accord or
>the Camry or did I miss one?
>--
>73
>Hank WD5JFR

Ny '85 Honda Civic wagon is still going strong at 282,956 mi.
Near-identical '84, at 215,459 mi., presently laid-up while I get
around to checking drive-end of cam for suspected cracking, replace
it. (I've had several of these failures - bad design - sharp corner
produces stress concentration cracking. Honda should know better.
Any mechanical designer worth his salt does!)

But... reading what you guys are posting, I'd probably not buy Honda
today - looks like a lot of trouble.

Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around? Had several real
goodies in the '60's. Always lusted for a crew-cab pickup, canoe on
top, dirt bike in the back, junk-yard dog nearby. <G>

Gawd, don't I sound like an old hippie!


Tom Willmon
near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA

Bug free, cheap, on time, works. Pick two.

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Old 23 May 2005, 07:25 pm
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Default Re: Honda vs Toyota ??

In article <d6tqk7$4f8$2@reader2.nmix.net>, twillmon@cybermesa.net
wrote:

> Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?


Nope.

In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
car. That's from direct experience.
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Old 23 May 2005, 09:57 pm
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"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired
> and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> cost maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year
> old also. I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems.
> Which is better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>
> --
>
> 73
> Hank WD5JFR
>

IMHO either one will be a fine car for you. There has been some concern here
about recent Honda automatic transmissions, but frankly I have no direct
knowledge. It is something to learn about.

Mike (former WA6TDG... many years ago)



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Old 23 May 2005, 10:23 pm
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <d6tqk7$4f8$2@reader2.nmix.net>, twillmon@cybermesa.net
> wrote:
>
>
>>Wonder if there are any decent VeeDubs around?

>
>
> Nope.
>
> In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
> car. That's from direct experience.


most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
parts extensively. focus, cavalier...

in terms of parts quality, even though i don't care for vw either, their
standards are definitely higher than our domestics.

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Old 23 May 2005, 10:31 pm
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agree get a honda
"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Audi, isn't that a Volkswagen, terrible reliability.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "ja" <__jame_sayton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:clpke.23130$CR5.18828@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> > Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm

retired
> > and
> >> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low

> > cost
> >> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old

> > also.
> >> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which

is
> >> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Hank WD5JFR
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

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Old 24 May 2005, 04:31 am
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In article <6vKdnX_Oy7O_Aw_fRVn-rA@speakeasy.net>,
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> > In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
> > car. That's from direct experience.

>
> most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
> parts extensively. focus, cavalier...


Cavalier? Nope. Pure American.

But I wasn't thinking Focus when I was thinking Ford.
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