Honda Car Forum

On Thu, 19 May 2005 20:51:44 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message
>news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
>>I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the
>>window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering
>>strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame.
>>
>
>That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord LXi
>when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was just
>nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to unlock the
>door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just couldn't get
>the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded
>pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap
>between the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door.
>About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in and flip
>the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you!
>
>(Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.)

I had an 89 MG metro broken into that way. Went to the pub one night,
left it there 9obviously) came back the next morning, drove to uni,
when i got there, and was looking for somewhere to park, i thought the
road noise was louder than suual. the passenger door (owhich would be
the drivers door on a UK car0 had been pulled back in that way, it was
about 3-4 inches away from the frame at the top. Never did get it bent
all the way back in again. Ended up getting a new door from another
car, and swapping the lock over.

>
>Mike
>

On 20 May 2005 11:28:31 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in
>news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net:
>
>> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car
>> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last
>> three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract
>> thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The
>> break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these
>> nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three
>> instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to
>> an "exploit" in the windows/door locks.
>>
>> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem?
>>
>> Thanks for any help you can offer.
>
>
>
>One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very
>high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL
>valuables removed.
>
>The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully
>leave emptyhanded.

hopefully not IN you car....

Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few
times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with
the engine running. I'd have blocked the exhaust to stop it too, but
i'd stopped to lift the bonnet, because the exhaust had just come off
the manifold...lost nearly a full tank of petrol, and 4 plugs.

K`Tetch <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in
news:190t819dbe4as41veafm072va8f4gemt9u@4ax.com:


>
> Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few
> times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with
> the engine running.


I did that once too! The car ran for almost two hours before the tow truck
driver arrived and popped the door open (I was in the middle of nowhere).

I later solved that by disconnecting my "key in" warning beep. Now that
there's nothing to save me, I have not locked myself out again in 13 years.


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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
news:Xns965CC906FA3EFjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. .
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns965C9095E654Ftegger@207.14.113.17:
>> And that approach would not have helped my sister either, as they were
>> after her airbags. But then again, they got them anyway, even with the
>> doors locked.
>>
>
> At least the car can be driven without airbags.
> It cannot when your ECU is gone.(or your VTEC motor;note the "B" motors
> are
> no longer available.)
>
> --
Although an ECU can be had for as little as $75 for most models at a
wrecking yard; air bags are a bigger headache. The legality and
acceptability of used air bags is marginal at best, so they are popular
black market items. http://www.asashop.org/news/march99/nace.htm

Mike

On 21 May 2005 00:42:48 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>K`Tetch <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in
>news:190t819dbe4as41veafm072va8f4gemt9u@4ax.com :
>
>
>>
>> Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few
>> times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with
>> the engine running.
>
>
>I did that once too! The car ran for almost two hours before the tow truck
>driver arrived and popped the door open (I was in the middle of nowhere).
>
>I later solved that by disconnecting my "key in" warning beep. Now that
>there's nothing to save me, I have not locked myself out again in 13 years.

I didn't have such a beep.

Its not a problem for me any more though, where i live now, i don't
bother to lock the car anyway (Wifes unclue doesn't even lock his
front door, and he was a cop here for 15 years). Radio station lists
all the arrests and charges here every morning, typically about 8
things listed, mainly speeding, or 'theft by taking'

WooHoo2You wrote:

> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in
> to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I
> live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice
> enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves.
> All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of
> the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are
> easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks.
>
> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem?

Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to
break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies
most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and
2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3
(behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans).

http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf


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Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no:

> WooHoo2You wrote:
>
>> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car
>> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the
>> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to
>> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security.
>> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on
>> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all
>> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into
>> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks.
>>
>> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem?
>
> Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to
> break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies
> most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and
> 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3
> (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans).
>
> http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf



What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this
person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a
door was opened or window broken to gain access.

Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some use
in preventing this sort of auto burglary.

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In article <Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>, Jim Yanik
<jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:

> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
> news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no:
>
> > WooHoo2You wrote:
> >
> >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car
> >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the
> >> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to
> >> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security.
> >> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on
> >> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all
> >> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into
> >> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks.
> >>
> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem?
> >
> > Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to
> > break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies
> > most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and
> > 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3
> > (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans).
> >
> > http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf
>
>
>
> What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this
> person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a
> door was opened or window broken to gain access.
>
> Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some use
> in preventing this sort of auto burglary.

Hello,
Honda has made an effort to fix these problems in their newer vehicles. I
have a 1999 Accord EX. It has a special radio that won't work if it's
removed from the vehicle. It has a security alarm system. It also came
with a special key that has a computer chip under the plastic. The car
won't start unless the special key is used. I don't know whether it's
possible to "hot wire" the car. It's far superior to older Honda Accords
that did not have hardly any security special equipment.
Jason

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I live in a large apartment complex, and my unit is on the back side of the
building from where all of the parking is. Therefore I have no hope of
hearing my alarm, also none of the other tenants would even turn an ear to a
car alarm. My Civic is a 96 with some body damage, spending 200 dollars
(plus install) on a good alarm system seems like a questionable investment
on a car I may own for less then a year.

WooHoo2You

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
news:Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85.. .
> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
> news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no:
>
>> WooHoo2You wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car
>>> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the
>>> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to
>>> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security.
>>> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on
>>> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all
>>> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into
>>> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks.
>>>
>>> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem?
>>
>> Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to
>> break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies
>> most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and
>> 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3
>> (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans).
>>
>> http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf
>
>
>
> What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this
> person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a
> door was opened or window broken to gain access.
>
> Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some
> use
> in preventing this sort of auto burglary.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:jason-2205051619370001@pm4-broad-44.snlo.dialup.fix.net:

> In article <Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>, Jim Yanik
><jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:
>
>> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
>> news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no:
>>
>> > WooHoo2You wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car
>> >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the
>> >> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to
>> >> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight
>> >> security. The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars
>> >> broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of
>> >> the complex. In all three instances the police told me that
>> >> Hondas are easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the
>> >> windows/door locks.
>> >>
>> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem?
>> >
>> > Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy
>> > to break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance
>> > companies most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The
>> > 1987-2000 and 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97
>> > Accords as #3 (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans).
>> >
>> > http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> What gets me is that after the first time or even the second
>> time,this person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would
>> go off if a door was opened or window broken to gain access.
>>
>> Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of
>> some use in preventing this sort of auto burglary.
>
> Hello,
> Honda has made an effort to fix these problems in their newer
> vehicles. I have a 1999 Accord EX. It has a special radio that won't
> work if it's removed from the vehicle. It has a security alarm system.
> It also came with a special key that has a computer chip under the
> plastic. The car won't start unless the special key is used. I don't
> know whether it's possible to "hot wire" the car. It's far superior to
> older Honda Accords that did not have hardly any security special
> equipment. Jason
>

That does not stop them from removing other parts like the ECU or
airbags,seats,or body trim pieces.
The ECU was stolen from my Integra GSR-before I bought an alarm.

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