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twfsa wrote:
> I called a Honda dealer today and there are no gaskets in the plenum, or
> where it mounts to the intake, the book says not to mess with the valves
> unless they are noisy, as they wear they get tighter, I also believe its
> bullshit to have to be adjusting valves when there are non-adjustable
> hydraulic.

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Your dealer KNOWS the manual is wrong (the Euro version of the manual is
correct) . . The valves on a Generation 1 CR-V need to be checked every
30,000 miles. Don't worry about the crankshaft pulley bolt, it would
take about 300 Ft/lb to get it loose

>
> With all the spark plugs out I am going to try and rotate the engine with
> the p/s pump nut, as I am a concerned with using the crankshaft pulley nut
> and it coming loose,and not having the ability to re-torque it, if I can
> rotate the engine with the p/s nut I will check the adjustment on the
> valves, if not off to the dealer I guess.

>>>-----------------------------
>>>
>>>Since that chamber is meant to be removed on occasion, the gaskets are
>>>surely some kind of synthetic rubber or nylon, like inside the air filter
>>>box. They will be reusable. Just slip it off and do your thing....
>>
>>P.S. When you do the adjustments, make sure to set them to the loose side
>>of the spec, since they tend to tighten on the first generation CR-v.
>>Wouldn't hurt to write a note in your owner's manual that says: Every
>>30,000 miles / 50,000 Km. Same interval for rear differential fluid,
>>formerly called CVT Fluid, now called Dual Pump Fluid.
>>
>>http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopic.php?t=9628&
>>
>>>'Curly'
>>>
>>
>
>



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"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> Your dealer KNOWS the manual is wrong (the Euro version of the manual is
> correct) . . The valves on a Generation 1 CR-V need to be checked every
> 30,000 miles. Don't worry about the crankshaft pulley bolt, it would take
> about 300 Ft/lb to get it loose
>
>>
>> With all the spark plugs out I am going to try and rotate the engine with
>> the p/s pump nut, as I am a concerned with using the crankshaft pulley
>> nut and it coming loose,and not having the ability to re-torque it, if I
>> can rotate the engine with the p/s nut I will check the adjustment on the
>> valves, if not off to the dealer I guess.
>

No kidding! We have had many threads about the heroic measures necessary to
get that bolt loose.

Mike

"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:Izaie.9168$cf5.2473@lakeread07:

> I called a Honda dealer today and there are no gaskets in the plenum,
> or where it mounts to the intake, the book says not to mess with the
> valves unless they are noisy, as they wear they get tighter, I also
> believe its bullshit to have to be adjusting valves when there are
> non-adjustable hydraulic.
>
>
> With all the spark plugs out I am going to try and rotate the engine
> with the p/s pump nut, as I am a concerned with using the crankshaft
> pulley nut and it coming loose,



LOL LOL LOL LOL !!!!!

You're new here aren't you? That bolt IS NOT COMING LOOSE WITHOUT A MAJOR
FIGHT! Don't even BEGIN to worry about THAT.

When the day comes for you to REMOVE that bolt you will curse it for not
wanting to come loose.



> and not having the ability to re-torque
> it, if I can rotate the engine with the p/s nut I will check the
> adjustment on the valves, if not off to the dealer I guess.
>
> I intend to replace the spark plugs with NGK, the gap in the owners
> manual calls for 0.04 gap, doesn't seem like much of a gap.



Why not?

What model of plug does it specify?
Does the specified NGK model number end in "11" or "10"?


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TeGGerR.

What expertise do you bring to this forum other than the ....The Unofficial
Honda/Acura FAQ? How many years have you been a factory trained tech?

The spark plugs nunbers end in 11, the gap I posted was out of the owners
manual, I belive what they wanted to state as the gap is 0.043 as I found
in a Haynes manual that goes up the year 2000,the plug number in the owners
manual is a NGK ZFR6F-11, weather thats correct or not I don't know.

Regarding the nut on the crankshaft pulley it depends on who you talk to as
far as how tight it is, somesay 300ft lbs the Haynes manual says torgue it
to 130 ft lbs.

Thanks

Tom





"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns96594C35DAED1tegger@207.14.113.17...
> "twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:Izaie.9168$cf5.2473@lakeread07:
>
>> I called a Honda dealer today and there are no gaskets in the plenum,
>> or where it mounts to the intake, the book says not to mess with the
>> valves unless they are noisy, as they wear they get tighter, I also
>> believe its bullshit to have to be adjusting valves when there are
>> non-adjustable hydraulic.
>>
>>
>> With all the spark plugs out I am going to try and rotate the engine
>> with the p/s pump nut, as I am a concerned with using the crankshaft
>> pulley nut and it coming loose,
>
>
>
> LOL LOL LOL LOL !!!!!
>
> You're new here aren't you? That bolt IS NOT COMING LOOSE WITHOUT A MAJOR
> FIGHT! Don't even BEGIN to worry about THAT.
>
> When the day comes for you to REMOVE that bolt you will curse it for not
> wanting to come loose.
>
>
>
>> and not having the ability to re-torque
>> it, if I can rotate the engine with the p/s nut I will check the
>> adjustment on the valves, if not off to the dealer I guess.
>>
>> I intend to replace the spark plugs with NGK, the gap in the owners
>> manual calls for 0.04 gap, doesn't seem like much of a gap.
>
>
>
> Why not?
>
> What model of plug does it specify?
> Does the specified NGK model number end in "11" or "10"?
>
>
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>
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"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Regarding the nut on the crankshaft pulley it depends on who you talk to
> as far as how tight it is, somesay 300ft lbs the Haynes manual says torgue
> it to 130 ft lbs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom

The torque required to break the $%@#*&! thing loose is certainly *far*
greater than 130 ft-lbs, although that is probably the official spec for
tightening. I am among those who believe it tightens itself either from the
engine turning or from heat and cold cycles, or both. I know I have put a
500 ft-lb impact on one, with a regulator at the tool to eliminate drop in
the hose and a special holding tool for the pulley, and barely broke it
loose. Many are the people who wondered if it was left-hand threaded (it's
not) or if it is Loc-Tited (it's not). TeGGeR knows whereof he speaks - it
ain't going to come loose from turning the engine with it. That would be
like removing lug nuts with your fingers.

Mike

"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:jytie.22913$aB.8028@lakeread03:

> TeGGerR.
>
> What expertise do you bring to this forum other than the ....The
> Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ?


Many years experience being a driveway grease monkey.

If you know how to use Google Groups, you'll see how amusing it is that you
worry about the bolt coming loose. Getting that bolt off is the most
difficult thing about timing belt changes.


> How many years have you been a factory
> trained tech?


Exactly zero. Just like you.


>
> The spark plugs nunbers end in 11, the gap I posted was out of the
> owners manual, I belive what they wanted to state as the gap is 0.043
> as I found in a Haynes manual that goes up the year 2000,the plug
> number in the owners manual is a NGK ZFR6F-11, weather thats correct
> or not I don't know.


11 means 1.1mm, or .043".

Check your underhood EPA sticker. It will also specify a particular type of
plug.


>
> Regarding the nut on the crankshaft pulley it depends on who you talk
> to as far as how tight it is, somesay 300ft lbs the Haynes manual says
> torgue it to 130 ft lbs.



300 ft lbs? Nonsense. Torque is more like 130. It's corrosion that clamps
it in place. You need extreme force to break that seal before the bolt will
move.



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thanks to all for there input.

Tom


"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:jytie.22913$aB.8028@lakeread03:
>
>> TeGGerR.
>>
>> What expertise do you bring to this forum other than the ....The
>> Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ?
>
>
> Many years experience being a driveway grease monkey.
>
> If you know how to use Google Groups, you'll see how amusing it is that
> you
> worry about the bolt coming loose. Getting that bolt off is the most
> difficult thing about timing belt changes.
>
>
>> How many years have you been a factory
>> trained tech?
>
>
> Exactly zero. Just like you.
>
>
>>
>> The spark plugs nunbers end in 11, the gap I posted was out of the
>> owners manual, I belive what they wanted to state as the gap is 0.043
>> as I found in a Haynes manual that goes up the year 2000,the plug
>> number in the owners manual is a NGK ZFR6F-11, weather thats correct
>> or not I don't know.
>
>
> 11 means 1.1mm, or .043".
>
> Check your underhood EPA sticker. It will also specify a particular type
> of
> plug.
>
>
>>
>> Regarding the nut on the crankshaft pulley it depends on who you talk
>> to as far as how tight it is, somesay 300ft lbs the Haynes manual says
>> torgue it to 130 ft lbs.
>
>
>
> 300 ft lbs? Nonsense. Torque is more like 130. It's corrosion that clamps
> it in place. You need extreme force to break that seal before the bolt
> will
> move.
>
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/