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Old 14 May 2005, 03:57 pm
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Is there anyway for us common folk to access the Honda Tech Line?

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Old 14 May 2005, 07:58 pm
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On Sat, 14 May 2005 14:57:18 -0600, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:

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>Is there anyway for us common folk to access the Honda Tech Line?



not if you don't work for a dealership.
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Old 14 May 2005, 08:16 pm
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"chip" <hs4797@brevard.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 May 2005 14:57:18 -0600, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:
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> >Is there anyway for us common folk to access the Honda Tech Line?

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> not if you don't work for a dealership.
> Chip


That's what I thought. Thanks.

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Old 15 May 2005, 12:46 am
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Hehe, then we would have no need for mechanics...

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Old 16 May 2005, 09:06 pm
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bearman wrote:
> Is there anyway for us common folk to access the Honda Tech Line?
>


Not really. Honda even tries to keep it's published Technical Service
bulletins hidden from the customer, unlike most other companies.

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Old 17 May 2005, 07:40 am
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John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in news:ikcie.477$yc.396@trnddc09:

> bearman wrote:
>> Is there anyway for us common folk to access the Honda Tech Line?
>>

>
> Not really. Honda even tries to keep it's published Technical Service
> bulletins hidden from the customer, unlike most other companies.
>




Some of the TSBs are available here as ESBs (Export Service Bulletins):
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/

It's odd that Honda is so secretive when Toyota will grant anyone the same
access (and LOTS more!) for ten bucks a day.
http://techinfo.toyota.com/
Everything from TSBs to EWDs and everything in between.


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Old 17 May 2005, 06:24 pm
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TeGGeR® wrote:

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> Some of the TSBs are available here as ESBs (Export Service Bulletins):
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/
>
> It's odd that Honda is so secretive when Toyota will grant anyone the same
> access (and LOTS more!) for ten bucks a day.
> http://techinfo.toyota.com/
> Everything from TSBs to EWDs and everything in between.
>
>


Thanks for the link. Honda is really pig-headed about this issue and it
makes a person wonder what Honda wants to hide.

John
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Old 18 May 2005, 11:00 am
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In article <I2vie.338$6d.14@trnddc05>, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote:

> TeGGeR® wrote:
>
> >
> > Some of the TSBs are available here as ESBs (Export Service Bulletins):
> > http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/
> >
> > It's odd that Honda is so secretive when Toyota will grant anyone the same
> > access (and LOTS more!) for ten bucks a day.
> > http://techinfo.toyota.com/
> > Everything from TSBs to EWDs and everything in between.
> >
> >

>
> Thanks for the link. Honda is really pig-headed about this issue and it
> makes a person wonder what Honda wants to hide.
>
> John


John,
It's possible that the reason they do it is to save millions of dollars.
For example, if millions of people that own Honda cars never learn about
TSBs related to their vehicles--Honda will never have to pay any money for
the parts and labor needed to repair their vehicles. It's clear proof that
Honda cares more about profits than they care about their customers. Most
companies are like Honda--they care more about profits than they care
about their customers.

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Old 18 May 2005, 12:02 pm
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jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:jason-1805050900340001@pm4-broad-46.snlo.dialup.fix.net:

> In article <I2vie.338$6d.14@trnddc05>, John Horner
> <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> TeGGeR® wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Some of the TSBs are available here as ESBs (Export Service
>> > Bulletins): http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/
>> >
>> > It's odd that Honda is so secretive when Toyota will grant anyone
>> > the same access (and LOTS more!) for ten bucks a day.
>> > http://techinfo.toyota.com/
>> > Everything from TSBs to EWDs and everything in between.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> Thanks for the link. Honda is really pig-headed about this issue and
>> it makes a person wonder what Honda wants to hide.
>>
>> John

>
> John,
> It's possible that the reason they do it is to save millions of
> dollars. For example, if millions of people that own Honda cars never
> learn about TSBs related to their vehicles--Honda will never have to
> pay any money for the parts and labor needed to repair their vehicles.
> It's clear proof that Honda cares more about profits than they care
> about their customers. Most companies are like Honda--they care more
> about profits than they care about their customers.
>



Ohhhhh, I get it...It's a c-o-n-s-p-i-r-a-c-y.

Why on earth would Honda bother issuing a TSB, then keep it secret? Do you
have any idea how many TSBs there are overall?

I think it's more likely that Honda is afraid of alarmed people storming
the dealership demanding that the work be done to their car, even though
their VIN does not fall within the affected range. Most TSBs are fairly
minor.

IOW, the non-publicity is done to preserve people's peace of mind. If it's
a safety-related TSB or recall, the owner of record is notified either by
phone call or by mail.

If you call up the dealership, they will be quite happy to tell you if
there are any TSBs relating to your car, and what the TSB says.

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Old 18 May 2005, 07:18 pm
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In article <Xns965A84B3F10Dtegger@207.14.113.17>, "TeGGeR®"
<tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

> jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:jason-1805050900340001@pm4-broad-46.snlo.dialup.fix.net:
>
> > In article <I2vie.338$6d.14@trnddc05>, John Horner
> > <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> TeGGeR® wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Some of the TSBs are available here as ESBs (Export Service
> >> > Bulletins): http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/
> >> >
> >> > It's odd that Honda is so secretive when Toyota will grant anyone
> >> > the same access (and LOTS more!) for ten bucks a day.
> >> > http://techinfo.toyota.com/
> >> > Everything from TSBs to EWDs and everything in between.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link. Honda is really pig-headed about this issue and
> >> it makes a person wonder what Honda wants to hide.
> >>
> >> John

> >
> > John,
> > It's possible that the reason they do it is to save millions of
> > dollars. For example, if millions of people that own Honda cars never
> > learn about TSBs related to their vehicles--Honda will never have to
> > pay any money for the parts and labor needed to repair their vehicles.
> > It's clear proof that Honda cares more about profits than they care
> > about their customers. Most companies are like Honda--they care more
> > about profits than they care about their customers.
> >

>
>
> Ohhhhh, I get it...It's a c-o-n-s-p-i-r-a-c-y.
>
> Why on earth would Honda bother issuing a TSB, then keep it secret? Do you
> have any idea how many TSBs there are overall?
>
> I think it's more likely that Honda is afraid of alarmed people storming
> the dealership demanding that the work be done to their car, even though
> their VIN does not fall within the affected range. Most TSBs are fairly
> minor.
>
> IOW, the non-publicity is done to preserve people's peace of mind. If it's
> a safety-related TSB or recall, the owner of record is notified either by
> phone call or by mail.
>
> If you call up the dealership, they will be quite happy to tell you if
> there are any TSBs relating to your car, and what the TSB says.


Tegger,
No, I don't think that it's a conspiracy--just normal business practices
for most companies. Early last year, I found a list of the TSBs related to
my Honda. During the tune-up, I asked the person at the Honda service
department to correct any problems related to the TSBs. He said that he
was not aware of any TSBs related to my Honda. He was shocked when I
showed him the list. After looking at the list, he said that he would have
the mechanic check those items. Service writers (or whatever they are
called) should be required to check those TSBs on every car they repair. I
know that they don't do that at the local Honda dealership--even when a
complete tune-up is done.
Jason

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