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Been looking for second car...Found, I think a pretty good deal on
one...it's a 2005 Honda Civic 5 speed with 1000 miles on it...The owner lost
his job when his company folded. He's asking $14k for it or may haggle down
a bit(?)...Question...It has a short cam in it...is this good? bad?..what?
Will it effect gas mileage?The stats show the 2005 get city 38 mpg highway
44mpg...does this ring true? Thanks! Liz

Still need feedback...Please!!!!!


":-)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Been looking for second car...Found, I think a pretty good deal on
> one...it's a 2005 Honda Civic 5 speed with 1000 miles on it...The owner
lost
> his job when his company folded. He's asking $14k for it or may haggle
down
> a bit(?)...Question...It has a short cam in it...is this good? bad?..what?
> Will it effect gas mileage?The stats show the 2005 get city 38 mpg highway
> 44mpg...does this ring true? Thanks! Liz
>
>

The engine number is the number that is stamped directly onto the engine
block--it's located on the front of the engine. Write down the number and
repost it.

In article <DOC8e.671$5t7.4@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, ":-\)Liz"
<wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote:

> Still need feedback...Please!!!!!
>
>
> ":-)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:GH%7e.3069$HK6.1293@newssvr33.news.prodigy.co m...
> > Been looking for second car...Found, I think a pretty good deal on
> > one...it's a 2005 Honda Civic 5 speed with 1000 miles on it...The owner
> lost
> > his job when his company folded. He's asking $14k for it or may haggle
> down
> > a bit(?)...Question...It has a short cam in it...is this good? bad?..what?
> > Will it effect gas mileage?The stats show the 2005 get city 38 mpg highway
> > 44mpg...does this ring true? Thanks! Liz
> >
> >

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What does the engine # have to do with my questions? Which are...It has a
short cam in it ...is this good? bad? or what? and will it effect gas
mileage....Honda says the 2005 5 speed gets 38/city 44/highway..Is this
true?....Thanks


"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> The engine number is the number that is stamped directly onto the engine
> block--it's located on the front of the engine. Write down the number and
> repost it.
>
> In article <DOC8e.671$5t7.4@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, ":-\)Liz"
> <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Still need feedback...Please!!!!!
> >
> >
> > ":-)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:GH%7e.3069$HK6.1293@newssvr33.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > Been looking for second car...Found, I think a pretty good deal on
> > > one...it's a 2005 Honda Civic 5 speed with 1000 miles on it...The
owner
> > lost
> > > his job when his company folded. He's asking $14k for it or may haggle
> > down
> > > a bit(?)...Question...It has a short cam in it...is this good?
bad?..what?
> > > Will it effect gas mileage?The stats show the 2005 get city 38 mpg
highway
> > > 44mpg...does this ring true? Thanks! Liz
> > >
> > >
>
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In this case--you are right. I have a book that has the engine numbers of
lots of Honda vehicles and details about each engine. I checked the book
only after I made the post and realized that the 2005 Honda vehicles are
NOT included in the book so even the person had told me the engine
number--it would not have helped me provide info. that would solve the
problem.


In article <KYF8e.2126$xA5.1585@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> , ":-\)Liz"
<wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote:

> What does the engine # have to do with my questions? Which are...It has a
> short cam in it ...is this good? bad? or what? and will it effect gas
> mileage....Honda says the 2005 5 speed gets 38/city 44/highway..Is this
> true?....Thanks
>
>
> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jason-1704051913120001@pm4-broad-27.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > The engine number is the number that is stamped directly onto the engine
> > block--it's located on the front of the engine. Write down the number and
> > repost it.
> >
> > In article <DOC8e.671$5t7.4@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, ":-\)Liz"
> > <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Still need feedback...Please!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > ":-)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:GH%7e.3069$HK6.1293@newssvr33.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > > Been looking for second car...Found, I think a pretty good deal on
> > > > one...it's a 2005 Honda Civic 5 speed with 1000 miles on it...The
> owner
> > > lost
> > > > his job when his company folded. He's asking $14k for it or may haggle
> > > down
> > > > a bit(?)...Question...It has a short cam in it...is this good?
> bad?..what?
> > > > Will it effect gas mileage?The stats show the 2005 get city 38 mpg
> highway
> > > > 44mpg...does this ring true? Thanks! Liz
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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I think the problem might be the that others are as much in the dark about
what a "short cam" is as I am. I know about "hot" and "mild" cams, but
"short"...?

Mike

":-)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Still need feedback...Please!!!!!
>
>
> ":-)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:GH%7e.3069$HK6.1293@newssvr33.news.prodigy.co m...
>> Been looking for second car...Found, I think a pretty good deal on
>> one...it's a 2005 Honda Civic 5 speed with 1000 miles on it...The owner
> lost
>> his job when his company folded. He's asking $14k for it or may haggle
> down
>> a bit(?)...Question...It has a short cam in it...is this good?
>> bad?..what?
>> Will it effect gas mileage?The stats show the 2005 get city 38 mpg
>> highway
>> 44mpg...does this ring true? Thanks! Liz
>>
>>
>
>

That's one of my questions...What is a short cam? I would assume, as the
owner planned on making this car a performance or race type car that a short
cam has something to do with that...Can't ask the owner about it...as he's
off looking for another job, out of town and the wife is clueless on what it
means...The dealership is as per a dealership...No help.... Oh, well...:-)
Liz


"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> I think the problem might be the that others are as much in the dark about
> what a "short cam" is as I am. I know about "hot" and "mild" cams, but
> "short"...?
>
> Mike
>
> ":-)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsOC8e.671$5t7.4@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> > Still need feedback...Please!!!!!
> >
> >
> > ":-)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:GH%7e.3069$HK6.1293@newssvr33.news.prodigy.co m...
> >> Been looking for second car...Found, I think a pretty good deal on
> >> one...it's a 2005 Honda Civic 5 speed with 1000 miles on it...The owner
> > lost
> >> his job when his company folded. He's asking $14k for it or may haggle
> > down
> >> a bit(?)...Question...It has a short cam in it...is this good?
> >> bad?..what?
> >> Will it effect gas mileage?The stats show the 2005 get city 38 mpg
> >> highway
> >> 44mpg...does this ring true? Thanks! Liz
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

":-\)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in
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> That's one of my questions...What is a short cam? I would assume, as
> the owner planned on making this car a performance or race type car
> that a short cam has something to do with that...Can't ask the owner
> about it...as he's off looking for another job, out of town and the
> wife is clueless on what it means...The dealership is as per a
> dealership...No help.... Oh, well...:-) Liz

Maybe a short RAM??

meaning a short,low restriction air intake,a aluminum pipe with a conical
air filter on the end,easily visible in the engine compartment.

It probably would not affect gas mileage if you do not go harder on the gas
pedal.

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In article <Xns963C6C0866ED3jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86>, Jim Yanik
<jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:

> ":-\)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in
> news:zVN8e.49$fw2.1@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
>
> > That's one of my questions...What is a short cam? I would assume, as
> > the owner planned on making this car a performance or race type car
> > that a short cam has something to do with that...Can't ask the owner
> > about it...as he's off looking for another job, out of town and the
> > wife is clueless on what it means...The dealership is as per a
> > dealership...No help.... Oh, well...:-) Liz
>
> Maybe a short RAM??
>
> meaning a short,low restriction air intake,a aluminum pipe with a conical
> air filter on the end,easily visible in the engine compartment.
>
> It probably would not affect gas mileage if you do not go harder on the gas
> pedal.

If he is planning to race the car--he should at least wait until the
warranty runs out. Once he starts making major changes to the
engine--Honda won't cover any repairs under the warranty program. Could he
have been referring to BORE and STROKE? I recall reading in Honda Tuning
that many of those people that race Honda cars prefer the older Honda
engines from Preludes since the bore and stroke of the Prelude engines
were higher than the bore and stroke of many of the older Civic engines. I
know very little about this subject since I have never raced any cars.

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":-\)Liz" <wldwzzy@furrryahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:vuqdnScNCpoMO_7fRVn-rg@sedona.net...
>> I think the problem might be the that others are as much in the dark
>> about what a "short cam" is as I am. I know about "hot" and "mild"
>> cams, but "short"...?


> That's one of my questions...What is a short cam? I would assume, as
> the owner planned on making this car a performance or race type car
> that a short cam has something to do with that...Can't ask the owner
> about it...as he's off looking for another job, out of town and the
> wife is clueless on what it means...The dealership is as per a
> dealership...No help.... Oh, well...:-) Liz
>



This got my curiosity up too, so I Googled a bit.


"Short cam" apparently refers to the DURATION, or TIMING of the valve
opening. A "short cam" will increase compression, a "long cam" will
decrease it.

www.google.com
type in (including the quotes):
"short cam" duration

Check out the Crane link especially.

A "short cam" is definitely a performance modification and can cause engine
damage if improperly done.


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