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Old 26 Mar 2005, 11:07 pm
Randolph
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Default Glue for door vapor barrier

I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
find this type of adhesive?

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Old 27 Mar 2005, 05:57 am
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"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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>I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> find this type of adhesive?


I don't know where you could find that off hand. I would think that a parts
store would have it. Have you thought about using double faced tape?

Brian


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Old 27 Mar 2005, 08:42 am
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Default Re: Glue for door vapor barrier

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:07:07 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

>I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
>Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
>that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
>find this type of adhesive?


By vapour barrier I assume you mean the rubber weather strip.
In my experience only one thing really works:
<http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/automotive_aftermarket/node_GSN04SFBB0gs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSLPLPKL4Xge/bgel_GSZSZ5F858bl/gvel_Q5D2V4SCM0gl/theme_us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html>

Sorry about that rediculously long URL.
It points to 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive 08001
You should be able to find it at an automotive supply store like UAP
It's a yellow color and incredibly sticky. We used to refer to it as
"gorilla snot"


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Old 27 Mar 2005, 09:05 am
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"John Ings" <nodamned@spam.org> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:07:07 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
>>Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
>>that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
>>find this type of adhesive?

>
> By vapour barrier I assume you mean the rubber weather strip.
> In my experience only one thing really works:
> <http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/automotive_aftermarket/node_GSN04SFBB0gs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSLPLPKL4Xge/bgel_GSZSZ5F858bl/gvel_Q5D2V4SCM0gl/theme_us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html>
>
> Sorry about that rediculously long URL.
> It points to 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive 08001
> You should be able to find it at an automotive supply store like UAP
> It's a yellow color and incredibly sticky. We used to refer to it as
> "gorilla snot"
>
>

I think the barrier he's talking about is the plastic sheet between the
metal door and the interior panel. The stuff that holds it reminds me of
plumber's putty but is much stickier. I'd still expect it to be a 3M product
and it might be the same thing you describe. It definitely isn't rubber
cement, which would stink and harden.

Mike
Mike


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Old 27 Mar 2005, 09:47 am
Kenneth J. Harris
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Default Re: Glue for door vapor barrier

I don't know that you necessarily need to use the OEM stuff for this
sort of job. When replacing these barriers on various cars in the past
I have used GE SiliconeII clear cauking and a butyl cauking made for
sealing rain gutters. These were materials that I had tubes of availble
for cauking around my house and sppear to have adhered strongly and
sealed well. They certainly are made to withstand all types of weather
and moisture exposure.

Ken

Randolph wrote:
> I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> find this type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Old 27 Mar 2005, 09:53 am
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Randolph wrote:
> I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> find this type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks


The closest thing to that gooey stuff is black 'acoustic sealant' which
is terribly messy. They use it to seal vapor barrier in houses, but it's
awful stuff. :-( Comes off your hands with WD-40. If you knew you were
NEVER going to open the door panel again, it might be OK. I just use a
bit of contact cement on top of the old sealant that's in there, to
reseal it. Since you're changing the whole gasket, you'll want something
closer to the real stuff. Hopefully a person who works at a good stereo
intallation place can tell you what to use.

'Curly'

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Old 27 Mar 2005, 10:49 am
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:05:58 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>I think the barrier he's talking about is the plastic sheet between the
>metal door and the interior panel.


Ah! That's just called a 'plastic cover' in the shop manual, but I can
see it's resemblence to vapour barrier. I think the 3M stuff would
hold it though. The shop manual just says 'apply adhesive' without
specifying what kind.


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Old 27 Mar 2005, 12:10 pm
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In article <42463F93.12D0A849@junkmail.com>,
Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

> I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> find this type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks


It's the same goo that seals the windows and tail lights, if that helps
you in your search.
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Old 27 Mar 2005, 12:27 pm
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"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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> It's the same goo that seals the windows and tail lights, if that helps
> you in your search.


I haven't seen any goo around tailights in years. The seals are rubber.

Brian


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Old 27 Mar 2005, 06:37 pm
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Michael Pardee wrote:

> >>I need to replace the vapor barrier in the door of a friend's car. In my
> >>Civic the vapor barrier is held in place by a chewing-gum like adhesive
> >>that has held up well for over 10 years. Does anyone know where I can
> >>find this type of adhesive?

> >
> > By vapour barrier I assume you mean the rubber weather strip.
> > In my experience only one thing really works:


> I think the barrier he's talking about is the plastic sheet between the
> metal door and the interior panel. The stuff that holds it reminds me of
> plumber's putty but is much stickier. I'd still expect it to be a 3M product
> and it might be the same thing you describe. It definitely isn't rubber
> cement, which would stink and harden.


Yes, the plastic sheet is what I am talking about. On the car in
question the sheet was held in place with an adhesive similar to what
you find on packing tape. After 17 years, it is now a slimy goo that
does not hold the sheet in place. I was hoping to find the the stuff
Honda uses, it seems to hold up very well over the years.

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