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Just to let everyone know, my 91 Civic passed emissions with flying colors!
The new cat dropped my CO, hydrocarbon, and oxides of nitrogen down to
practically nothing. A dramatic difference! Even though carbon dioxide
levels don't count they do measure them and they were way down as well.

Hopefully I can drive the Civic until my van is paid off. My daughter
is 13 and it would be a great car for her to learn with.

Just an aside...even though emissions testing is a pain I wholeheartedly
support the program. I think Maryland's plan is fair - $14 for the first
test, if you pass you're good for two years. If you fail the second test is
free and they give you a list of troubleshooting ideas. Subsequent tests
are $14 and they end up giving you something like 6-8 months to correct the
problem. If it still won't pass you can get a 2 year waiver if you can show
repair receipts for at least $450. Sure it costs money, but if you pass
(like most people do) it's $14 every 2 years. A paltry sum when you
consider the benefit to the environment. If you fail you may have to spend
a few bucks, in my case about $350. But I did get a tuneup and a new cat
out of the deal. My car's running great and I've minimized my contribution
to air pollution. Win-win.

Thanks again for all the help from the folks here at alt.autos.honda!

testy wrote:
>
> Just to let everyone know, my 91 Civic passed emissions with flying
> colors! The new cat dropped my CO, hydrocarbon, and oxides of nitrogen
> down to practically nothing. A dramatic difference! Even though carbon
> dioxide levels don't count they do measure them and they were way down as
> well.

If I remember correctly, CO2 is measured to indicate if there are
significant exhaust leaks in the system. CO2 is a normal product of burning
a hydrocarbon. If the levels are too low, then it indicates that there's a
leak and that the other numbers are probably artificially low since not all
of the exhaust gasses are reaching the test station's probe.

Eric

"testy" <mikfaitdiespamdie@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:4am0e.601$Ax.161@trnddc04:

> Just to let everyone know, my 91 Civic passed emissions with flying
> colors! The new cat dropped my CO, hydrocarbon, and oxides of nitrogen
> down to practically nothing.



Numbers please! ppm and %, before and after.

I have a vested interest in this, since after nearly 250K miles my cat's
toast. I passed by ONE (1) ppm on NO two years ago. HC ond CO were still
very low.

Next test for me is this summer, and I expect to fail with my original cat.

Did you use an aftermarket cat, and if so, how'd it fit?


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Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:4241F42D.8EF2F816@spam.now:

> testy wrote:
>>
>> Just to let everyone know, my 91 Civic passed emissions with flying
>> colors! The new cat dropped my CO, hydrocarbon, and oxides of
>> nitrogen down to practically nothing. A dramatic difference! Even
>> though carbon dioxide levels don't count they do measure them and
>> they were way down as well.
>
> If I remember correctly, CO2 is measured to indicate if there are
> significant exhaust leaks in the system.


CO2 is an indication of good combustion. You want HIGH numbers. In the
ASM2525 tests common in North America, CO2 is used as a datum.


> CO2 is a normal product of
> burning a hydrocarbon. If the levels are too low, then it indicates
> that there's a leak and that the other numbers are probably
> artificially low since not all of the exhaust gasses are reaching the
> test station's probe.


That's called "dilution". That's where ambient air characteristics are
compared against exhaust gases. It's pretty complicated.
http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/06...bchapFtoc.html


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"testy" <mikfaitdiespamdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4am0e.601$Ax.161@trnddc04...
>
> Just an aside...even though emissions testing is a pain I wholeheartedly
> support the program. I think Maryland's plan is fair - $14 for the first
> test, if you pass you're good for two years. If you fail the second test
> is
> free and they give you a list of troubleshooting ideas. Subsequent tests
> are $14 and they end up giving you something like 6-8 months to correct
> the
> problem. If it still won't pass you can get a 2 year waiver if you can
> show
> repair receipts for at least $450. Sure it costs money, but if you pass
> (like most people do) it's $14 every 2 years. A paltry sum when you
> consider the benefit to the environment. If you fail you may have to
> spend
> a few bucks, in my case about $350. But I did get a tuneup and a new cat
> out of the deal. My car's running great and I've minimized my
> contribution
> to air pollution. Win-win.
>
> Thanks again for all the help from the folks here at alt.autos.honda!
>
>

Sounds like the smog test in California about 10 years ago - no big deal as
long as you took basic care of your car. Today, it is obnoxious. There are
different types of tests, testing stations and at a cost of $50 per test
pass or not. Lots of fraud in the past that has been addressed by more
procedures. To appease new car buyers, DMV allows for a "smog abatement
fee" in lieu of a smog for the first 5 years of a new car. Smog cert (or
abatement) became a revenue source for the state instead of a clean air
initiative - I hope MD stays simple...