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Old 21 Mar 2005, 07:14 am
Ady
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Default how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel

when i check my oil level from cold there is over an extral litre of oil so
i told my local honda and he insisted to check the oil level correctly you
should turn the car over for a minute to fill the filter etc and then
recheck the level??? which then the level is correct,But in the book it just
says check the level from cold and that's all? but it's way over the max
mark.Honda doesen't think so.


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Old 21 Mar 2005, 12:05 pm
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Default Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel

Your correct and Honda is wrong.

Your oil level is the level when the majority or all of the oil is in the
pan. If you shut it off and let is sit a minute or so you will get a fairly
accurate reading. The most accurate reading is from cold like in the
morning, before turning over on a flat surface.

Additionally the oil filter has a anti-drainback valve that keeps the tiny
ass filter full of oil while sitting so the filter is technically always
full. The new filters only hold about 3 ounces of oil at the most anyways.
This honda guy is blowing smoke up your ass.

The difference however between a cold level check and starting the car for a
minute and letting it drain for a minute or two and then checking should be
nowhere near a liter difference. Either method can be utilized.


"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> when i check my oil level from cold there is over an extral litre of oil
> so i told my local honda and he insisted to check the oil level correctly
> you should turn the car over for a minute to fill the filter etc and then
> recheck the level??? which then the level is correct,But in the book it
> just says check the level from cold and that's all? but it's way over the
> max mark.Honda doesen't think so.
>



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Old 21 Mar 2005, 12:48 pm
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Default Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel

do i still insist they drain some oil out then? cause as an eg the
difference between min-max is 1 litre according to the dipstick but if i let
the car sit a while and check it,It's double over the max mark?

"halo2 guy" <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote in message
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> Your correct and Honda is wrong.
>
> Your oil level is the level when the majority or all of the oil is in the
> pan. If you shut it off and let is sit a minute or so you will get a
> fairly accurate reading. The most accurate reading is from cold like in
> the morning, before turning over on a flat surface.
>
> Additionally the oil filter has a anti-drainback valve that keeps the tiny
> ass filter full of oil while sitting so the filter is technically always
> full. The new filters only hold about 3 ounces of oil at the most
> anyways. This honda guy is blowing smoke up your ass.
>
> The difference however between a cold level check and starting the car for
> a minute and letting it drain for a minute or two and then checking should
> be nowhere near a liter difference. Either method can be utilized.
>
>
> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:yMz%d.97271$ug2.3233@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> when i check my oil level from cold there is over an extral litre of oil
>> so i told my local honda and he insisted to check the oil level correctly
>> you should turn the car over for a minute to fill the filter etc and then
>> recheck the level??? which then the level is correct,But in the book it
>> just says check the level from cold and that's all? but it's way over the
>> max mark.Honda doesen't think so.
>>

>
>



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Old 21 Mar 2005, 10:47 pm
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it sounds too full to me. It shouldn't be over the full mark at all. That
is why it is called the full mark. Anything over the full mark would make
it overfilled. I fail to see why the dealership doesn't understand this.

I would call the regional office and talk to a manager about your problem if
talking to the dealership manager doesn't work out for you.


"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> do i still insist they drain some oil out then? cause as an eg the
> difference between min-max is 1 litre according to the dipstick but if i
> let the car sit a while and check it,It's double over the max mark?
>
> "halo2 guy" <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote in message
> news:EdednbkWV6F7kaLfRVn-2A@comcast.com...
>> Your correct and Honda is wrong.
>>
>> Your oil level is the level when the majority or all of the oil is in the
>> pan. If you shut it off and let is sit a minute or so you will get a
>> fairly accurate reading. The most accurate reading is from cold like in
>> the morning, before turning over on a flat surface.
>>
>> Additionally the oil filter has a anti-drainback valve that keeps the
>> tiny ass filter full of oil while sitting so the filter is technically
>> always full. The new filters only hold about 3 ounces of oil at the most
>> anyways. This honda guy is blowing smoke up your ass.
>>
>> The difference however between a cold level check and starting the car
>> for a minute and letting it drain for a minute or two and then checking
>> should be nowhere near a liter difference. Either method can be
>> utilized.
>>
>>
>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:yMz%d.97271$ug2.3233@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>> when i check my oil level from cold there is over an extral litre of oil
>>> so i told my local honda and he insisted to check the oil level
>>> correctly you should turn the car over for a minute to fill the filter
>>> etc and then recheck the level??? which then the level is correct,But in
>>> the book it just says check the level from cold and that's all? but it's
>>> way over the max mark.Honda doesen't think so.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 21 Mar 2005, 11:35 pm
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"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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> when i check my oil level from cold there is over an extral litre of
> oil




Are you certain there's *that* much extra? Is it overfull by the distance
between the upper and lower marks?

If so, you bring that damn thing back and get them to drain the excess out.
You are running serious danger of damage with that much excess.

If it's just 1/16" over, then there's no worry.


> so i told my local honda and he insisted to check the oil level
> correctly you should turn the car over for a minute to fill the filter
> etc and then recheck the level??? which then the level is correct,But
> in the book it just says check the level from cold and that's all? but
> it's way over the max mark.Honda doesen't think so.




If you checked the oil after an oil change, but BEFORE it was started for
the first time, then you should check it again, because at that point the
dealer is right.

The car should have been shut off for at least a half-hour after having
been run, and should be on a reasonably level surface.


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Old 22 Mar 2005, 12:49 am
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Default Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel

it's almost the distance between the lower & upper overfilled when i check
1st thing in a morning.

"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> news:yMz%d.97271$ug2.3233@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k:
>
>> when i check my oil level from cold there is over an extral litre of
>> oil

>
>
>
> Are you certain there's *that* much extra? Is it overfull by the distance
> between the upper and lower marks?
>
> If so, you bring that damn thing back and get them to drain the excess
> out.
> You are running serious danger of damage with that much excess.
>
> If it's just 1/16" over, then there's no worry.
>
>
>> so i told my local honda and he insisted to check the oil level
>> correctly you should turn the car over for a minute to fill the filter
>> etc and then recheck the level??? which then the level is correct,But
>> in the book it just says check the level from cold and that's all? but
>> it's way over the max mark.Honda doesen't think so.

>
>
>
> If you checked the oil after an oil change, but BEFORE it was started for
> the first time, then you should check it again, because at that point the
> dealer is right.
>
> The car should have been shut off for at least a half-hour after having
> been run, and should be on a reasonably level surface.
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
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Old 22 Mar 2005, 02:08 pm
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Default Re: how to correctly check oil level civic 2004 CTDI diesel

I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way to
check engine oil level is when the engine is warm but has been switched off
for at least 3 mins so now i'm being told 2 different ways to check the oil
from the same garage! which then i pointed out " So your saying the civic
manual is wrong which states check the oil from cold?????". in which case
i've just been for a run fully warmed it up and left it for 3 mins and it's
still almost half the distance between min-max over the max mark.I'm taking
it back on thu all guns blazing.


"halo2 guy" <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote in message
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> it sounds too full to me. It shouldn't be over the full mark at all. That
> is why it is called the full mark. Anything over the full mark would make
> it overfilled. I fail to see why the dealership doesn't understand this.
>
> I would call the regional office and talk to a manager about your problem
> if talking to the dealership manager doesn't work out for you.
>
>
> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:SFE%d.99219$ug2.66893@fe2.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> do i still insist they drain some oil out then? cause as an eg the
>> difference between min-max is 1 litre according to the dipstick but if i
>> let the car sit a while and check it,It's double over the max mark?
>>
>> "halo2 guy" <somewhereovethe@rainbow.com> wrote in message
>> news:EdednbkWV6F7kaLfRVn-2A@comcast.com...
>>> Your correct and Honda is wrong.
>>>
>>> Your oil level is the level when the majority or all of the oil is in
>>> the pan. If you shut it off and let is sit a minute or so you will get
>>> a fairly accurate reading. The most accurate reading is from cold like
>>> in the morning, before turning over on a flat surface.
>>>
>>> Additionally the oil filter has a anti-drainback valve that keeps the
>>> tiny ass filter full of oil while sitting so the filter is technically
>>> always full. The new filters only hold about 3 ounces of oil at the
>>> most anyways. This honda guy is blowing smoke up your ass.
>>>
>>> The difference however between a cold level check and starting the car
>>> for a minute and letting it drain for a minute or two and then checking
>>> should be nowhere near a liter difference. Either method can be
>>> utilized.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:yMz%d.97271$ug2.3233@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>>> when i check my oil level from cold there is over an extral litre of
>>>> oil so i told my local honda and he insisted to check the oil level
>>>> correctly you should turn the car over for a minute to fill the filter
>>>> etc and then recheck the level??? which then the level is correct,But
>>>> in the book it just says check the level from cold and that's all? but
>>>> it's way over the max mark.Honda doesen't think so.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 22 Mar 2005, 02:32 pm
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"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
> to check engine oil level is




<snip>


You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
Owner's Manual.

What does it say in there?


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Old 23 Mar 2005, 12:21 am
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I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.


"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> news:gX_%d.107843$ug2.88518@fe2.news.blueyonder.co .uk:
>
>> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
>> to check engine oil level is

>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
> You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
> Owner's Manual.
>
> What does it say in there?
>
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Old 23 Mar 2005, 04:54 am
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"Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I mentioned in the last post in the manual it says to check it from cold.


Sounds like your anti-drainback valve in your oil filter is toast.


> "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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>> "Ady" <ady.a@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:gX_%d.107843$ug2.88518@fe2.news.blueyonder.co .uk:
>>
>>> I have spoke to the honda manager who has now told me the correct way
>>> to check engine oil level is

>>
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> You have given no indication as to whether or not you've read your
>> Owner's Manual.
>>
>> What does it say in there?
>>
>>
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