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Old 18 Mar 2005, 01:58 pm
N.E.Ohio Bob
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Default Cracked Windshield

'92 Accord, LX 2 door, 5 speed, 225,000 miles, original owner.
Windshield cracked at upper left corner. I was told by glass company
that it is because of rust. They said I should have the rust repaired by
a body shop before a new glass is installed.
Anyone know how long after repair will the rust return? Is the body
work something I can do?
Thanks! bob
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 07:11 pm
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Default Re: Cracked Windshield

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:58:03 GMT, "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

> '92 Accord, LX 2 door, 5 speed, 225,000 miles, original owner.
>Windshield cracked at upper left corner. I was told by glass company
>that it is because of rust. They said I should have the rust repaired by
>a body shop before a new glass is installed.
> Anyone know how long after repair will the rust return? Is the body
>work something I can do?
> Thanks! bob



Dont know when the rust will come but if you live in FL, the insurance
company has to replace the window without any deductable.

I guess its our legislatures way of assuring that people should have
no motive not to have there windshields fixed and thereby are safe on
the road.
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Old 18 Mar 2005, 08:49 pm
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Default Re: Cracked Windshield

N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
> '92 Accord, LX 2 door, 5 speed, 225,000 miles, original owner.
> Windshield cracked at upper left corner. I was told by glass company
> that it is because of rust. They said I should have the rust repaired by
> a body shop before a new glass is installed.
> Anyone know how long after repair will the rust return? Is the body
> work something I can do?
> Thanks! bob


can you see any rust? windshields crack most commonly because of stone
chips.

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Old 19 Mar 2005, 07:04 am
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jim beam wrote:
> N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
>
>> '92 Accord, LX 2 door, 5 speed, 225,000 miles, original owner.
>> Windshield cracked at upper left corner. I was told by glass company
>> that it is because of rust. They said I should have the rust repaired
>> by a body shop before a new glass is installed.
>> Anyone know how long after repair will the rust return? Is the
>> body work something I can do?
>> Thanks! bob

>
>
> can you see any rust? windshields crack most commonly because of stone
> chips.
>

There is just a very small rust spot visible. Glass guy said the crack
has a distinctive color that indicates it was caused by rust. If it were
a stone chip, my insurance would cover it no charge. bob
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Old 19 Mar 2005, 07:41 am
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"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in
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> jim beam wrote:
>> N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:
>>
>>> '92 Accord, LX 2 door, 5 speed, 225,000 miles, original owner.
>>> Windshield cracked at upper left corner. I was told by glass company
>>> that it is because of rust. They said I should have the rust
>>> repaired by a body shop before a new glass is installed.
>>> Anyone know how long after repair will the rust return? Is the
>>> body work something I can do?
>>> Thanks! bob

>>
>>
>> can you see any rust? windshields crack most commonly because of
>> stone chips.
>>

> There is just a very small rust spot visible. Glass guy said the
> crack
> has a distinctive color that indicates it was caused by rust. If it
> were a stone chip, my insurance would cover it no charge. bob
>



Windshields crack for three reasons:
1) Deep stone chips
2) Chip in edge of glass prior to, or during, installation that develops
into a crack
3) Rust in pinchweld.

If the cause of your crack is rust, that fact will be very obvious once the
windshield is cut out if its frame. The location of your crack is a
giveaway. Hondas are notorious for rust in the upper corners of the
windshield frame, especially if the windshield has already been replaced.

Rust in the pinchweld is a very common windshield failure cause up here in
my part of Canada.

Rust is puffy. Since the windshield is bonded in place, the rust's pressure
is localized in a small area, which eventually pushes the glass to the
point that it cracks.

There is only one cure. It's both simple and time-consuming:
1) Remove windshield
2) Sand all rust off the entire windshield frame and the pinchweld
3) Paint and prime roof, pillars and pinchweld
4) Reinstall windshield.

You're probably looking at roughly $300 for the bodywork (assuming no holes
in the metal) and maybe $500 for the windshield. Only a bodyshop can give
you real numbers, though.

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Old 19 Mar 2005, 08:56 am
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TeGGer® wrote:

>
> Windshields crack for three reasons:
> 1) Deep stone chips
> 2) Chip in edge of glass prior to, or during, installation that develops
> into a crack
> 3) Rust in pinchweld.
>
> If the cause of your crack is rust, that fact will be very obvious once the
> windshield is cut out if its frame. The location of your crack is a
> giveaway. Hondas are notorious for rust in the upper corners of the
> windshield frame, especially if the windshield has already been replaced.
>
> Rust in the pinchweld is a very common windshield failure cause up here in
> my part of Canada.
>
> Rust is puffy. Since the windshield is bonded in place, the rust's pressure
> is localized in a small area, which eventually pushes the glass to the
> point that it cracks.
>
> There is only one cure. It's both simple and time-consuming:
> 1) Remove windshield
> 2) Sand all rust off the entire windshield frame and the pinchweld
> 3) Paint and prime roof, pillars and pinchweld
> 4) Reinstall windshield.
>
> You're probably looking at roughly $300 for the bodywork (assuming no holes
> in the metal) and maybe $500 for the windshield. Only a bodyshop can give
> you real numbers, though.
>


Thanks for the information. I found a glass company that will instal a
windshield for $200.00 cash. I'll think about having the glass removed,
and doing the sandblasting and primer and paint myself. (retired with
lots of time and little money) bob


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Old 19 Mar 2005, 11:50 am
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200 cash???? That is insane, there are numerous shops here in Utah that
will do it for 125 bux cash. I was going to get the windshield on my 2000
GMC Sierra done and they told me it was 125 cash. I would do some more
checking around.

Shane


"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:t4X_d.2631$rL3.703@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> TeGGer® wrote:
>
> >
> > Windshields crack for three reasons:
> > 1) Deep stone chips
> > 2) Chip in edge of glass prior to, or during, installation that develops
> > into a crack
> > 3) Rust in pinchweld.
> >
> > If the cause of your crack is rust, that fact will be very obvious once

the
> > windshield is cut out if its frame. The location of your crack is a
> > giveaway. Hondas are notorious for rust in the upper corners of the
> > windshield frame, especially if the windshield has already been

replaced.
> >
> > Rust in the pinchweld is a very common windshield failure cause up here

in
> > my part of Canada.
> >
> > Rust is puffy. Since the windshield is bonded in place, the rust's

pressure
> > is localized in a small area, which eventually pushes the glass to the
> > point that it cracks.
> >
> > There is only one cure. It's both simple and time-consuming:
> > 1) Remove windshield
> > 2) Sand all rust off the entire windshield frame and the pinchweld
> > 3) Paint and prime roof, pillars and pinchweld
> > 4) Reinstall windshield.
> >
> > You're probably looking at roughly $300 for the bodywork (assuming no

holes
> > in the metal) and maybe $500 for the windshield. Only a bodyshop can

give
> > you real numbers, though.
> >

>
> Thanks for the information. I found a glass company that will instal a
> windshield for $200.00 cash. I'll think about having the glass removed,
> and doing the sandblasting and primer and paint myself. (retired with
> lots of time and little money) bob
>
>



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Old 20 Mar 2005, 06:10 am
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Snowboard3r wrote:
> 200 cash???? That is insane, there are numerous shops here in Utah that
> will do it for 125 bux cash. I was going to get the windshield on my 2000
> GMC Sierra done and they told me it was 125 cash. I would do some more
> checking around.
>
> Shane


I think all the glass shops around here are owned by the same
conglomerate, and are in cahoots with the insurance companies.
We have the same thing going on with the ice companies. You want ice,
you buy from us. bob
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