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Old 06 Aug 2010, 04:47 pm
Steven L.
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Default New 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe--VANDALIZED after only ONE MONTH of ownership

Hi all,
In July I bought myself a brand new silver 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe,
which I parked in the parking lot of my apartment complex.

And last Monday, less than 5 weeks after I drove the car out of the
showroom, the car was vandalized right in the parking lot, not far from
where I sleep.

Thieves jacked up the car and stole the wheels and wheel covers. But
they weren't careful: The jack must have slipped, because the car minus
its wheels fell down on the ground, damaging the bumper and
undercarriage and left front rotor. It's going to take a week of work
from a body shop to restore the car.

I can't keep having this happen once a month.

So I'm wondering what steps I can take to prevent this in the future.
I'm putting locking wheel lug nuts on (the kind you need a key to
remove), and I'm looking at an alarm system w/tilt sensor.

Any other ideas?




-- Steven L.


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Old 06 Aug 2010, 06:13 pm
Brian Smith
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Default Re: New 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe--VANDALIZED after only ONE MONTHof ownership

On 8/6/2010 5:47 PM, Steven L. wrote:
> Hi all,
> In July I bought myself a brand new silver 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe,
> which I parked in the parking lot of my apartment complex.
>
> And last Monday, less than 5 weeks after I drove the car out of the
> showroom, the car was vandalized right in the parking lot, not far from
> where I sleep.
>
> Thieves jacked up the car and stole the wheels and wheel covers. But
> they weren't careful: The jack must have slipped, because the car minus
> its wheels fell down on the ground, damaging the bumper and
> undercarriage and left front rotor. It's going to take a week of work
> from a body shop to restore the car.
>
> I can't keep having this happen once a month.
>
> So I'm wondering what steps I can take to prevent this in the future.
> I'm putting locking wheel lug nuts on (the kind you need a key to
> remove), and I'm looking at an alarm system w/tilt sensor.
>
> Any other ideas?


Move to a better neighbourhood.
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Old 06 Aug 2010, 06:25 pm
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Default Re: New 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe--VANDALIZED after only ONE MONTH of ownership

"Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:dYGdnQr0LLZgH8HRnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@earthlink.co m:

> Hi all,
> In July I bought myself a brand new silver 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe,
> which I parked in the parking lot of my apartment complex.
>
> And last Monday, less than 5 weeks after I drove the car out of the
> showroom, the car was vandalized right in the parking lot, not far from
> where I sleep.
>
> Thieves jacked up the car and stole the wheels and wheel covers.




You had steel wheels and they still ripped them off?



> But
> they weren't careful: The jack must have slipped, because the car minus
> its wheels fell down on the ground,




They were, of necessity, in a big hurry. I'll bet they had all 4 wheels off
in less than two minutes.



> damaging the bumper and
> undercarriage and left front rotor. It's going to take a week of work
> from a body shop to restore the car.
>
> I can't keep having this happen once a month.
>
> So I'm wondering what steps I can take to prevent this in the future.
> I'm putting locking wheel lug nuts on (the kind you need a key to
> remove), and I'm looking at an alarm system w/tilt sensor.
>
> Any other ideas?
>



The locking wheel nuts are not likely to be effective. The thieves use
cordless impact guns and special sockets designed to remove those locking
nuts.

Even an alarm may not help much. I understand that sometimes crooks jostle
the car to set off any alarm, then they hide nearby and see if anybody
responds to it. If not, they come back later and do their damage.

I like the alarm idea. An alarm at least gives you the hope that the noise
may scare them off. But spend the bucks to have a competent shop install it
so as to prevent damage to the car's electrical system.


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Tegger
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Old 06 Aug 2010, 07:37 pm
Grumpy AuContraire
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Steven L. wrote:
> Hi all,
> In July I bought myself a brand new silver 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe,
> which I parked in the parking lot of my apartment complex.
>
> And last Monday, less than 5 weeks after I drove the car out of the
> showroom, the car was vandalized right in the parking lot, not far from
> where I sleep.
>
> Thieves jacked up the car and stole the wheels and wheel covers. But
> they weren't careful: The jack must have slipped, because the car minus
> its wheels fell down on the ground, damaging the bumper and
> undercarriage and left front rotor. It's going to take a week of work
> from a body shop to restore the car.
>
> I can't keep having this happen once a month.
>
> So I'm wondering what steps I can take to prevent this in the future.
> I'm putting locking wheel lug nuts on (the kind you need a key to
> remove), and I'm looking at an alarm system w/tilt sensor.
>
> Any other ideas?



Buy and drive a beater for everyday use.

Keep the "good" car in a safe place.

If in a state like Texas, be on the alert and keep the Glock 19 handy.

JT
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Old 06 Aug 2010, 07:39 pm
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Tegger wrote:
> "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:dYGdnQr0LLZgH8HRnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>
>> Hi all,
>> In July I bought myself a brand new silver 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe,
>> which I parked in the parking lot of my apartment complex.
>>
>> And last Monday, less than 5 weeks after I drove the car out of the
>> showroom, the car was vandalized right in the parking lot, not far from
>> where I sleep.
>>
>> Thieves jacked up the car and stole the wheels and wheel covers.

>
>
>
> You had steel wheels and they still ripped them off?
>
>
>
>> But
>> they weren't careful: The jack must have slipped, because the car minus
>> its wheels fell down on the ground,

>
>
>
> They were, of necessity, in a big hurry. I'll bet they had all 4 wheels off
> in less than two minutes.
>
>
>
>> damaging the bumper and
>> undercarriage and left front rotor. It's going to take a week of work
>> from a body shop to restore the car.
>>
>> I can't keep having this happen once a month.
>>
>> So I'm wondering what steps I can take to prevent this in the future.
>> I'm putting locking wheel lug nuts on (the kind you need a key to
>> remove), and I'm looking at an alarm system w/tilt sensor.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>

>
>
> The locking wheel nuts are not likely to be effective. The thieves use
> cordless impact guns and special sockets designed to remove those locking
> nuts.
>
> Even an alarm may not help much. I understand that sometimes crooks jostle
> the car to set off any alarm, then they hide nearby and see if anybody
> responds to it. If not, they come back later and do their damage.
>
> I like the alarm idea. An alarm at least gives you the hope that the noise
> may scare them off. But spend the bucks to have a competent shop install it
> so as to prevent damage to the car's electrical system.



Just sleep under a cover in the back seat... Keep that Glock handy though!

JT


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Old 06 Aug 2010, 07:43 pm
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Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:dYGdnQr0LLZgH8HRnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@earthlink.co m:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> In July I bought myself a brand new silver 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe,
>>> which I parked in the parking lot of my apartment complex.
>>>
>>> And last Monday, less than 5 weeks after I drove the car out of the
>>> showroom, the car was vandalized right in the parking lot, not far
>>> from where I sleep.
>>>
>>> Thieves jacked up the car and stole the wheels and wheel covers.

>>
>>
>>
>> You had steel wheels and they still ripped them off?
>>
>>
>>
>>> But they weren't careful: The jack must have slipped, because the
>>> car minus its wheels fell down on the ground,

>>
>>
>>
>> They were, of necessity, in a big hurry. I'll bet they had all 4
>> wheels off in less than two minutes.
>>
>>
>>
>>> damaging the bumper and undercarriage and left front rotor. It's
>>> going to take a week of work from a body shop to restore the car.
>>>
>>> I can't keep having this happen once a month.
>>>
>>> So I'm wondering what steps I can take to prevent this in the
>>> future. I'm putting locking wheel lug nuts on (the kind you need a
>>> key to remove), and I'm looking at an alarm system w/tilt sensor.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas?
>>>

>>
>>
>> The locking wheel nuts are not likely to be effective. The thieves use
>> cordless impact guns and special sockets designed to remove those
>> locking nuts.
>>
>> Even an alarm may not help much. I understand that sometimes crooks
>> jostle the car to set off any alarm, then they hide nearby and see if
>> anybody responds to it. If not, they come back later and do their damage.
>>
>> I like the alarm idea. An alarm at least gives you the hope that the
>> noise may scare them off. But spend the bucks to have a competent shop
>> install it so as to prevent damage to the car's electrical system.

>
>
> Just sleep under a cover in the back seat... Keep that Glock handy though!
>
> JT
>
>


A Glock is a mouse gun, go for a M1911A1 .45ACP, John M. Browning's
finest :-)

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Old 06 Aug 2010, 08:01 pm
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Default Re: New 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe--VANDALIZED after only ONE MONTHof ownership

On 8/6/2010 7:43 PM, Jim_Higgins wrote:

>>
>> Just sleep under a cover in the back seat... Keep that Glock handy
>> though!
>>
>> JT
>>
>>

>
> A Glock is a mouse gun, go for a M1911A1 .45ACP, John M. Browning's
> finest :-)



Nothing wrong with a G36 or G30. I have the latter. Just call it the
"Mouse that ROARS!" Amazingly accurate little hand cannon right out of
the box. Have a friend who carries the G36 in an ankle holster, talk
about a surprise package for somebody<g>




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Old 06 Aug 2010, 08:04 pm
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Grumpy AuContraire <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
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>
> Just sleep under a cover in the back seat... Keep that Glock handy
> though!
>



Cars are too uncomfortable to sleep in unless you're drunk.


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Old 06 Aug 2010, 08:05 pm
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"Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:dYGdnQr0LLZgH8HRnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@earthlink.co m:

> Hi all,
> In July I bought myself a brand new silver 2010 Honda Civic EX coupe,
> which I parked in the parking lot of my apartment complex.
>
> And last Monday, less than 5 weeks after I drove the car out of the
> showroom, the car was vandalized right in the parking lot, not far from
> where I sleep.
>
> Thieves jacked up the car and stole the wheels and wheel covers. But
> they weren't careful: The jack must have slipped, because the car minus
> its wheels fell down on the ground, damaging the bumper and
> undercarriage and left front rotor. It's going to take a week of work
> from a body shop to restore the car.


it's deliberate to leave the car on the ground.
I've seen it on many cars that had their wheels stolen.
they take the jack to leave no evidence,even take the lug nuts.

>
> I can't keep having this happen once a month.
>
> So I'm wondering what steps I can take to prevent this in the future.
> I'm putting locking wheel lug nuts on (the kind you need a key to
> remove), and I'm looking at an alarm system w/tilt sensor.


Locking or keyed lug nuts can be removed;
Harbor Freight and Advance Auto both sell devices specifically made to
remove locking lug nuts,they fit on a 1/2" breaker bar. Advance Auto also
sells "slim-jims" to open your car door without keys.

Just remember that once the alarm goes off,the police will take some time
to arrive,after you've spent several minutes answering the 911 operator's
many questions and repeating them over and over.
(when seconds count,police are minutes away)
the 911 operator will want to know how many thieves,what race,what are they
wearing,what color,make,model and license number of the vehicle they're
driving.

One other thing;
Honda often routes the hood release cable through the left
wheelwell,thieves tear out the plastic wheelwell,cut the cable and pull it
with pliers to unlatch your hood,then when they open the hood,a second
thief quickly cuts the wires to the alarm siren/speaker.
The alarm only sounds for a second,not long enough to waken you at 3:30 AM.

That's the typical time frame when "Midnite Auto Parts" strikes;after the
bars close and the drunks have gotten home,but before people begin rising
to go to work.

Also,you may need to make a shield to cover the hood latch itself,because
the thieves also can use a wire hook to reach under the front bumper and
pull the latch wire;there are websites online that show how.

I have had lots of experience with such thieves... :-(
My 94 Integra GS-R was burglarized for the ECU,then a few years
later,stolen,stripped and torched.A friends Integra was burglarized and
stripped in the manner I described about the hood latch. Thieves also pried
off the Acura name,GS-R badge and Acura symbol from my car's hatchback.They
are not cheap.
I did not get the fuel cutoff switch installed in time to prevent my car's
theft.My alarm did wake me to see them push-starting it and to hear the
alarm fade in the distance as it went down the street,already out of sight.
(a gated apartment community,too.) "Gone in 60 Seconds" was accurate.
My Integra did not have the Immobilizer key system that newer models have.

If you decide to go out to confront them yourself,be prepared.
some of these thieves are armed,and there's usually more than one of them.


>
> Any other ideas?


Garage the car,if possible.
Or get wheels and tires that have no value. no fancy,low profile
tires/rims. forget about replacing the hubcaps.

there's really no other way to keep the wheels from being stolen again.


--
Jim Yanik
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at
localnet
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Old 06 Aug 2010, 08:12 pm
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Dddudley <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in news:4c5cb251$0$14602
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> On 8/6/2010 7:43 PM, Jim_Higgins wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Just sleep under a cover in the back seat... Keep that Glock handy
>>> though!
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>>
>> A Glock is a mouse gun, go for a M1911A1 .45ACP, John M. Browning's
>> finest :-)

>
>
> Nothing wrong with a G36 or G30. I have the latter. Just call it the
> "Mouse that ROARS!" Amazingly accurate little hand cannon right out of
> the box. Have a friend who carries the G36 in an ankle holster, talk
> about a surprise package for somebody<g>
>



A big hole in the end of the barrel is a big hole in the end of the barrel,
regardless of the style of the pistol.

I used to have a Glock 22. I used handloads that were set up to make major
in IPSC competition. Can't imagine the kick you'd get from a light, short-
barrelled, polymer-framed .45.


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