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Old 05 Aug 2010, 12:32 am
Mat
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Default Acura auto tranny failures

Want to buy a 97-98 Acura CL but OMG the auto tranny failure rate is so
high and the 01-02's are WORSE! What is going on with Honda, I thought
they were reliable???
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Old 05 Aug 2010, 09:42 am
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On 08/04/2010 10:32 PM, Mat wrote:
> Want to buy a 97-98 Acura CL but OMG the auto tranny failure rate is so
> high and the 01-02's are WORSE! What is going on with Honda, I thought
> they were reliable???


they were. then the bean counters took over. that's why honda lost the
enthusiast market to subaru - they cheaped out and went macpherson strut
on the civic. may as well buy a corolla for your daily driver now.

anyway, just get a 4-cylinder accord - still bullet proof.

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Old 05 Aug 2010, 10:02 pm
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"jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On 08/04/2010 10:32 PM, Mat wrote:
>> Want to buy a 97-98 Acura CL but OMG the auto tranny failure rate is so
>> high and the 01-02's are WORSE! What is going on with Honda, I thought
>> they were reliable???

>
> they were. then the bean counters took over. that's why honda lost the
> enthusiast market to subaru - they cheaped out and went macpherson strut
> on the civic. may as well buy a corolla for your daily driver now.
>
> anyway, just get a 4-cylinder accord - still bullet proof.
>
> --
> nomina rutrum rutrum


Actually they did a pretty good job on Acura RSX using MacPherson struts. It
is an improvement over the previous suspensions. Corolla is not even close
when it comes to handling and responsiveness.


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Old 06 Aug 2010, 10:19 am
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Default Re: Acura auto tranny failures

On 08/05/2010 08:02 PM, Bob Jones wrote:
> "jim beam"<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:z-ydnefo4P5aUMfRnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> On 08/04/2010 10:32 PM, Mat wrote:
>>> Want to buy a 97-98 Acura CL but OMG the auto tranny failure rate is so
>>> high and the 01-02's are WORSE! What is going on with Honda, I thought
>>> they were reliable???

>>
>> they were. then the bean counters took over. that's why honda lost the
>> enthusiast market to subaru - they cheaped out and went macpherson strut
>> on the civic. may as well buy a corolla for your daily driver now.
>>
>> anyway, just get a 4-cylinder accord - still bullet proof.
>>
>> --
>> nomina rutrum rutrum

>
> Actually they did a pretty good job on Acura RSX using MacPherson struts. It
> is an improvement over the previous suspensions.


comfort-wise, sure. it's a good freeway cruiser, and it's fast in a
straight line, but tire for tire, integras are better on the curves.


> Corolla is not even close
> when it comes to handling and responsiveness.
>
>



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Old 06 Aug 2010, 02:36 pm
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Bob Jones wrote:
> "jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:z-ydnefo4P5aUMfRnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> On 08/04/2010 10:32 PM, Mat wrote:
>>> Want to buy a 97-98 Acura CL but OMG the auto tranny failure rate is so
>>> high and the 01-02's are WORSE! What is going on with Honda, I thought
>>> they were reliable???

>> they were. then the bean counters took over. that's why honda lost the
>> enthusiast market to subaru - they cheaped out and went macpherson strut
>> on the civic. may as well buy a corolla for your daily driver now.
>>
>> anyway, just get a 4-cylinder accord - still bullet proof.
>>
>> --
>> nomina rutrum rutrum

>
> Actually they did a pretty good job on Acura RSX using MacPherson struts. It
> is an improvement over the previous suspensions. Corolla is not even close
> when it comes to handling and responsiveness.



My ancient Gen II Civis use struts and I challenge anyone to find a
better handling car. Damned things are glued to the road...

JT
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Old 06 Aug 2010, 08:10 pm
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jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote in
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> On 08/05/2010 08:02 PM, Bob Jones wrote:



>> Actually they did a pretty good job on Acura RSX using MacPherson
>> struts. It is an improvement over the previous suspensions.


IMO,Prelude's double wishbone was far better.
That's what the best open wheel racing cars use.

>
> comfort-wise, sure. it's a good freeway cruiser, and it's fast in a
> straight line, but tire for tire, integras are better on the curves.


and better looking.

The RSX looks like an Integra that's been overinflated.

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Old 07 Aug 2010, 12:02 am
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On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 20:10:24 -0500, Jim Yanik wrote:

> jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:Ib2dnReKU4twusHRnZ2dnUVZ_tYAAAAA@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> On 08/05/2010 08:02 PM, Bob Jones wrote:

>
>
>>> Actually they did a pretty good job on Acura RSX using MacPherson
>>> struts. It is an improvement over the previous suspensions.

>
> IMO,Prelude's double wishbone was far better.
> That's what the best open wheel racing cars use.
>
>>
>> comfort-wise, sure. it's a good freeway cruiser, and it's fast in a
>> straight line, but tire for tire, integras are better on the curves.

>
> and better looking.
>
> The RSX looks like an Integra that's been overinflated.


Still got my 90 GS Integra, cant bear to part with it... 5spd of course

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Old 07 Aug 2010, 12:05 am
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Default Re: Acura auto tranny failures

On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:42:14 -0700, jim beam wrote:

> On 08/04/2010 10:32 PM, Mat wrote:
>> Want to buy a 97-98 Acura CL but OMG the auto tranny failure rate is so
>> high and the 01-02's are WORSE! What is going on with Honda, I thought
>> they were reliable???

>
> they were. then the bean counters took over. that's why honda lost the
> enthusiast market to subaru - they cheaped out and went macpherson strut
> on the civic. may as well buy a corolla for your daily driver now.
>
> anyway, just get a 4-cylinder accord - still bullet proof.


Alot of tranny failures with those too, 98-00 mostly v6's tho. Have an 03
accord 4 auto and it seems fine

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Old 09 Aug 2010, 01:20 pm
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On 08/06/2010 12:36 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> Bob Jones wrote:
>> "jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:z-ydnefo4P5aUMfRnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> On 08/04/2010 10:32 PM, Mat wrote:
>>>> Want to buy a 97-98 Acura CL but OMG the auto tranny failure rate is so
>>>> high and the 01-02's are WORSE! What is going on with Honda, I thought
>>>> they were reliable???
>>> they were. then the bean counters took over. that's why honda lost
>>> the enthusiast market to subaru - they cheaped out and went
>>> macpherson strut on the civic. may as well buy a corolla for your
>>> daily driver now.
>>>
>>> anyway, just get a 4-cylinder accord - still bullet proof.
>>>
>>> --
>>> nomina rutrum rutrum

>>
>> Actually they did a pretty good job on Acura RSX using MacPherson
>> struts. It is an improvement over the previous suspensions. Corolla is
>> not even close when it comes to handling and responsiveness.

>
>
> My ancient Gen II Civis use struts and I challenge anyone to find a
> better handling car.


easy - the gen IV. what you really mean is that it's the best car in
your experience - which is an entirely different thing.


> Damned things are glued to the road...


they're fine for their year, but the wishbone system performs better.
that is afterall why it was introduced...


>
> JT



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Old 09 Aug 2010, 09:18 pm
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jim beam wrote:
> On 08/06/2010 12:36 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>> Bob Jones wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:z-ydnefo4P5aUMfRnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>> On 08/04/2010 10:32 PM, Mat wrote:
>>>>> Want to buy a 97-98 Acura CL but OMG the auto tranny failure rate
>>>>> is so
>>>>> high and the 01-02's are WORSE! What is going on with Honda, I thought
>>>>> they were reliable???
>>>> they were. then the bean counters took over. that's why honda lost
>>>> the enthusiast market to subaru - they cheaped out and went
>>>> macpherson strut on the civic. may as well buy a corolla for your
>>>> daily driver now.
>>>>
>>>> anyway, just get a 4-cylinder accord - still bullet proof.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> nomina rutrum rutrum
>>>
>>> Actually they did a pretty good job on Acura RSX using MacPherson
>>> struts. It is an improvement over the previous suspensions. Corolla is
>>> not even close when it comes to handling and responsiveness.

>>
>>
>> My ancient Gen II Civis use struts and I challenge anyone to find a
>> better handling car.

>
> easy - the gen IV. what you really mean is that it's the best car in
> your experience - which is an entirely different thing.
>
>
>> Damned things are glued to the road...

>
> they're fine for their year, but the wishbone system performs better.
> that is afterall why it was introduced...



Why would I get something with a computer, complex emissions, expensive
repair parts etc. that really doesn't provide a measurable (to most)
improvement in ride, stability and comfort?

I've driven Gen 1V and really don't see much of a difference. Certainly
not enough to justify the expense...

JT
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