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Old 03 Jul 2010, 09:11 pm
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Default 92 Civic Won't Fire Plugs

I don't know a better way to describe the problem.

In 2009, I had a loud screeching noise coming from my distributor like
the bearings were going bad so the local Honda dealer rebuilt the
distributor. Everything seemed to be fine.

Six months later, the car would turn the engine but it wouldn't start.
It was like there was no power to the spark plugs, however, when I
giggled the key in the ignition, it started with no problem.

The problem got worse over time but giggling the key in the ignition
seemed to fix the problem, temporarily. It might go a week or a month
but every time it wouldn't start, giggling the key in the ignition fixed
it, again temporarily.

Local Honda dealer replaced the ignition switch and problem went away
for about three months. But, then it returned.

Now the car won't fire the plugs and the local Honda dealer is not sure
why. I think it is the rebuilt distributor. The only other item they
replaced was the "oil pressure switch."

I don't think the problem was the ignition switch but neither myself or
the local Honda dealer can figure it out. They have tried new relays and
that didn't fix the problem.

Any ideas? Or should I just junk this 18 year old Honda and try another
brand, like a Mazda CX9?

JD is at his wits end and the the local Honda dealer doesn't seem to
have a clue as to how to fix the problem.

It's a 1992 Honda Civic hatch, if that's any help. It has less than
40,000 miles. I don't drive much.

Thanks for reading this far. 8-)

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Old 03 Jul 2010, 09:44 pm
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JD wrote:

> I don't know a better way to describe the problem.
>
> In 2009, I had a loud screeching noise coming from my distributor like
> the bearings were going bad so the local Honda dealer rebuilt the
> distributor. Everything seemed to be fine.
>
> Six months later, the car would turn the engine but it wouldn't start.
> It was like there was no power to the spark plugs, however, when I
> giggled the key in the ignition, it started with no problem.
>
> The problem got worse over time but giggling the key in the ignition
> seemed to fix the problem, temporarily. It might go a week or a month
> but every time it wouldn't start, giggling the key in the ignition fixed
> it, again temporarily.
>
> Local Honda dealer replaced the ignition switch and problem went away
> for about three months. But, then it returned.
>
> Now the car won't fire the plugs and the local Honda dealer is not sure
> why. I think it is the rebuilt distributor. The only other item they
> replaced was the "oil pressure switch."
>
> I don't think the problem was the ignition switch but neither myself or
> the local Honda dealer can figure it out. They have tried new relays and
> that didn't fix the problem.
>
> Any ideas? Or should I just junk this 18 year old Honda and try another
> brand, like a Mazda CX9?
>
> JD is at his wits end and the the local Honda dealer doesn't seem to
> have a clue as to how to fix the problem.
>
> It's a 1992 Honda Civic hatch, if that's any help. It has less than
> 40,000 miles. I don't drive much.
>
> Thanks for reading this far. 8-)


Were the spark plugs ever replaced, especially when or after the distributor
was rebuilt?
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Old 03 Jul 2010, 10:52 pm
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Eternal Searcher wrote:
> JD wrote:
>
>> I don't know a better way to describe the problem.
>>
>> In 2009, I had a loud screeching noise coming from my distributor like
>> the bearings were going bad so the local Honda dealer rebuilt the
>> distributor. Everything seemed to be fine.
>>
>> Six months later, the car would turn the engine but it wouldn't start.
>> It was like there was no power to the spark plugs, however, when I
>> giggled the key in the ignition, it started with no problem.
>>
>> The problem got worse over time but giggling the key in the ignition
>> seemed to fix the problem, temporarily. It might go a week or a month
>> but every time it wouldn't start, giggling the key in the ignition fixed
>> it, again temporarily.
>>
>> Local Honda dealer replaced the ignition switch and problem went away
>> for about three months. But, then it returned.
>>
>> Now the car won't fire the plugs and the local Honda dealer is not sure
>> why. I think it is the rebuilt distributor. The only other item they
>> replaced was the "oil pressure switch."
>>
>> I don't think the problem was the ignition switch but neither myself or
>> the local Honda dealer can figure it out. They have tried new relays and
>> that didn't fix the problem.
>>
>> Any ideas? Or should I just junk this 18 year old Honda and try another
>> brand, like a Mazda CX9?
>>
>> JD is at his wits end and the the local Honda dealer doesn't seem to
>> have a clue as to how to fix the problem.
>>
>> It's a 1992 Honda Civic hatch, if that's any help. It has less than
>> 40,000 miles. I don't drive much.
>>
>> Thanks for reading this far. 8-)

>
> Were the spark plugs ever replaced, especially when or after the distributor
> was rebuilt?


No, the spark plugs have never been replaced. Over the life of these
plugs the Miles Per Gallon have not decreased so the plugs "were" doing
their job. Why do you ask about the plugs? At this point, I'm willing to
replace the plugs.

The local Honda dealer did mention something about the "park inter-lock"
acting up but I'm not sure what that is. And they did mention there is
some type of "switch" in the distributor that fires the plugs and powers
the fuel pump but I'm not sure about that either.

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Old 04 Jul 2010, 05:48 am
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JD <JD@example.invalid> wrote in
news:jqmdnfwsQtLXmK3RnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@posted.grand ecom:


>
> The local Honda dealer did mention something about the "park
> inter-lock" acting up but I'm not sure what that is. And they did
> mention there is some type of "switch" in the distributor that fires
> the plugs and powers the fuel pump but I'm not sure about that either.
>



Do you have a tachometer?


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Old 04 Jul 2010, 07:37 am
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Check the pickup or coil in the distributor
"JD" <JD@example.invalid> wrote in message
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>I don't know a better way to describe the problem.
>
> In 2009, I had a loud screeching noise coming from my distributor like the
> bearings were going bad so the local Honda dealer rebuilt the distributor.
> Everything seemed to be fine.
>
> Six months later, the car would turn the engine but it wouldn't start. It
> was like there was no power to the spark plugs, however, when I giggled
> the key in the ignition, it started with no problem.
>
> The problem got worse over time but giggling the key in the ignition
> seemed to fix the problem, temporarily. It might go a week or a month but
> every time it wouldn't start, giggling the key in the ignition fixed it,
> again temporarily.
>
> Local Honda dealer replaced the ignition switch and problem went away for
> about three months. But, then it returned.
>
> Now the car won't fire the plugs and the local Honda dealer is not sure
> why. I think it is the rebuilt distributor. The only other item they
> replaced was the "oil pressure switch."
>
> I don't think the problem was the ignition switch but neither myself or
> the local Honda dealer can figure it out. They have tried new relays and
> that didn't fix the problem.
>
> Any ideas? Or should I just junk this 18 year old Honda and try another
> brand, like a Mazda CX9?
>
> JD is at his wits end and the the local Honda dealer doesn't seem to have
> a clue as to how to fix the problem.
>
> It's a 1992 Honda Civic hatch, if that's any help. It has less than 40,000
> miles. I don't drive much.
>
> Thanks for reading this far. 8-)
>
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Old 04 Jul 2010, 08:09 am
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Tegger wrote:
> JD<JD@example.invalid> wrote in
> news:jqmdnfwsQtLXmK3RnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@posted.grand ecom:
>
>
>>
>> The local Honda dealer did mention something about the "park
>> inter-lock" acting up but I'm not sure what that is. And they did
>> mention there is some type of "switch" in the distributor that fires
>> the plugs and powers the fuel pump but I'm not sure about that either.
>>

>
>
> Do you have a tachometer?
>
>


The car has one next to the speedometer. I don't have my own.

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Old 04 Jul 2010, 08:13 am
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Default Re: 92 Civic Won't Fire Plugs

The local Honda dealer replaced the rotor head assembly, the distributor
housing and cap assembly when they rebuilt the distributor. I'll ask
them about the pickup and coil unless those are part of the above items.

waybel wrote:
> Check the pickup or coil in the distributor
> "JD"<JD@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:H_2dnfLzKd8EcLLRnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@posted.grand ecom...
>> I don't know a better way to describe the problem.
>>
>> In 2009, I had a loud screeching noise coming from my distributor like the
>> bearings were going bad so the local Honda dealer rebuilt the distributor.
>> Everything seemed to be fine.
>>
>> Six months later, the car would turn the engine but it wouldn't start. It
>> was like there was no power to the spark plugs, however, when I giggled
>> the key in the ignition, it started with no problem.
>>
>> The problem got worse over time but giggling the key in the ignition
>> seemed to fix the problem, temporarily. It might go a week or a month but
>> every time it wouldn't start, giggling the key in the ignition fixed it,
>> again temporarily.
>>
>> Local Honda dealer replaced the ignition switch and problem went away for
>> about three months. But, then it returned.
>>
>> Now the car won't fire the plugs and the local Honda dealer is not sure
>> why. I think it is the rebuilt distributor. The only other item they
>> replaced was the "oil pressure switch."
>>
>> I don't think the problem was the ignition switch but neither myself or
>> the local Honda dealer can figure it out. They have tried new relays and
>> that didn't fix the problem.
>>
>> Any ideas? Or should I just junk this 18 year old Honda and try another
>> brand, like a Mazda CX9?
>>
>> JD is at his wits end and the the local Honda dealer doesn't seem to have
>> a clue as to how to fix the problem.
>>
>> It's a 1992 Honda Civic hatch, if that's any help. It has less than 40,000
>> miles. I don't drive much.
>>
>> Thanks for reading this far. 8-)
>>
>> --
>> JD..

>
>





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Old 04 Jul 2010, 09:08 am
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JD <JD@example.invalid> wrote in
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> Tegger wrote:
>> JD<JD@example.invalid> wrote in
>> news:jqmdnfwsQtLXmK3RnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@posted.grand ecom:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The local Honda dealer did mention something about the "park
>>> inter-lock" acting up but I'm not sure what that is. And they did
>>> mention there is some type of "switch" in the distributor that fires
>>> the plugs and powers the fuel pump but I'm not sure about that either.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Do you have a tachometer?
>>
>>

>
> The car has one next to the speedometer. I don't have my own.
>




When you crank the engine, does the tachometer needle jiggle ever so
slightly, or is it dead-still?


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Old 04 Jul 2010, 10:10 am
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Tegger wrote:
> JD<JD@example.invalid> wrote in
> news:fN2dnetDbLlVGq3RnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@posted.grand ecom:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> JD<JD@example.invalid> wrote in
>>> news:jqmdnfwsQtLXmK3RnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@posted.grand ecom:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The local Honda dealer did mention something about the "park
>>>> inter-lock" acting up but I'm not sure what that is. And they did
>>>> mention there is some type of "switch" in the distributor that fires
>>>> the plugs and powers the fuel pump but I'm not sure about that either.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have a tachometer?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> The car has one next to the speedometer. I don't have my own.
>>

>
>
>
> When you crank the engine, does the tachometer needle jiggle ever so
> slightly, or is it dead-still?
>
>


The car is currently at the dealer. I didn't notice the tach jiggling
when I was cranking the engine but I wasn't really looking for that.
Should it be dead-still when cranking? And what would it mean if it
isn't? I'll certainly pass on any information to the dealer when I talk
to them tomorrow.

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Old 04 Jul 2010, 06:51 pm
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JD <JD@example.invalid> wrote in
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> Tegger wrote:


>>
>> When you crank the engine, does the tachometer needle jiggle ever so
>> slightly, or is it dead-still?
>>
>>

>
> The car is currently at the dealer. I didn't notice the tach jiggling
> when I was cranking the engine but I wasn't really looking for that.
> Should it be dead-still when cranking? And what would it mean if it
> isn't?




If the tach needle is DEAD-STILL when cranking, the igniter is dead.

This is a common failure-point in aftermarket-remanned (or aftermarket-new)
distributor assemblies.




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