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Old 03 Jul 2010, 01:13 pm
condor_222@yahoo.com
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Default Thieves breaking into the rear of the RAV4

Dear RAV4 owners,

I currently have a sedan with a trunk,
where the valuables are locked.
Bicycle (but it's really a tight fit).
Shoulder bag which is always with me.
Cameras. Laptop. Etc.

I'm thinking of getting a RAV4 for the bigger
towing capacity (6 x 12 trailer from UHaul),
and cargo area it has.

But you always see signs at garages, to take the
valuables out of your car. I'm thinking that if
I get a RAV4, I won't be able to leave any
valuables in the "trunk" anymore.

Years ago, a photographer friend of mine had a
station wagon, and parked all her camera gear in
the back. Theives broke in, and stole all the gear.
In broad daylight.

I spoke to a sales rep at a Toyota dealer last night.
He said that there is no privacy cover for
the RAV4, like there is with some hatchbacks.

Does anyone know of an aftermarket cover that is available?

On the other hand, just having a privacy cover
might invite thieves to break in, even if there was
nothing of value.


What are your experience with valuables in the rear
and your RAV4 getting broke into?


If I get a RAV4, do I give up the ability to leave
valuables in the car? I will be travelling to places
I have never been to before, and so I will not
know safe the areas will be.


Other thoughts: If I put the bicycle inside, they
can see that it's a bicycle. Same for a laptop,
or camera. Blankets.

What if I put the valuables in simple apple boxes, and
mark them "charity" or something?

I welcome your experiences and advise.



Key search words: steal, stole, stolen, vandals, vandalism

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Old 03 Jul 2010, 01:21 pm
Gary L. Burnore
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Default Re: Thieves breaking into the rear of the RAV4

On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 11:13:18 -0700 (PDT), condor_222@yahoo.com wrote:

>Dear RAV4 owners,
>
>I currently have a sedan with a trunk,
>where the valuables are locked.
>Bicycle (but it's really a tight fit).
>Shoulder bag which is always with me.
>Cameras. Laptop. Etc.
>
>I'm thinking of getting a RAV4 for the bigger
>towing capacity (6 x 12 trailer from UHaul),
>and cargo area it has.
>
>But you always see signs at garages, to take the
>valuables out of your car. I'm thinking that if
>I get a RAV4, I won't be able to leave any
>valuables in the "trunk" anymore.
>
>Years ago, a photographer friend of mine had a
>station wagon, and parked all her camera gear in
>the back. Theives broke in, and stole all the gear.
>In broad daylight.
>
>I spoke to a sales rep at a Toyota dealer last night.
>He said that there is no privacy cover for
>the RAV4, like there is with some hatchbacks.


Wonder why they stopped making them. Our Rav4 had them. (2006)
>
>Does anyone know of an aftermarket cover that is available?


Google?
>
>On the other hand, just having a privacy cover
>might invite thieves to break in, even if there was
>nothing of value.


Nah. Not usually.
>
>What are your experience with valuables in the rear
>and your RAV4 getting broke into?
>
>
>If I get a RAV4, do I give up the ability to leave
>valuables in the car? I will be travelling to places
>I have never been to before, and so I will not
>know safe the areas will be.


So if you got a sedan and they broke out a window and popped the trunk
from inside the car, you'd still lose it.

>
>
>Other thoughts: If I put the bicycle inside, they
>can see that it's a bicycle. Same for a laptop,
>or camera. Blankets.
>
>What if I put the valuables in simple apple boxes, and
>mark them "charity" or something?


Heh.

>
>I welcome your experiences and advise.
>
>
>
>Key search words: steal, stole, stolen, vandals, vandalism


Search words?
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Old 03 Jul 2010, 01:30 pm
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Default Re: Thieves breaking into the rear of the RAV4

Per condor_222@yahoo.com:
>I spoke to a sales rep at a Toyota dealer last night.
>He said that there is no privacy cover for
>the RAV4, like there is with some hatchbacks.
>
>Does anyone know of an aftermarket cover that is available?


You need one of these: http://tinyurl.com/yesvz92

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Old 03 Jul 2010, 01:39 pm
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Default Re: Thieves breaking into the rear of the RAV4

"Gary L. Burnore" wrote

> So if you got a sedan and they broke out a window and popped the trunk
> from inside the car, you'd still lose it.


Not if the trunk release lever is locked.


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Old 03 Jul 2010, 02:14 pm
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Default Re: Thieves breaking into the rear of the RAV4

In article
<831dbdfe-7f09-4414-b690-94fa0c18b457@w15g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
condor_222@yahoo.com wrote:

> On the other hand, just having a privacy cover
> might invite thieves to break in, even if there was
> nothing of value.


The point of the privacy cover is, they're risking serious consequences
if they gamble wrong, break in, find nothing there, and still get caught.

It's far easier for them to move on to the next victim with a known
quantity--someone who has put camera gear into the back of an uncovered
station wagon, perhaps. Then it's all a known risk, and they'll take
that.
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Old 03 Jul 2010, 02:15 pm
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:39:56 -0400, "Howard Lester"
<howardxtlester@verizon.net> wrote:

>"Gary L. Burnore" wrote
>
>> So if you got a sedan and they broke out a window and popped the trunk
>> from inside the car, you'd still lose it.

>
>Not if the trunk release lever is locked.


Didja ever look at the trunk release lock? Surrounded by plastic, a
simple turn with a screwdriver breaks it. & how about those like my
Lexus with the button in the glove compartment? Oh yeah, that'd be
hard to bust. NOT.


If someone wants your stuff. They're gonna get it.
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Old 03 Jul 2010, 03:53 pm
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<condor_222@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:831dbdfe-7f09-4414-b690-94fa0c18b457@w15g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> I spoke to a sales rep at a Toyota dealer last night.
> He said that there is no privacy cover for
> the RAV4, like there is with some hatchbacks.


Did you actually look inside a RAV4? According to the Toyota web site, the
tonneau cover is optional on base RAV4s, and *standard equipment* on the
higher trim levels, unless you get the third-row seat option.

There's also an under-floor storage bin for compact items:
http://www.toyota.com/img/vehicles/2...nt_image21.jpg

> On the other hand, just having a privacy cover
> might invite thieves to break in, even if there was
> nothing of value.


Most SUVs have heavily tinted windows nowadays. If the vehicle you buy
doesn't, you can always get them tinted. The tonneau cover is really
secondary.

Note: professional thieves will have their "work area" under watch. They
will notice you if you load valuables into the vehicle. Sometimes the
parking garage security guard is in on it as well. So there is a level of
risk regardless of whether you have a sedan or SUV.

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Old 03 Jul 2010, 04:48 pm
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 15:15:46 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> got double secret probation
for writing:

>On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:39:56 -0400, "Howard Lester"
><howardxtlester@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>"Gary L. Burnore" wrote
>>
>>> So if you got a sedan and they broke out a window and popped the trunk
>>> from inside the car, you'd still lose it.

>>
>>Not if the trunk release lever is locked.

>
>Didja ever look at the trunk release lock? Surrounded by plastic, a
>simple turn with a screwdriver breaks it. & how about those like my
>Lexus with the button in the glove compartment? Oh yeah, that'd be
>hard to bust. NOT.
>
>
>If someone wants your stuff. They're gonna get it.


Locks keep honest people honest

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More like proving you're an idiot that can't understand subliminals. Moron.
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Old 03 Jul 2010, 05:29 pm
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Aratzio wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 15:15:46 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
> Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> got double secret probation
> for writing:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:39:56 -0400, "Howard Lester"
>> <howardxtlester@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Gary L. Burnore" wrote
>>>
>>>> So if you got a sedan and they broke out a window and popped the trunk
>>>> from inside the car, you'd still lose it.
>>> Not if the trunk release lever is locked.

>> Didja ever look at the trunk release lock? Surrounded by plastic, a
>> simple turn with a screwdriver breaks it. & how about those like my
>> Lexus with the button in the glove compartment? Oh yeah, that'd be
>> hard to bust. NOT.
>>
>>
>> If someone wants your stuff. They're gonna get it.

>
> Locks keep honest people honest
>

So do Rugers.
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Old 03 Jul 2010, 05:42 pm
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On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:29:51 -0600, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Aratzio wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 15:15:46 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>> Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> got double secret probation
>> for writing:
>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:39:56 -0400, "Howard Lester"
>>> <howardxtlester@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Gary L. Burnore" wrote
>>>>
>>>>> So if you got a sedan and they broke out a window and popped the trunk
>>>>> from inside the car, you'd still lose it.
>>>> Not if the trunk release lever is locked.
>>> Didja ever look at the trunk release lock? Surrounded by plastic, a
>>> simple turn with a screwdriver breaks it. & how about those like my
>>> Lexus with the button in the glove compartment? Oh yeah, that'd be
>>> hard to bust. NOT.
>>>
>>>
>>> If someone wants your stuff. They're gonna get it.

>>
>> Locks keep honest people honest
>>

>So do Rugers.


No, Rugers keep dishonest people honest when they're in close
proximity.
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