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Hey guys,

I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't find
a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All the rear
lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red brake lamp
light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything works, but IT
ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?

Dave

turn your ebrake off

"DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Hey guys,
>
> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't
> find a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All the
> rear lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red brake
> lamp light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything works, but
> IT ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>
> Dave
>

"DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Hey guys,
>
> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I
> couldn't find a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left
> side. All the rear lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the
> little red brake lamp light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as
> everything works, but IT ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>



You've got excessive resistance at one or more locations, which the ECU
reads as a blown bulb. Either a wire is corroded or a socket is.

Better pull all of them out and check all the sockets.



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DaveT wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't find
> a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All the rear
> lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red brake lamp
> light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything works, but IT
> ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>
> Dave

Your car has two sensors for brake lamp failure, one for the left and
one for the right. If I understand your post right, you have now pulled
new wires for the brake lights, and both are supplied from the wire for
the right side. This means that the sensor on the left has no bulb
connected to it, and thus senses this as a brake light failure.

You could probably find a way to disable the brake light warning, but it
is probably easier to dig a little further and see if you can find the
wire for the left side and use that for your left brake light.

Out of curiosity, why did you have to replace the brake light wires?

In addition to what the other posters state....if you use the incorrect bulb
the resistance is not correct and this may indicate a blown bulb...for
future reference.


"DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Hey guys,
>
> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't
> find a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All the
> rear lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red brake
> lamp light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything works, but
> IT ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>
> Dave
>

OK, I think I worded the post wrong. Here it goes again....

I replaced my left side 2-P connector with a ride side 2-P connector
because the left side one was corroded and I couldn't twist the bulb loose
to replace. I went to a junk yard and only found right side ones. So now my
car has 2 right side 2-P connectors. I did change the bulb, but supposedly
it was the correct one. I read on one post that if the bulb is not the
correct one, even though everything works fine the sensors will detect a
difference. Is that true?

I'll definitely check the bulbs tomorrow. What exactly do I have to look
for? What are the proper specs on the bulbs?

"DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:l7QGd.18829$iC4.6380@newssvr30.news.prodigy.c om...
> Hey guys,
>
> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't
> find a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All the
> rear lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red brake
> lamp light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything works, but
> IT ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>
> Dave
>

Is your third brake light bulb out (the one in the rear window) ?

"DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> OK, I think I worded the post wrong. Here it goes again....
>
> I replaced my left side 2-P connector with a ride side 2-P connector
> because the left side one was corroded and I couldn't twist the bulb loose
> to replace. I went to a junk yard and only found right side ones. So now
> my car has 2 right side 2-P connectors. I did change the bulb, but
> supposedly it was the correct one. I read on one post that if the bulb is
> not the correct one, even though everything works fine the sensors will
> detect a difference. Is that true?
>
> I'll definitely check the bulbs tomorrow. What exactly do I have to look
> for? What are the proper specs on the bulbs?
>
> "DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:l7QGd.18829$iC4.6380@newssvr30.news.prodigy.c om...
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't
>> find a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All
>> the rear lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red
>> brake lamp light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything
>> works, but IT ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>

Jafir Elkurd wrote:
>
> Is your third brake light bulb out (the one in the rear window) ?

Good call. According to the wiring diagram, some models run the high
mounted brake light through the lamp failure sensor, others do not even
show the high mounted brake light (I could never figure out the KB, KE,
KF, KG, KP, KQ, KS, KT, KU, KW, KY etc. designations).

chasa@rcn.com wrote:
>
> Honda uses special brake light bulbs because there is a relay coil in
> series with each bulb. I will guess the bulbs see about 9 volts and
> the relay coil sees 3 volts.....together they see 12 volts.
>
> The relays, there is one for each tail light, turn on that red light
> on the dash if they do not sense a properly operating bulb.
>
> Honda tail light bulbs cost more than regular tail light bulbs.

The '92 Accord uses quite ordinary 2057 dual filament bulbs that you can
buy anywhere.

"Normal" relays are designed to have a certain voltage across the coil
(e.g. ~12V for automotive relays). It is desierable with a high coil
resustance for low power draw (fixed voltage => want to minimize current
for low power consumption). The relays in the relays in the lamp failure
units have low resistance coils. They see hefty currents (several amps)
and have small voltage drops across them (fixed current => want to
minimize voltage for low power consumption).

DaveT wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, instead of 2-P connector it's suppose to be 8-P connector....
> "DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:dNmHd.16936$wi2.1465@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> > OK, I think I worded the post wrong. Here it goes again....
> >
> > I replaced my left side 2-P connector with a ride side 2-P connector
> > because the left side one was corroded and I couldn't twist the bulb loose
> > to replace. I went to a junk yard and only found right side ones. So now
> > my car has 2 right side 2-P connectors. I did change the bulb, but
> > supposedly it was the correct one. I read on one post that if the bulb is
> > not the correct one, even though everything works fine the sensors will
> > detect a difference. Is that true?

The left and right connectors are the same, but the wiring is different.
This may be a dumb question, but when you put a right-side connector on
the left side, perhaps some wires were swapped by inadvertently
following the wire colors rather than carefully mapping the wire
locations in the connector?

As for bulbs, if the bulb has a lower power rating than the original
bulb it would draw less current. If the current is too low, the bulb
failure circuit can detect this as a broken bulb. Sylvania lists 2057 as
the correct brake light bulb for the '92 Accord in the US.