Honda Car Forum

DaveT wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't find
> a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All the rear
> lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red brake lamp
> light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything works, but IT
> ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>
> Dave


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The manual says that low brake fluid in the reservoir will turn the lamp
on, even if all else is OK, or am I thinking of another BRAKE lamp?

'Curly'

In the US you are supposed to have KA (49-50 state), KL (California), and in
the old days KH (high altitude). Most of the other designations are
probably European or Asian cars.


"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Jafir Elkurd wrote:
>>
>> Is your third brake light bulb out (the one in the rear window) ?
>
> Good call. According to the wiring diagram, some models run the high
> mounted brake light through the lamp failure sensor, others do not even
> show the high mounted brake light (I could never figure out the KB, KE,
> KF, KG, KP, KQ, KS, KT, KU, KW, KY etc. designations).

I agree.

Every Honda I have ever worked with used bulbs you could buy just about
anywhere. The only bulbs that were special were the ones in the interior,
and you can even find many of those aftermarket.

> The '92 Accord uses quite ordinary 2057 dual filament bulbs that you can
> buy anywhere.
>

motsco_ _ wrote:
>
> DaveT wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't find
> > a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All the rear
> > lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red brake lamp
> > light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything works, but IT
> > ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
> >
> > Dave
>
> ----------------------------
>
> The manual says that low brake fluid in the reservoir will turn the lamp
> on, even if all else is OK, or am I thinking of another BRAKE lamp?
>
> 'Curly'

I believe you are thinking about the "other" brake light. The Accord has
the normal "Brake" light that comes on when the parking brake is on or
when the fluid is low. It also has a "Brake Lamp" light that indicates a
broken brake light bulb

So everyone is pretty much sure it's a thing with the bulbs (which I checked
and both are the 2057 model but one is bigger than the other) and not the
fact that I'm using two right side connectors. So there really is no left
side and right side connector? They both are the same shit?




"DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Hey guys,
>
> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't
> find a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All the
> rear lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red brake
> lamp light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything works, but
> IT ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>
> Dave
>

They have different part numbers. so they are probably different. That is
probably your problem.

Looks like they are about $20 at the dealer.

"DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> So everyone is pretty much sure it's a thing with the bulbs (which I
> checked and both are the 2057 model but one is bigger than the other) and
> not the fact that I'm using two right side connectors. So there really is
> no left side and right side connector? They both are the same shit?
>
>
>
>
> "DaveT" <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:l7QGd.18829$iC4.6380@newssvr30.news.prodigy.c om...
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I recently changed the back left bulb wire on my 92 Accord. I couldn't
>> find a left-side one, so I used a right-side one on the left side. All
>> the rear lights work, but inside the cabin on the dash the little red
>> brake lamp light is on. I know it's no big deal as long as everything
>> works, but IT ANNOYING AS HELL!!! How could I fix this?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>

DaveT <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> So everyone is pretty much sure it's a thing with the bulbs (which I
checked
> and both are the 2057 model but one is bigger than the other) and not the
> fact that I'm using two right side connectors. So there really is no left
> side and right side connector? They both are the same shit?
>
>
Maybe. Do the lamps APPEAR to be the same brightness on driving lights on as
well as brake lights on?

IF NOT, swap the lamps left-for-right; otherwise, forget the following...

Does the brighness difference stay the same? If so, it's not the lamps, so
it's likely wiring. Try reversing the driving and brake light wiring in the
left side. (The socket you changed, correct?)

The reason for the above is there are two filaments in there, and they draw
different currents. If the wrong element in the lamp is wired to the brake
light circuit, it may appear as a failed brake light because it doesn't draw
enough current.

If the difference changes, then it may be the lamps. Try a pair of identical
replacements.

My son drives a '92 Accord and I have had trouble with that red light
on the dash. My son doesn't care about it. If it was my Accord it
would be fixed.
I have a '92 Accord wiring diagram in front of me. It shows 6
grounding points and a current relay in series with each brake light.

First......have someone push on the brakes when the car is in the
dark. get down on your hands and knees and look at each of the 5
lights. Is one of them brighter or less bright? Turn on the tail
lights and look at them with the brakes off and on.

If you have a bad ground, wrong filiments come on.
Four of the tail lights are dual filiment so if a dual filiment bulb
looses it's ground it searches for a ground and three filiments each
see about 4 volts. If you have a ungrounded light and you turn on both
both the tail lights and stop lights, the bulb goes off.

A few months ago, I was trouble shooting the headlights on a friends
car. I got no where untill I moved the car into the shade. It was an
ungrounded light. To troublehoot tail lights I would want it even
darker.

There are two current relay, one with 3 coils and the other with 2
coils......one of these could be the problem.

Have Fun


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:51:20 GMT, "Doug McCrary"
<dougmccrary@spamcop.net> wrote:

>
>DaveT <bgates@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:MjcId.21909$iC4.17776@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
>> So everyone is pretty much sure it's a thing with the bulbs (which I
>checked
>> and both are the 2057 model but one is bigger than the other) and not the
>> fact that I'm using two right side connectors. So there really is no left
>> side and right side connector? They both are the same shit?
>>
>>
>Maybe. Do the lamps APPEAR to be the same brightness on driving lights on as
>well as brake lights on?
>
>IF NOT, swap the lamps left-for-right; otherwise, forget the following...
>
>Does the brighness difference stay the same? If so, it's not the lamps, so
>it's likely wiring. Try reversing the driving and brake light wiring in the
>left side. (The socket you changed, correct?)
>
>The reason for the above is there are two filaments in there, and they draw
>different currents. If the wrong element in the lamp is wired to the brake
>light circuit, it may appear as a failed brake light because it doesn't draw
>enough current.
>
>If the difference changes, then it may be the lamps. Try a pair of identical
>replacements.
>