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Old 24 Dec 2004, 03:50 pm
Shawn
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I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having a hard
time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only had 40,000
miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This problem just started.
And the car cranked over it would cut off. But after about 3 cranks its
starts right up and runs fine. I dont think the guy did his tuneups, but its
only at 40k, Should i run some slick50 through, or could it be the starter?


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Old 24 Dec 2004, 05:46 pm
Jim Yanik
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"Shawn" <luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news90zd.664$Fu4.283@bignews6.bellsouth.net:

> I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having a
> hard time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only had
> 40,000 miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This problem
> just started. And the car cranked over it would cut off. But after
> about 3 cranks its starts right up and runs fine. I dont think the guy
> did his tuneups, but its only at 40k, Should i run some slick50
> through, or could it be the starter?
>
>
>


Perhaps the main relay,that runs the electric fuelpump.
You can resolder the relay circuit board,it may have cracked solder joints.

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Old 24 Dec 2004, 06:28 pm
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
news:Xns95C9BEA0AAF7jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84...
> "Shawn" <luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news90zd.664$Fu4.283@bignews6.bellsouth.net:
>
>> I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having a
>> hard time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only had
>> 40,000 miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This problem
>> just started. And the car cranked over it would cut off. But after
>> about 3 cranks its starts right up and runs fine. I dont think the guy
>> did his tuneups, but its only at 40k, Should i run some slick50
>> through, or could it be the starter?
>>
>>
>>

>
> Perhaps the main relay,that runs the electric fuelpump.
> You can resolder the relay circuit board,it may have cracked solder
> joints.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net


Wouldn't waste the $$ on Slick50. But if it's never had a tune-up I would
at least change the spark plugs. Cheap and easy to do yourself.


-Dave


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Old 24 Dec 2004, 11:06 pm
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heard that the ex's come with platium ngk plugs and last up to 100k, true?
where is the main relay located? I dont know if i said this but it kept
trying to click over, so would that mean the starter is good? but like i
said when it did click over it ran for about 3 sec then shut off?

"Shawn" <luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news90zd.664$Fu4.283@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having a

hard
> time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only had 40,000
> miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This problem just started.
> And the car cranked over it would cut off. But after about 3 cranks its
> starts right up and runs fine. I dont think the guy did his tuneups, but

its
> only at 40k, Should i run some slick50 through, or could it be the

starter?
>
>



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Old 25 Dec 2004, 07:20 am
Michael Pardee
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"Shawn" <luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> heard that the ex's come with platium ngk plugs and last up to 100k, true?
> where is the main relay located? I dont know if i said this but it kept
> trying to click over, so would that mean the starter is good? but like i
> said when it did click over it ran for about 3 sec then shut off?
>

That sounds like a main relay, all right. Start, then quit, is one of the
failure modes. The relay is under the driver's side dash. I've only worked
on the one in my daughter's '93 LX, but in that one it was right above (and
hidden by) the cruise control module - label identifying that big part.

This will explain more http://techauto.tripod.com/

Mike

> "Shawn" <luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news90zd.664$Fu4.283@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having a

> hard
>> time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only had 40,000
>> miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This problem just
>> started.
>> And the car cranked over it would cut off. But after about 3 cranks its
>> starts right up and runs fine. I dont think the guy did his tuneups, but

> its
>> only at 40k, Should i run some slick50 through, or could it be the

> starter?
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 26 Dec 2004, 07:39 pm
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In article <D90zd.664$Fu4.283@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "Shawn"
<luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having a hard
> time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only had 40,000
> miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This problem just started.
> And the car cranked over it would cut off. But after about 3 cranks its
> starts right up and runs fine. I dont think the guy did his tuneups, but its
> only at 40k, Should i run some slick50 through, or could it be the starter?


If you just purchased the vehicle and don't know for sure whether or not
the prior owner has done a tune-up--I would advise you to get a complete
tune-up. Let the mechanic know about your problem and tell him to replace
or repair the main relay. If you don't know any local mechanics, take it
to the local Honda dealership.

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Old 26 Dec 2004, 07:51 pm
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If it comes with the NGK platinum plugs and does not require a tune-up until
100k, then the fact this 40k vehicle never had a tune-up should be
irrelevant. Check the owner's manual to find out if it came with these
plugs.


"Shawn" <luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:wv6zd.212$Ov3.24@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> heard that the ex's come with platium ngk plugs and last up to 100k, true?
> where is the main relay located? I dont know if i said this but it kept
> trying to click over, so would that mean the starter is good? but like i
> said when it did click over it ran for about 3 sec then shut off?
>
> "Shawn" <luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news90zd.664$Fu4.283@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>> I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having a

> hard
>> time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only had 40,000
>> miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This problem just
>> started.
>> And the car cranked over it would cut off. But after about 3 cranks its
>> starts right up and runs fine. I dont think the guy did his tuneups, but

> its
>> only at 40k, Should i run some slick50 through, or could it be the

> starter?
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 27 Dec 2004, 07:59 am
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jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:jason-2612041739520001@pm1-broad-78.snlo.dialup.fix.net:

> In article <D90zd.664$Fu4.283@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "Shawn"
><luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having
>> a hard time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only
>> had 40,000 miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This
>> problem just started. And the car cranked over it would cut off. But
>> after about 3 cranks its starts right up and runs fine. I dont think
>> the guy did his tuneups, but its only at 40k, Should i run some
>> slick50 through, or could it be the starter?

>
> If you just purchased the vehicle and don't know for sure whether or
> not the prior owner has done a tune-up--I would advise you to get a
> complete tune-up. Let the mechanic know about your problem and tell
> him to replace or repair the main relay. If you don't know any local
> mechanics, take it to the local Honda dealership.
>


Yes,pay for a tuneup you may not need,and pay $50 (plus labor) for a relay
that you could resolder yourself.

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 10:22 am
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On 12/24/04 6:28 PM, in article zuidnYQFGfCBKVHcRVn-2A@comcast.com, "Dave L"
<davelieuREMOVE@MEyahoo.com> wrote:

>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
> news:Xns95C9BEA0AAF7jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84...
>> "Shawn" <luvmy96honda@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> news90zd.664$Fu4.283@bignews6.bellsouth.net:
>>
>>> I have a 99 honda accord EX Manual. For some reason my car is having a
>>> hard time starting up, I checked the battery its good. But it only had
>>> 40,000 miles on it. I just bought it about a week ago. This problem
>>> just started. And the car cranked over it would cut off. But after
>>> about 3 cranks its starts right up and runs fine. I dont think the guy
>>> did his tuneups, but its only at 40k, Should i run some slick50
>>> through, or could it be the starter?
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Perhaps the main relay,that runs the electric fuelpump.
>> You can resolder the relay circuit board,it may have cracked solder
>> joints.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik-at-kua.net

>
> Wouldn't waste the $$ on Slick50. But if it's never had a tune-up I would
> at least change the spark plugs. Cheap and easy to do yourself.
>
>
> -Dave
>
>


Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the main relay problem only
relate to early '90s Hondas? I've never heard of it on one this new.

If it only has 40k, its certainly doesn't need a tune-up. It isn't even
time to change the anti-freeze for the first time yet. If it actually
starts and runs for a few seconds, there is nothing wrong with the starter
and putting gunk in the oil isn't going to make anything run.

There was a recall on ignition switches for many Hondas of this vintage.
Enroll in the Honda website owner's link and see if this is one of them.
The symptoms can be similar to what you are experiencing.

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Old 27 Dec 2004, 02:04 pm
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"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer@ieee.org> wrote:
> There was a recall on ignition switches for many Hondas of this
> vintage.
> Enroll in the Honda website owner's link and see if this is one of
> them.
> The symptoms can be similar to what you are experiencing.


I have a '94 Accord LX with almost 200 K miles in it and indeed, at
about 140K I did have an ignition switch problem that manifested itself
similarly. A replacement of the switch fixed the problem but they never
told me that it was a recall issue, so I had to pay for the entire thing
myself. Still, 40 K seems to me too early to see the same problem
showing up though.

Rudy

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