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Old 05 May 2010, 01:21 pm
Bitzer
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Had my '07 Accord which is going off warranty later this month in to the
local dealer this morning for routine maintenance (A-1 level according
to the dash display indicator). After declining all the specially
formulated lotions, potions and additives they "strongly recommend", I
settled into a chair in the customer lounge for the advertised 45
minutes or less.

The service adviser/weasel came in after about 25 minutes, sat down
gently beside me and in a serious voice, asked when was the last time I
changed the cabin air filter. His tone was similar to my doctor
inquiring last week about the date of my last colonoscopy and prostate
exam.

I sheepishly admitted the filter had never been changed and he mentioned
that they were running a springtime special of only $89 to change it. I
said that seemed a lot of money to change a filter and he explained that
it was a special filter in a very difficult location that took a lot of
technician time.

Skeptic that I am, I declined the service. Besides which, the cabin
ventilation is just fine in my car anyway.

While they finished up the car, I went online on my smart phone and
found a YouTube video of a 13 year old kid showing how to change the
Accord filter yourself in less than 5 minutes with no tools.

So on the way home, I picked up a high quality name brand (Purolator)
cabin filter for $11 at the AutoZone and popped it in. Took me about two
minutes.

Dealers!
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Old 05 May 2010, 01:34 pm
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Bitzer wrote:
> Had my '07 Accord which is going off warranty later this month in to the
> local dealer this morning for routine maintenance (A-1 level according
> to the dash display indicator). After declining all the specially
> formulated lotions, potions and additives they "strongly recommend", I
> settled into a chair in the customer lounge for the advertised 45
> minutes or less.
>
> The service adviser/weasel came in after about 25 minutes, sat down
> gently beside me and in a serious voice, asked when was the last time I
> changed the cabin air filter. His tone was similar to my doctor
> inquiring last week about the date of my last colonoscopy and prostate
> exam.
>
> I sheepishly admitted the filter had never been changed and he mentioned
> that they were running a springtime special of only $89 to change it. I
> said that seemed a lot of money to change a filter and he explained that
> it was a special filter in a very difficult location that took a lot of
> technician time.
>
> Skeptic that I am, I declined the service. Besides which, the cabin
> ventilation is just fine in my car anyway.
>
> While they finished up the car, I went online on my smart phone and
> found a YouTube video of a 13 year old kid showing how to change the
> Accord filter yourself in less than 5 minutes with no tools.
>
> So on the way home, I picked up a high quality name brand (Purolator)
> cabin filter for $11 at the AutoZone and popped it in. Took me about two
> minutes.
>
> Dealers!



Many dealer techs have larger hands and slower wits than a 13 year old.
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Old 05 May 2010, 01:34 pm
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Bitzer <bitzer@spam.net> wrote in news:hrsd04$d3s$1@news.albasani.net:


>
> So on the way home, I picked up a high quality name brand (Purolator)
> cabin filter for $11 at the AutoZone and popped it in. Took me about two
> minutes.
>
> Dealers!
>




And it doesn't help one bit that your Owner's Manual (from Honda, not the
dealer) tells you to bring the car in to a dealer for that item to be
replaced.

Honda!


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Old 05 May 2010, 01:37 pm
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News, wrote the following at or about 5/5/2010 1:34 PM:
> Bitzer wrote:


>> So on the way home, I picked up a high quality name brand (Purolator)
>> cabin filter for $11 at the AutoZone and popped it in. Took me about
>> two minutes.
>>
>> Dealers!

>
>
> Many dealer techs have larger hands and slower wits than a 13 year old.



Then they obviously remove the battery in the Accord in order to replace
the lower beam headlamp<g>



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Old 05 May 2010, 02:06 pm
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DDDudley wrote:
> News, wrote the following at or about 5/5/2010 1:34 PM:
>> Bitzer wrote:

>
>>> So on the way home, I picked up a high quality name brand (Purolator)
>>> cabin filter for $11 at the AutoZone and popped it in. Took me about
>>> two minutes.
>>>
>>> Dealers!

>>
>>
>> Many dealer techs have larger hands and slower wits than a 13 year old.

>
>
> Then they obviously remove the battery in the Accord in order to replace
> the lower beam headlamp<g>
>
>
>



Doesn't everyone (who works on the clock)?
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Old 05 May 2010, 02:15 pm
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News, wrote the following at or about 5/5/2010 2:06 PM:
> DDDudley wrote:


>>>
>>> Many dealer techs have larger hands and slower wits than a 13 year old.

>>
>>
>> Then they obviously remove the battery in the Accord in order to
>> replace the lower beam headlamp<g>
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> Doesn't everyone (who works on the clock)?


Ah, read back on my thread on changing out the low beam on the 2006
Accord. Big mitts (and sharp OR dull mind) don't mesh well with Honda's
instructions. Battery removal is the only way to go in IMHO.<g>


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Old 05 May 2010, 08:34 pm
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"DDDudley" <noway@nohow.nowhere> wrote in message
news:4be1c49a$0$18929$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster. com...
> News, wrote the following at or about 5/5/2010 2:06 PM:
>> DDDudley wrote:

>
>>>>
>>>> Many dealer techs have larger hands and slower wits than a 13
>>>> year old.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then they obviously remove the battery in the Accord in order to
>>> replace the lower beam headlamp<g>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Doesn't everyone (who works on the clock)?

>
> Ah, read back on my thread on changing out the low beam on the 2006
> Accord. Big mitts (and sharp OR dull mind) don't mesh well with
> Honda's instructions. Battery removal is the only way to go in
> IMHO.<g>
>
>


'04 is no easier.....


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Old 05 May 2010, 09:09 pm
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In article <hrsd04$d3s$1@news.albasani.net>, Bitzer <bitzer@spam.net>
wrote:

> I sheepishly admitted the filter had never been changed and he mentioned
> that they were running a springtime special of only $89 to change it. I
> said that seemed a lot of money to change a filter and he explained that
> it was a special filter in a very difficult location that took a lot of
> technician time.
>
> Skeptic that I am, I declined the service. Besides which, the cabin
> ventilation is just fine in my car anyway.
>
> While they finished up the car, I went online on my smart phone and
> found a YouTube video of a 13 year old kid showing how to change the
> Accord filter yourself in less than 5 minutes with no tools.
>
> So on the way home, I picked up a high quality name brand (Purolator)
> cabin filter for $11 at the AutoZone and popped it in. Took me about two
> minutes.
>
> Dealers!


yeah, well, not too long ago it WAS a difficult procedure. Over $100,
and is a big pain in the ass in my Odyssey (similar for the same gen
Accord).

I bought a Purolator filter for $20 and, next time I was in for
something, threw it at my tech with a twenty for his trouble. Problem
solved.
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Old 05 May 2010, 09:11 pm
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In article <Xns9D6F94330FA02tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> > So on the way home, I picked up a high quality name brand (Purolator)
> > cabin filter for $11 at the AutoZone and popped it in. Took me about two
> > minutes.
> >
> > Dealers!
> >

>
>
>
> And it doesn't help one bit that your Owner's Manual (from Honda, not the
> dealer) tells you to bring the car in to a dealer for that item to be
> replaced.


Whereas the Prius owner's manual tells you exactly how to do it
yourself--and it's correct.

Not only is it correct, the Prius design makes my 02 Odyssey design look
like it was developed by blind monkeys.

Honda!
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Old 06 May 2010, 07:02 am
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-46825D.22110005052010@news.eternal-september.org:

> In article <Xns9D6F94330FA02tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> > So on the way home, I picked up a high quality name brand
>> > (Purolator) cabin filter for $11 at the AutoZone and popped it in.
>> > Took me about two minutes.
>> >
>> > Dealers!
>> >

>>
>>
>>
>> And it doesn't help one bit that your Owner's Manual (from Honda, not
>> the dealer) tells you to bring the car in to a dealer for that item
>> to be replaced.

>
> Whereas the Prius owner's manual tells you exactly how to do it
> yourself--and it's correct.
>
> Not only is it correct, the Prius design makes my 02 Odyssey design
> look like it was developed by blind monkeys.
>
> Honda!
>



It works both ways. Honda's shop manuals are wonderfully detailed compared
to Toyota's. Toyota has a tendency to leave you to fumble through a lot of
things, providing almost no information other than sort-of where a system
or part is located.


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