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Old 09 Nov 2004, 08:22 am
Adrian
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Default Need advice for purchasing new Honda

Hi,

I'd like to purchase a new Honda, preferably the Civic or Accord Hybrid, but
the 3yr/36000 mi warranty concerns me. I have 2 other other Hondas (90
Accord that I'm selling and, a 96 Civic) and they have been very reliable,
but hybrids are new types of engines, and I don't have any info regarding
their reliability in the long term. Also, I imagine fixing and servicing a
hybrid must be more expensive than the regular type of car.

The Civic Hybrid only has about 100 hp, and I was wondering if this is
enough power for day to day driving - doesn't it feel too sluggish?

I like the 10yr/100k mi warranty on Hyundai, but the milage is putting me
off - a Civic equivalent - Elantra - has the same milage as the Accord.

Anybody would like to comment on these points? Anything else worth knowing
before purchasing one?

I'd appreciate any help,

Adrian


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Old 09 Nov 2004, 11:48 am
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Default Re: Need advice for purchasing new Honda

In article <Ho4kd.40082$QJ3.36227@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> , "Adrian"
<adrian@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to purchase a new Honda, preferably the Civic or Accord Hybrid, but
> the 3yr/36000 mi warranty concerns me. I have 2 other other Hondas (90
> Accord that I'm selling and, a 96 Civic) and they have been very reliable,
> but hybrids are new types of engines, and I don't have any info regarding
> their reliability in the long term. Also, I imagine fixing and servicing a
> hybrid must be more expensive than the regular type of car.
>
> The Civic Hybrid only has about 100 hp, and I was wondering if this is
> enough power for day to day driving - doesn't it feel too sluggish?
>
> I like the 10yr/100k mi warranty on Hyundai, but the milage is putting me
> off - a Civic equivalent - Elantra - has the same milage as the Accord.
>
> Anybody would like to comment on these points? Anything else worth knowing
> before purchasing one?
>
> I'd appreciate any help,
>
> Adrian


I would advise a Honda instead of a Hyundai--they are poorly made and they
have a low resale value. You can pay extra for an extended warranty on
your Honda but it's a waste of money. A Civic Hybrid or Accord Hybrid
would both be excellent options.
Test drive both of them and buy the one you like the best. You should also
consider a 4 cyld. Accord. the Accord Hybrid should have all the power you
need.

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Old 09 Nov 2004, 02:22 pm
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Default Re: Need advice for purchasing new Honda

hybrids have low horse power but extremely high torque. the 127 hp civic
gets 114pounds of torque i beleive, and i know the toyota hybrid gets over
200 foot pounds of torque. So I would say that would make up the
difference. Just go out and test drive one and see what you think.

As for the accord hybrid i do beleive it has faster acceleration then the
non hybrid accord.
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jason-0911040948300001@pm4-broad-1.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <Ho4kd.40082$QJ3.36227@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> , "Adrian"
> <adrian@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to purchase a new Honda, preferably the Civic or Accord Hybrid,
>> but
>> the 3yr/36000 mi warranty concerns me. I have 2 other other Hondas (90
>> Accord that I'm selling and, a 96 Civic) and they have been very
>> reliable,
>> but hybrids are new types of engines, and I don't have any info regarding
>> their reliability in the long term. Also, I imagine fixing and servicing
>> a
>> hybrid must be more expensive than the regular type of car.
>>
>> The Civic Hybrid only has about 100 hp, and I was wondering if this is
>> enough power for day to day driving - doesn't it feel too sluggish?
>>
>> I like the 10yr/100k mi warranty on Hyundai, but the milage is putting me
>> off - a Civic equivalent - Elantra - has the same milage as the Accord.
>>
>> Anybody would like to comment on these points? Anything else worth
>> knowing
>> before purchasing one?
>>
>> I'd appreciate any help,
>>
>> Adrian

>
> I would advise a Honda instead of a Hyundai--they are poorly made and they
> have a low resale value. You can pay extra for an extended warranty on
> your Honda but it's a waste of money. A Civic Hybrid or Accord Hybrid
> would both be excellent options.
> Test drive both of them and buy the one you like the best. You should also
> consider a 4 cyld. Accord. the Accord Hybrid should have all the power you
> need.
>
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Old 09 Nov 2004, 08:11 pm
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You needn't worry about either Honda as far as reliability is concerned.
Hybrid technology is somewhat new, but electric motors and internal
combustion engines are not new and are highly evolved. What is new is
combining these two technologies in a mass production vehicle.
The Accord Hybrid uses the same V-6 motor as in the other Accords, and it's
been around for a number of years and has no reliabilty problem at all. It
is mated with an electric assist motor. Together these two sources of
propulsion produce the most powerful Accord Honda has ever produced.
Electric motors have been around longer than you and I put together. There
is no black magic in these electric motors. The IMA system (Integrated Motor
Assist) used in Honda hybrids is technology that has been around for many a
year. It started in the Honda Insight, and it's development and improvement
has been ongoing for years. The improvements over time time has made the
transition from electric to gas or gas to electric assist seamless. The
transition is so smooth, you'd be challenged to tell which is running.
As for the power in the Civic Hybrid, you'd be surprised if you drove it.
The electric motor will usually always assist when starting from a stop.
Electric motors have high torque and all their torque is available
immediately, from zero rpm up.They are "peppy". Don't let those horsepower
numbers fool you, it's torque and its immediate availability that will give
you the feel of power.
As far as warranty period is concerned, consider this. Why do you think
Hyundai offers a 10 year warranty and Honda, Toyota, Chevy, etc.
don't?...................... Because Hyundai needs it!
Good luck on your new car purchase.
Howard

"Adrian" <adrian@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
news:Ho4kd.40082$QJ3.36227@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to purchase a new Honda, preferably the Civic or Accord Hybrid,

but
> the 3yr/36000 mi warranty concerns me. I have 2 other other Hondas (90
> Accord that I'm selling and, a 96 Civic) and they have been very reliable,
> but hybrids are new types of engines, and I don't have any info regarding
> their reliability in the long term. Also, I imagine fixing and servicing a
> hybrid must be more expensive than the regular type of car.
>
> The Civic Hybrid only has about 100 hp, and I was wondering if this is
> enough power for day to day driving - doesn't it feel too sluggish?
>
> I like the 10yr/100k mi warranty on Hyundai, but the milage is putting me
> off - a Civic equivalent - Elantra - has the same milage as the Accord.
>
> Anybody would like to comment on these points? Anything else worth knowing
> before purchasing one?
>
> I'd appreciate any help,
>
> Adrian
>
>



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Old 09 Nov 2004, 10:10 pm
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Default Re: Need advice for purchasing new Honda

Thanks all for your replies!

"Howard" <Howardh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You needn't worry about either Honda as far as reliability is concerned.
> Hybrid technology is somewhat new, but electric motors and internal
> combustion engines are not new and are highly evolved. What is new is
> combining these two technologies in a mass production vehicle.
> The Accord Hybrid uses the same V-6 motor as in the other Accords, and

it's
> been around for a number of years and has no reliabilty problem at all. It
> is mated with an electric assist motor. Together these two sources of
> propulsion produce the most powerful Accord Honda has ever produced.
> Electric motors have been around longer than you and I put together. There
> is no black magic in these electric motors. The IMA system (Integrated

Motor
> Assist) used in Honda hybrids is technology that has been around for many

a
> year. It started in the Honda Insight, and it's development and

improvement
> has been ongoing for years. The improvements over time time has made the
> transition from electric to gas or gas to electric assist seamless. The
> transition is so smooth, you'd be challenged to tell which is running.
> As for the power in the Civic Hybrid, you'd be surprised if you drove it.
> The electric motor will usually always assist when starting from a stop.
> Electric motors have high torque and all their torque is available
> immediately, from zero rpm up.They are "peppy". Don't let those

horsepower
> numbers fool you, it's torque and its immediate availability that will

give
> you the feel of power.
> As far as warranty period is concerned, consider this. Why do you think
> Hyundai offers a 10 year warranty and Honda, Toyota, Chevy, etc.
> don't?...................... Because Hyundai needs it!
> Good luck on your new car purchase.
> Howard
>
> "Adrian" <adrian@xxx.xxx> wrote in message
> news:Ho4kd.40082$QJ3.36227@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd like to purchase a new Honda, preferably the Civic or Accord Hybrid,

> but
> > the 3yr/36000 mi warranty concerns me. I have 2 other other Hondas (90
> > Accord that I'm selling and, a 96 Civic) and they have been very

reliable,
> > but hybrids are new types of engines, and I don't have any info

regarding
> > their reliability in the long term. Also, I imagine fixing and servicing

a
> > hybrid must be more expensive than the regular type of car.
> >
> > The Civic Hybrid only has about 100 hp, and I was wondering if this is
> > enough power for day to day driving - doesn't it feel too sluggish?
> >
> > I like the 10yr/100k mi warranty on Hyundai, but the milage is putting

me
> > off - a Civic equivalent - Elantra - has the same milage as the Accord.
> >
> > Anybody would like to comment on these points? Anything else worth

knowing
> > before purchasing one?
> >
> > I'd appreciate any help,
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >

>
>



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