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Old 03 Nov 2004, 05:21 pm
Hank
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Default Best Method Of Rust proofing

I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the first snow
fall, which should be any day now!!
I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there method is
the best.
Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of road salt
every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)

Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to have the rust
proofing done it would void your warranty.
This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.


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Old 03 Nov 2004, 06:34 pm
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"Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
>I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the
>first snow fall, which should be any day now!!
> I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming
> there method is the best.
> Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
> I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons
> of road salt every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
>
> Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to
> have the rust proofing done it would void your warranty.
> This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.


Hi there

I am in Ottawa as well and have an new 04 acura RSX. The dealer,
Camco, also told me it would void my warranty if I get it rust
proofed by someone else then Zeibart (they use a wax paste,
apparently). I called Acura who mentioned that this is not true.
The only time that such application would "void" the warranty is,
according to Acura, if they drill holes and the holes rust, or
they drill through electrical components, or they spray stuff
that shorts your connections. These are all possible, but
unlikely, in my opinion.

Because I researched and called a few places, I 've learned a lot
about rust proofing and posted a DIY in this group (or could have
been alt.autos.acura??). I ended up doing it myself with 4 cans
of Rust Check. I took out the door panels and the rear panels
very easily and sprayed liberally in there. I also sprayed in the
rear hatch and front fenders. I did the rear bumber as well. I
think I did a pretty nice job: I sprayed a lot, and ONLY where I
wanted it to go. And I did not have to drill holes in my new
car! I am a believer in having the undercarriage done so I am
going to the cheapest place I can find here and it is at Walmart.
They use a Oilguard and I read good thing about it (they cannot
screw this, can they?). However, I do not trust them to do the
panels, so I am only having them do the undercarriage at the
moment.

Be careful where you go. It is also true that Honda/acura's
rubber seal will be affected by oil based rust proofing products.
They "sag" with applications. I was told that with Krown, **if
you tell them**, they will coat them with silicon which protects
them. On the other hand, wax-based products like Canadian Tire
and Zeibart can/will dry, crack and block drainage holes.

So where does this leave it for you? Well, DIY or, if not, I
guess the best place to get it done here in Ottawa is
Metropolitain Rust Proofing. I trust them more then Krown and
Rust Check.

My 2 canadian cents.


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Old 03 Nov 2004, 10:00 pm
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Default Re: Best Method Of Rust proofing

Next time you do an oil change, recycle it and slather it all over the
underside of the car.


"Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the first snow
> fall, which should be any day now!!
> I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there method is
> the best.
> Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
> I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of road salt
> every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
>
> Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to have the

rust
> proofing done it would void your warranty.
> This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.
>
>



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Old 04 Nov 2004, 03:35 pm
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Default Re: Best Method Of Rust proofing

Frank, thanks for the excellent information
I better get it done real soon. Snow expected tonight.

"Frank" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
>>I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the first snow
>>fall, which should be any day now!!
>> I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there method
>> is the best.
>> Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
>> I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of road
>> salt every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
>>
>> Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to have the
>> rust proofing done it would void your warranty.
>> This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.

>
> Hi there
>
> I am in Ottawa as well and have an new 04 acura RSX. The dealer, Camco,
> also told me it would void my warranty if I get it rust proofed by someone
> else then Zeibart (they use a wax paste, apparently). I called Acura who
> mentioned that this is not true. The only time that such application would
> "void" the warranty is, according to Acura, if they drill holes and the
> holes rust, or they drill through electrical components, or they spray
> stuff that shorts your connections. These are all possible, but unlikely,
> in my opinion.
>
> Because I researched and called a few places, I 've learned a lot about
> rust proofing and posted a DIY in this group (or could have been
> alt.autos.acura??). I ended up doing it myself with 4 cans of Rust Check.
> I took out the door panels and the rear panels very easily and sprayed
> liberally in there. I also sprayed in the rear hatch and front fenders. I
> did the rear bumber as well. I think I did a pretty nice job: I sprayed a
> lot, and ONLY where I wanted it to go. And I did not have to drill holes
> in my new car! I am a believer in having the undercarriage done so I am
> going to the cheapest place I can find here and it is at Walmart. They use
> a Oilguard and I read good thing about it (they cannot screw this, can
> they?). However, I do not trust them to do the panels, so I am only having
> them do the undercarriage at the moment.
>
> Be careful where you go. It is also true that Honda/acura's rubber seal
> will be affected by oil based rust proofing products. They "sag" with
> applications. I was told that with Krown, **if you tell them**, they will
> coat them with silicon which protects them. On the other hand, wax-based
> products like Canadian Tire and Zeibart can/will dry, crack and block
> drainage holes.
>
> So where does this leave it for you? Well, DIY or, if not, I guess the
> best place to get it done here in Ottawa is Metropolitain Rust Proofing. I
> trust them more then Krown and Rust Check.
>
> My 2 canadian cents.
>



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Old 04 Nov 2004, 03:39 pm
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Default Re: Best Method Of Rust proofing

Eigthupman, your Brilliant, just Brilliant!

"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
news:SPhid.43992$hr3.1561821@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Next time you do an oil change, recycle it and slather it all over the
> underside of the car.
>
>
> "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
>> I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the first snow
>> fall, which should be any day now!!
>> I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there method
>> is
>> the best.
>> Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
>> I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of road
>> salt
>> every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
>>
>> Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to have the

> rust
>> proofing done it would void your warranty.
>> This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 04 Nov 2004, 07:10 pm
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Default Re: Best Method Of Rust proofing

And when you have to take it in for warranty work, take it to a car wash,
and remove said road grime.


"Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:iq6dnaJ7DtIfPBfcRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> Eigthupman, your Brilliant, just Brilliant!
>
> "Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
> news:SPhid.43992$hr3.1561821@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> > Next time you do an oil change, recycle it and slather it all over the
> > underside of the car.
> >
> >
> > "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> >> I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the first

snow
> >> fall, which should be any day now!!
> >> I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there method
> >> is
> >> the best.
> >> Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
> >> I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of road
> >> salt
> >> every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
> >>
> >> Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to have the

> > rust
> >> proofing done it would void your warranty.
> >> This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 04 Nov 2004, 10:49 pm
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Default Re: Best Method Of Rust proofing

Please, dispose of motor oil (and other fluids) properly. Left to go down
the drain, they damage your environment, and by means of the cyclical
character of nature, eventually you and your kids.

Eightupman wrote:
| And when you have to take it in for warranty work, take it to a car
| wash, and remove said road grime.
||
||
|| "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:iq6dnaJ7DtIfPBfcRVn-2g@rogers.com...
||| Eigthupman, your Brilliant, just Brilliant!
|||
||| "Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
||| news:SPhid.43992$hr3.1561821@twister.southeast.rr. com...
|||| Next time you do an oil change, recycle it and slather it all over
|||| the underside of the car.
||||
||||
|||| "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|||| news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
||||| I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the
||||| first
|| snow
||||| fall, which should be any day now!!
||||| I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there
||||| method is
||||| the best.
||||| Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
||||| I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of
||||| road salt
||||| every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
|||||
||||| Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to
||||| have the
|||| rust
||||| proofing done it would void your warranty.
||||| This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.


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Old 05 Nov 2004, 02:09 pm
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Default Re: Best Method Of Rust proofing

Brilliant, Eightupman

"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message news:JpAid.41633$Jb.1330527@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> And when you have to take it in for warranty work, take it to a car wash,
> and remove said road grime.
>
>
> "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iq6dnaJ7DtIfPBfcRVn-2g@rogers.com...
>> Eigthupman, your Brilliant, just Brilliant!
>>
>> "Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:SPhid.43992$hr3.1561821@twister.southeast.rr. com...
>> > Next time you do an oil change, recycle it and slather it all over the
>> > underside of the car.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
>> >> I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the first

> snow
>> >> fall, which should be any day now!!
>> >> I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there method
>> >> is
>> >> the best.
>> >> Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
>> >> I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of road
>> >> salt
>> >> every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
>> >>
>> >> Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to have the
>> > rust
>> >> proofing done it would void your warranty.
>> >> This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>

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Old 05 Nov 2004, 04:06 pm
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Really? I like to leave the antifreeze in the drain pan so the stray cats
will drink it and die. Then I take the motor oil, and soak the concrete in
my driveway so the ants will not make nests in the cracks and no weeds will
grow either.

COME ON PEOPLE!!!! I am severely joking here.......


"tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2v0eslF2ep7h1U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Please, dispose of motor oil (and other fluids) properly. Left to go down
> the drain, they damage your environment, and by means of the cyclical
> character of nature, eventually you and your kids.
>
> Eightupman wrote:
> | And when you have to take it in for warranty work, take it to a car
> | wash, and remove said road grime.
> ||
> ||
> || "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> || news:iq6dnaJ7DtIfPBfcRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> ||| Eigthupman, your Brilliant, just Brilliant!
> |||
> ||| "Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:SPhid.43992$hr3.1561821@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> |||| Next time you do an oil change, recycle it and slather it all over
> |||| the underside of the car.
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> |||| news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> ||||| I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the
> ||||| first
> || snow
> ||||| fall, which should be any day now!!
> ||||| I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there
> ||||| method is
> ||||| the best.
> ||||| Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
> ||||| I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of
> ||||| road salt
> ||||| every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
> |||||
> ||||| Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to
> ||||| have the
> |||| rust
> ||||| proofing done it would void your warranty.
> ||||| This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.
>
>



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Old 05 Nov 2004, 04:40 pm
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No, and all this time I thought you were just "Brilliant"

"Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
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> Really? I like to leave the antifreeze in the drain pan so the stray cats
> will drink it and die. Then I take the motor oil, and soak the concrete
> in
> my driveway so the ants will not make nests in the cracks and no weeds
> will
> grow either.
>
> COME ON PEOPLE!!!! I am severely joking here.......
>
>
> "tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:2v0eslF2ep7h1U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> Please, dispose of motor oil (and other fluids) properly. Left to go down
>> the drain, they damage your environment, and by means of the cyclical
>> character of nature, eventually you and your kids.
>>
>> Eightupman wrote:
>> | And when you have to take it in for warranty work, take it to a car
>> | wash, and remove said road grime.
>> ||
>> ||
>> || "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> || news:iq6dnaJ7DtIfPBfcRVn-2g@rogers.com...
>> ||| Eigthupman, your Brilliant, just Brilliant!
>> |||
>> ||| "Eightupman" <eightupman@newemail.com> wrote in message
>> ||| news:SPhid.43992$hr3.1561821@twister.southeast.rr. com...
>> |||| Next time you do an oil change, recycle it and slather it all over
>> |||| the underside of the car.
>> ||||
>> ||||
>> |||| "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> |||| news:VdednQjDe4dL-hTcRVn-3w@rogers.com...
>> ||||| I am thinking of having my 2004 Accord rust proofed before the
>> ||||| first
>> || snow
>> ||||| fall, which should be any day now!!
>> ||||| I find it a bit confusing because so many Co. are claiming there
>> ||||| method is
>> ||||| the best.
>> ||||| Anybody have a opinion on the best method.
>> ||||| I live in a cold snowy climate and the City uses tons & tons of
>> ||||| road salt
>> ||||| every winter.(Ottawa Ontario, Canada.)
>> |||||
>> ||||| Also the Honda salesman stated unless you go through Honda to
>> ||||| have the
>> |||| rust
>> ||||| proofing done it would void your warranty.
>> ||||| This sounds like BS to me. your opinion please.
>>
>>

>
>



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