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hi yall,

i got a question about front struts in a 2001 honda civic. i just
installed the agx by kyb in the front, took it for a test drive, and
noticed a noise in the front passenger side strut which sounded like a
loose spring, or soimething. what could this be? i double checked
all the bolts, etc, they are all in place and tight.

thanks for your advice, recommendations, etc.

tom

fish wrote:
> hi yall,
>
> i got a question about front struts in a 2001 honda civic. i just
> installed the agx by kyb in the front, took it for a test drive, and
> noticed a noise in the front passenger side strut which sounded like a
> loose spring, or soimething. what could this be? i double checked
> all the bolts, etc, they are all in place and tight.
>
> thanks for your advice, recommendations, etc.
>
> tom
>
>
>
Hi,

I got a problem that sound similar with a rsx-s (or honda integra),
which is built very similar to a civic please read to see if it matches
your problem and let me know.

Also let us know if you manage to fix it.
Thnks -john
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Kenny Spencer wrote:

> chk for a broken spring or strut bearing
> ks

Thanks, I will check for that.

I forgot to say that you can only hear the noise when pulling out
of the drive-way or turning around in parking lot. Or playing with the
steering wheel while car is idle.

It doesn't occur while driving nor does it affect handling of the car.
-john
john wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I haven't been around for a while so pleased to be back.
>
> I have a 2002 acura rsx-s which I beleive is still sold under the
honda integra name in Japan and most part of the world.
>
> I had a minor collision and the left strut was taken apart. After
that, I noticed a small noise which grows more important now.
>
> I pinpointed it to the left front strut spring by having somebody
turning the steering wheel while car was idle and putting my hand on the
spring. The noise matches when the strut spring moves a little bit
suddently (it rotates a little in strokes maybe by half an inche or so
max in total, enough to fell it when it does).
>
> I suspect some spring anchor or even wrost some nut is loose
somewhere, I wouldn't want the whole thing to go while driving.
>
> I guess my question is what should I check to make sure the strut
suspension parts have been put back together properly.
>
> Next step: buy the friggin shop manual ;-))
>
> Since dealer made the job in the first place, I would rather find out
by myself. You are never better served than by yourself when it comes to
cars as I have come to learn.
>
> Thank you all,
>
> -john

Just a wild idea, could it be that the spring was mounted upside down?
everything seems well set and tight in my case too.
-john

john wrote:
> fish wrote:
>
>> hi yall,
>>
>> i got a question about front struts in a 2001 honda civic. i just
>> installed the agx by kyb in the front, took it for a test drive, and
>> noticed a noise in the front passenger side strut which sounded like a
>> loose spring, or soimething. what could this be? i double checked
>> all the bolts, etc, they are all in place and tight.
>> thanks for your advice, recommendations, etc.
>>
>> tom
>>
>>
>>
> Hi,
>
> I got a problem that sound similar with a rsx-s (or honda integra),
> which is built very similar to a civic please read to see if it matches
> your problem and let me know.
>
> Also let us know if you manage to fix it.
> Thnks -john
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Kenny Spencer wrote:
>
> > chk for a broken spring or strut bearing
> > ks
>
> Thanks, I will check for that.
>
> I forgot to say that you can only hear the noise when pulling out
> of the drive-way or turning around in parking lot. Or playing with the
> steering wheel while car is idle.
>
> It doesn't occur while driving nor does it affect handling of the car.
> -john
> john wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I haven't been around for a while so pleased to be back.
> >
> > I have a 2002 acura rsx-s which I beleive is still sold under the
> honda integra name in Japan and most part of the world.
> >
> > I had a minor collision and the left strut was taken apart. After
> that, I noticed a small noise which grows more important now.
> >
> > I pinpointed it to the left front strut spring by having somebody
> turning the steering wheel while car was idle and putting my hand on the
> spring. The noise matches when the strut spring moves a little bit
> suddently (it rotates a little in strokes maybe by half an inche or so
> max in total, enough to fell it when it does).
> >
> > I suspect some spring anchor or even wrost some nut is loose
> somewhere, I wouldn't want the whole thing to go while driving.
> >
> > I guess my question is what should I check to make sure the strut
> suspension parts have been put back together properly.
> >
> > Next step: buy the friggin shop manual ;-))
> >
> > Since dealer made the job in the first place, I would rather find out
> by myself. You are never better served than by yourself when it comes to
> cars as I have come to learn.
> >
> > Thank you all,
> >
> > -john

i did fix my problem.

turns out that the top nut that holds the strut piston to the strut
assembly needed another rotation. once that was completed the noise
went away. btw, i was able to duplicate the symptoms by pushing down
on the front bumper, with the hood open, and i saw the nut/piston
shift ever so slightly up and down. but like you, at first i was
jerking around my steering thinking that was the problem. the funny
thing was that i teghtened this nut in my basement and i didnt feel
like it needed a second tightening once it was installed in the car.
i was wrong.

give this a try, if it works for you let us know.

hth,
tom





On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:10:23 -0400, john <rsx1877@mistralaero.com>
wrote:

>
>Just a wild idea, could it be that the spring was mounted upside down?
>everything seems well set and tight in my case too.
>-john
>
>john wrote:
>> fish wrote:
>>
>>> hi yall,
>>>
>>> i got a question about front struts in a 2001 honda civic. i just
>>> installed the agx by kyb in the front, took it for a test drive, and
>>> noticed a noise in the front passenger side strut which sounded like a
>>> loose spring, or soimething. what could this be? i double checked
>>> all the bolts, etc, they are all in place and tight.
>>> thanks for your advice, recommendations, etc.
>>>
>>> tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I got a problem that sound similar with a rsx-s (or honda integra),
>> which is built very similar to a civic please read to see if it matches
>> your problem and let me know.
>>
>> Also let us know if you manage to fix it.
>> Thnks -john
>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Kenny Spencer wrote:
>>
>> > chk for a broken spring or strut bearing
>> > ks
>>
>> Thanks, I will check for that.
>>
>> I forgot to say that you can only hear the noise when pulling out
>> of the drive-way or turning around in parking lot. Or playing with the
>> steering wheel while car is idle.
>>
>> It doesn't occur while driving nor does it affect handling of the car.
>> -john
>> john wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I haven't been around for a while so pleased to be back.
>> >
>> > I have a 2002 acura rsx-s which I beleive is still sold under the
>> honda integra name in Japan and most part of the world.
>> >
>> > I had a minor collision and the left strut was taken apart. After
>> that, I noticed a small noise which grows more important now.
>> >
>> > I pinpointed it to the left front strut spring by having somebody
>> turning the steering wheel while car was idle and putting my hand on the
>> spring. The noise matches when the strut spring moves a little bit
>> suddently (it rotates a little in strokes maybe by half an inche or so
>> max in total, enough to fell it when it does).
>> >
>> > I suspect some spring anchor or even wrost some nut is loose
>> somewhere, I wouldn't want the whole thing to go while driving.
>> >
>> > I guess my question is what should I check to make sure the strut
>> suspension parts have been put back together properly.
>> >
>> > Next step: buy the friggin shop manual ;-))
>> >
>> > Since dealer made the job in the first place, I would rather find out
>> by myself. You are never better served than by yourself when it comes to
>> cars as I have come to learn.
>> >
>> > Thank you all,
>> >
>> > -john

thanks fish,

seems the same here, since things got looser and sound more noticeable,
I can now see slight gap between the nut and the washer by eye without
even moving front bumpmer.

I tryied to tighten the nut but since I do not know if there is any
locking mechanism ( never took a newer civic strut apart before) I did
not want to break anything.

Can I just go ahead an torque the nut?

It seems the strut assembly needs extra tightning to act properly in the
long run, my car did not make that noise rigth after it got out of the
dealer for work the strut. Or even better, re-thighning after a few runs
and after stuff has taken place.

I feel pretty confident you identidfied my problem as well, I will
confirm later
thx,
-john


fish wrote:
> i did fix my problem.
>
> turns out that the top nut that holds the strut piston to the strut
> assembly needed another rotation. once that was completed the noise
> went away. btw, i was able to duplicate the symptoms by pushing down
> on the front bumper, with the hood open, and i saw the nut/piston
> shift ever so slightly up and down. but like you, at first i was
> jerking around my steering thinking that was the problem. the funny
> thing was that i teghtened this nut in my basement and i didnt feel
> like it needed a second tightening once it was installed in the car.
> i was wrong.
>
> give this a try, if it works for you let us know.
>
> hth,
> tom
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:10:23 -0400, john <rsx1877@mistralaero.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Just a wild idea, could it be that the spring was mounted upside down?
>>everything seems well set and tight in my case too.
>>-john
>>
>>john wrote:
>>
>>>fish wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>hi yall,
>>>>
>>>>i got a question about front struts in a 2001 honda civic. i just
>>>>installed the agx by kyb in the front, took it for a test drive, and
>>>>noticed a noise in the front passenger side strut which sounded like a
>>>>loose spring, or soimething. what could this be? i double checked
>>>>all the bolts, etc, they are all in place and tight.
>>>>thanks for your advice, recommendations, etc.
>>>>
>>>>tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I got a problem that sound similar with a rsx-s (or honda integra),
>>>which is built very similar to a civic please read to see if it matches
>>>your problem and let me know.
>>>
>>>Also let us know if you manage to fix it.
>>>Thnks -john
>>>On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Kenny Spencer wrote:
>>>
>>> > chk for a broken spring or strut bearing
>>> > ks
>>>
>>>Thanks, I will check for that.
>>>
>>>I forgot to say that you can only hear the noise when pulling out
>>>of the drive-way or turning around in parking lot. Or playing with the
>>>steering wheel while car is idle.
>>>
>>>It doesn't occur while driving nor does it affect handling of the car.
>>>-john
>>>john wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I haven't been around for a while so pleased to be back.
>>> >
>>> > I have a 2002 acura rsx-s which I beleive is still sold under the
>>>honda integra name in Japan and most part of the world.
>>> >
>>> > I had a minor collision and the left strut was taken apart. After
>>>that, I noticed a small noise which grows more important now.
>>> >
>>> > I pinpointed it to the left front strut spring by having somebody
>>>turning the steering wheel while car was idle and putting my hand on the
>>>spring. The noise matches when the strut spring moves a little bit
>>>suddently (it rotates a little in strokes maybe by half an inche or so
>>>max in total, enough to fell it when it does).
>>> >
>>> > I suspect some spring anchor or even wrost some nut is loose
>>>somewhere, I wouldn't want the whole thing to go while driving.
>>> >
>>> > I guess my question is what should I check to make sure the strut
>>>suspension parts have been put back together properly.
>>> >
>>> > Next step: buy the friggin shop manual ;-))
>>> >
>>> > Since dealer made the job in the first place, I would rather find out
>>>by myself. You are never better served than by yourself when it comes to
>>>cars as I have come to learn.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you all,
>>> >
>>> > -john
>
>

John,

good, let me know how it turns out. torque that nut down to about 20
ft/lbs, i think, but make sure you hold the shock piston rod still
using an allen key or small wrench, what ever your application
requires.



On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:23:32 -0400, john <rsx1877@mistralaero.com>
wrote:

>
>thanks fish,
>
>seems the same here, since things got looser and sound more noticeable,
>I can now see slight gap between the nut and the washer by eye without
>even moving front bumpmer.
>
>I tryied to tighten the nut but since I do not know if there is any
>locking mechanism ( never took a newer civic strut apart before) I did
>not want to break anything.
>
>Can I just go ahead an torque the nut?
>
>It seems the strut assembly needs extra tightning to act properly in the
>long run, my car did not make that noise rigth after it got out of the
>dealer for work the strut. Or even better, re-thighning after a few runs
>and after stuff has taken place.
>
>I feel pretty confident you identidfied my problem as well, I will
>confirm later
>thx,
>-john
>
>
>fish wrote:
>> i did fix my problem.
>>
>> turns out that the top nut that holds the strut piston to the strut
>> assembly needed another rotation. once that was completed the noise
>> went away. btw, i was able to duplicate the symptoms by pushing down
>> on the front bumper, with the hood open, and i saw the nut/piston
>> shift ever so slightly up and down. but like you, at first i was
>> jerking around my steering thinking that was the problem. the funny
>> thing was that i teghtened this nut in my basement and i didnt feel
>> like it needed a second tightening once it was installed in the car.
>> i was wrong.
>>
>> give this a try, if it works for you let us know.
>>
>> hth,
>> tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:10:23 -0400, john <rsx1877@mistralaero.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just a wild idea, could it be that the spring was mounted upside down?
>>>everything seems well set and tight in my case too.
>>>-john
>>>
>>>john wrote:
>>>
>>>>fish wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hi yall,
>>>>>
>>>>>i got a question about front struts in a 2001 honda civic. i just
>>>>>installed the agx by kyb in the front, took it for a test drive, and
>>>>>noticed a noise in the front passenger side strut which sounded like a
>>>>>loose spring, or soimething. what could this be? i double checked
>>>>>all the bolts, etc, they are all in place and tight.
>>>>>thanks for your advice, recommendations, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I got a problem that sound similar with a rsx-s (or honda integra),
>>>>which is built very similar to a civic please read to see if it matches
>>>>your problem and let me know.
>>>>
>>>>Also let us know if you manage to fix it.
>>>>Thnks -john
>>>>On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Kenny Spencer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > chk for a broken spring or strut bearing
>>>> > ks
>>>>
>>>>Thanks, I will check for that.
>>>>
>>>>I forgot to say that you can only hear the noise when pulling out
>>>>of the drive-way or turning around in parking lot. Or playing with the
>>>>steering wheel while car is idle.
>>>>
>>>>It doesn't occur while driving nor does it affect handling of the car.
>>>>-john
>>>>john wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > I haven't been around for a while so pleased to be back.
>>>> >
>>>> > I have a 2002 acura rsx-s which I beleive is still sold under the
>>>>honda integra name in Japan and most part of the world.
>>>> >
>>>> > I had a minor collision and the left strut was taken apart. After
>>>>that, I noticed a small noise which grows more important now.
>>>> >
>>>> > I pinpointed it to the left front strut spring by having somebody
>>>>turning the steering wheel while car was idle and putting my hand on the
>>>>spring. The noise matches when the strut spring moves a little bit
>>>>suddently (it rotates a little in strokes maybe by half an inche or so
>>>>max in total, enough to fell it when it does).
>>>> >
>>>> > I suspect some spring anchor or even wrost some nut is loose
>>>>somewhere, I wouldn't want the whole thing to go while driving.
>>>> >
>>>> > I guess my question is what should I check to make sure the strut
>>>>suspension parts have been put back together properly.
>>>> >
>>>> > Next step: buy the friggin shop manual ;-))
>>>> >
>>>> > Since dealer made the job in the first place, I would rather find out
>>>>by myself. You are never better served than by yourself when it comes to
>>>>cars as I have come to learn.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you all,
>>>> >
>>>> > -john
>>
>>