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"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
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> When poorly executed, as it often is, it blinds other drivers on the road.

Perhaps it is the general lack of concern executed by vehicle drivers, that
is the cause of the blinding glare. For example, the improperly loaded trunk
or pickup bed, that has the vehicle's lights aimed higher than legally
permitted.

--
Brian

Did you ever notice, that; the Roman Numerals for forty (40) are XL?

"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> 1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed at
> JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(

Isn't that the truth. Makes you wonder what exactly the drivers are looking
for when their lights are aimed at the treetops.

--
Brian

4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions

RWM wrote:
> Yep, I wish that NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare
> produced by poorly designed OEM headlight system optics and beam
> cutoffs, and that local licensing authorities paid even closer attention
> to poor aiming and inappropriate mounting and use of fog/driving lights,
> especially those "kewl" overwattage bulbs/inserts/capsules.


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I get a charge out of watching cars go bye on the highway in a snow
storm or fog.... They look like they're trying to communicate with the
'mother-ship' by pointing one headlight into the upper reaches of the
atmosphere:-)

'Cruly'

Brian Smith wrote:
| "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
| news:41794892.3020802@interbaun.com...
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|| 1/4 of the vehicles on the road seem to have one headlight pointed
|| at JUPITER. That could be part of the problem to begin with. . :-(
|
| Isn't that the truth. Makes you wonder what exactly the drivers are
| looking for when their lights are aimed at the treetops.

Their ape relatives, perhaps?

"tomb" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Their ape relatives, perhaps?

LOL! That could be the answer.

And how much is the discount that GEICO offers for DRL in % or $?

"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message news:41785BBA.5080508@RWMann.com...
> Be that generalization as it may, my carrier (not AAA) does, and is now
> doing so on our other car.
>
> Larry wrote:
>
> >To be honest, other than AAA, I no of no other insurance carrier offering
a
> >discount for DRL's. I'd assume there may be a couple more out there, but
> >the insurance industry in general does not offer that discount.
> >
> >
> >"RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> >>Timothy J. Lee wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM <RWM@RWMann.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced
voltage
> >>>>as DRLs?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Just make it a habit to turn on the low beam headlamps all the time if
> >>>you want DRLs. Don't use the high beams, because they can annoy other
> >>>drivers with excessive glare in low light conditions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Sadly, good habits in this area don't yield insurance discounts.
> >>
> >>

RWM wrote:
> I wish NHTSA paid as much attention to the blinding glare produced by
> poorly designed headlight systems, beam cutoffs, aiming and
> inappropriate use of fog lights and "kewl" overwattage
> bulbs/inserts/capsules.

Wholly agreed. Particularly in dark country areas, I often have a very
difficult time seeing my side of the road when someone with about 10M
candle-power shooting off their front bumper comes along in the opposite
direction. At least with my power mirrors I can simply aim them down
when they run up behind me...

The big lie about DRL's being safe. It's proven that they don't do any
good.

http://www.motorists.com/stealthis/lightsoff.html


"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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> "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
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>> It is stupid that an insurance company would give a discount for
>> something
>> that has no proven benefits. Also, high beam DRL's are stupid because
>> the
>> aiming of the light puts it right at eye level of other road users. Even
>> at reduced voltage, it is annoying.
>
> No proven benefits? You haven't read very much (if anything) on the
> subject.
> Years of testing were done in may countries, before DRLs were developed.
>
> --
> Brian
>
> Ever stop to think... and forget to start again?
>
>

Here is a bit of text regarding DRL's from the following website.

The first, last and only large scale U.S. study that has been completed and
published on the effects of DRLs as safety devices, was conducted by the
insurance industry supported Highway Loss Data Institute. The results;
vehicles equipped with DRLs were involved in more accidents than similar
vehicles without DRLs. The difference was minimal. but the meaning was
strait forward, DRLs aggravate other motorists, obscure directional lights,
waste fuel, "mask" other road users that don't have headlights on, or don't
have headlights period (pedestrians and bicyclists) and their net effect on
accident reduction is zero or worse.

http://www.motorists.com/stealthis/lightsoff.html


"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <41764E33.1000505@RWMann.com>, RWM@RWMann.com says...
>>Is there an OEM relay, say from a Canadian spec CR-V, that can enable a
>>DRL function on a US spec car?
>>How about best aftermarket kit to burn the high beams at reduced voltage
>>as DRLs?
>
> The obvious question is why bother? When the conditions warrant it, you
> can
> reach over and turn on your low beams. High beams are reduced voltage are
> a very stupid idea.
> ---------------
> Alex
>
>

For the Highway Loss Data Institute's ** actual ** position on DRLs,
see: http://www.iihs.org/safety_facts/qanda/drl.htm

Numerous insurance companies offer discounts for their use... Think
about it.


me wrote:

>The big lie about DRL's being safe. It's proven that they don't do any
>good.
>
>