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Old 20 Sep 2004, 12:44 pm
Michelle
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Default 2003 Civic Veering to the Right - Possible Causes?

Hi there,

A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem
was, so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.

When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel,
the car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I have
to actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the steering wheel
to the left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I can turn the
steering wheel, let go, and the steering wheel will stay where I left
it. If I do the same thing on a left turn, it will pull quickly to the
right.

Can anyone think of a reason for this?
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Old 20 Sep 2004, 01:35 pm
Robert
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Default Re: 2003 Civic Veering to the Right - Possible Causes?

My CR-V does the same. It is designed that way.

"Michelle" <mb@cacaface.net> wrote in message
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> Hi there,
>
> A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem was,
> so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
>
> When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel, the
> car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I have to
> actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the steering wheel to the
> left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I can turn the steering wheel,
> let go, and the steering wheel will stay where I left it. If I do the same
> thing on a left turn, it will pull quickly to the right.
>
> Can anyone think of a reason for this?



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Old 20 Sep 2004, 03:32 pm
E. Meyer
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Default Re: 2003 Civic Veering to the Right - Possible Causes?

On 9/20/04 12:35 PM, in article rxE3d.11474$Qb.6307@fe2.texas.rr.com,
"Robert" <rsvn@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My CR-V does the same. It is designed that way.
>
> "Michelle" <mb@cacaface.net> wrote in message
> news:414f093a$1_4@news3.es.net...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem was,
>> so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
>>
>> When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel, the
>> car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I have to
>> actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the steering wheel to the
>> left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I can turn the steering wheel,
>> let go, and the steering wheel will stay where I left it. If I do the same
>> thing on a left turn, it will pull quickly to the right.
>>
>> Can anyone think of a reason for this?

>
>


If the car doesn't go straight, the possible causes are alignment, bad
tire(s), air pressure difference between the front tires, or a high crown in
the road.

First make sure the air pressure is the same in both front tires. One PSI
difference is enough to make the car start favoring one side over the other.
Find a flat road and test it.

If that checks out, try swapping the front tires and see if it then starts
to pull to the left. If it still pulls right after swapping the tires (and
the road is flat), then find a different mechanic and get the alignment
checked again - something is out of spec in the suspension.

Have them check the rear as well as the front (you usually have to
specifically ask them to check the rear). Misalignment of the rear wheels
can also cause a drift to one side or the other. My last two Hondas both
had alignment issues in the right rear.

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Old 20 Sep 2004, 04:35 pm
curly12
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Default Re: 2003 Civic Veering to the Right - Possible Causes?

Brakes dragging can cause a pull to one side or another as well.

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
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> On 9/20/04 12:35 PM, in article rxE3d.11474$Qb.6307@fe2.texas.rr.com,
> "Robert" <rsvn@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > My CR-V does the same. It is designed that way.
> >
> > "Michelle" <mb@cacaface.net> wrote in message
> > news:414f093a$1_4@news3.es.net...
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem

was,
> >> so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
> >>
> >> When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel,

the
> >> car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I have to
> >> actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the steering wheel to

the
> >> left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I can turn the steering

wheel,
> >> let go, and the steering wheel will stay where I left it. If I do the

same
> >> thing on a left turn, it will pull quickly to the right.
> >>
> >> Can anyone think of a reason for this?

> >
> >

>
> If the car doesn't go straight, the possible causes are alignment, bad
> tire(s), air pressure difference between the front tires, or a high crown

in
> the road.
>
> First make sure the air pressure is the same in both front tires. One PSI
> difference is enough to make the car start favoring one side over the

other.
> Find a flat road and test it.
>
> If that checks out, try swapping the front tires and see if it then starts
> to pull to the left. If it still pulls right after swapping the tires

(and
> the road is flat), then find a different mechanic and get the alignment
> checked again - something is out of spec in the suspension.
>
> Have them check the rear as well as the front (you usually have to
> specifically ask them to check the rear). Misalignment of the rear wheels
> can also cause a drift to one side or the other. My last two Hondas both
> had alignment issues in the right rear.
>



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Old 20 Sep 2004, 06:57 pm
E. Meyer
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Default Re: 2003 Civic Veering to the Right - Possible Causes?


True. Unusual on a car this new though.

On 9/20/04 3:35 PM, in article I4Cx71.GzB@news.boeing.com, "curly12"
<curly12@msn.com> wrote:

> Brakes dragging can cause a pull to one side or another as well.
>
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD749A7E.9DAFE%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>> On 9/20/04 12:35 PM, in article rxE3d.11474$Qb.6307@fe2.texas.rr.com,
>> "Robert" <rsvn@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My CR-V does the same. It is designed that way.
>>>
>>> "Michelle" <mb@cacaface.net> wrote in message
>>> news:414f093a$1_4@news3.es.net...
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem

> was,
>>>> so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
>>>>
>>>> When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel,

> the
>>>> car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I have to
>>>> actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the steering wheel to

> the
>>>> left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I can turn the steering

> wheel,
>>>> let go, and the steering wheel will stay where I left it. If I do the

> same
>>>> thing on a left turn, it will pull quickly to the right.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone think of a reason for this?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> If the car doesn't go straight, the possible causes are alignment, bad
>> tire(s), air pressure difference between the front tires, or a high crown

> in
>> the road.
>>
>> First make sure the air pressure is the same in both front tires. One PSI
>> difference is enough to make the car start favoring one side over the

> other.
>> Find a flat road and test it.
>>
>> If that checks out, try swapping the front tires and see if it then starts
>> to pull to the left. If it still pulls right after swapping the tires

> (and
>> the road is flat), then find a different mechanic and get the alignment
>> checked again - something is out of spec in the suspension.
>>
>> Have them check the rear as well as the front (you usually have to
>> specifically ask them to check the rear). Misalignment of the rear wheels
>> can also cause a drift to one side or the other. My last two Hondas both
>> had alignment issues in the right rear.
>>

>
>


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Old 20 Sep 2004, 11:08 pm
jim beam
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Default Re: 2003 Civic Veering to the Right - Possible Causes?

what a load of used buffalo food. - absolutely incorrect. take it to a
competent shop and get a 4 wheel alignment. and keep taking it back
till they get it right.

Robert wrote:
> My CR-V does the same. It is designed that way.
>
> "Michelle" <mb@cacaface.net> wrote in message
> news:414f093a$1_4@news3.es.net...
>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem was,
>>so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
>>
>>When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel, the
>>car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I have to
>>actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the steering wheel to the
>>left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I can turn the steering wheel,
>>let go, and the steering wheel will stay where I left it. If I do the same
>>thing on a left turn, it will pull quickly to the right.
>>
>>Can anyone think of a reason for this?

>
>
>


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Old 20 Sep 2004, 11:10 pm
jim beam
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Default Re: 2003 Civic Veering to the Right - Possible Causes?

you need a new mechanic. your car needs a 4 wheel alignment.

Michelle wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem
> was, so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
>
> When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel,
> the car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I have
> to actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the steering wheel
> to the left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I can turn the
> steering wheel, let go, and the steering wheel will stay where I left
> it. If I do the same thing on a left turn, it will pull quickly to the
> right.
>
> Can anyone think of a reason for this?


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Old 21 Sep 2004, 08:38 am
Larry B.
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Default Re: 2003 Civic Veering to the Right - Possible Causes?

Perhaps the car needs an alignment but it is probably within specs. One
cause could be that most roads have some kind of camber (crowned in the
middle) and your car is following the natural curvature of the road. This
can be compensated for in the alignment to some degree.

Just a thought

Larry B.

jim beam wrote:
> you need a new mechanic. your car needs a 4 wheel alignment.
>
> Michelle wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem
>> was, so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
>>
>> When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel,
>> the car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I
>> have to actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the
>> steering wheel to the left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I
>> can turn the steering wheel, let go, and the steering wheel will
>> stay where I left it. If I do the same thing on a left turn, it will
>> pull quickly to the right.
>>
>> Can anyone think of a reason for this?



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Old 21 Sep 2004, 09:46 am
jim beam
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wishbone suspension like the 2000 civic & earlier is well known for
following camber. mcpherson, like the 2001 & later is not. indeed,
that's probably the /only/ excuse for using what is essentially a cheap
inferior suspension cludge.

keep taking it back until the alignment shop gets it right. a frequent
problem is that when the sensors just get slapped onto the rims, they
don't get positioned quite right. likewise, the wheels should be
rotated with sensors on so the machine can calibrate and allow for any
run-out in the rim. 2mm run-out is within spec. that's greater than
the tolerance on alignment, so you can see how to get false readings if
the job's not done right.

Larry B. wrote:
> Perhaps the car needs an alignment but it is probably within specs. One
> cause could be that most roads have some kind of camber (crowned in the
> middle) and your car is following the natural curvature of the road. This
> can be compensated for in the alignment to some degree.
>
> Just a thought
>
> Larry B.
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>you need a new mechanic. your car needs a 4 wheel alignment.
>>
>>Michelle wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>
>>>A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem
>>>was, so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
>>>
>>>When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel,
>>>the car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I
>>>have to actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the
>>>steering wheel to the left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I
>>>can turn the steering wheel, let go, and the steering wheel will
>>>stay where I left it. If I do the same thing on a left turn, it will
>>>pull quickly to the right.
>>>
>>>Can anyone think of a reason for this?

>
>
>


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Old 23 Sep 2004, 08:01 pm
PT
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Did you bought it new?
It sounds like an accidented car...not sure .
I've heard stories about that that once a car has actual frame damage it
will mostly be impossible to brign it back to factory specs.But again i
might be wrong.
Good luck!
"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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> wishbone suspension like the 2000 civic & earlier is well known for
> following camber. mcpherson, like the 2001 & later is not. indeed,
> that's probably the /only/ excuse for using what is essentially a cheap
> inferior suspension cludge.
>
> keep taking it back until the alignment shop gets it right. a frequent
> problem is that when the sensors just get slapped onto the rims, they
> don't get positioned quite right. likewise, the wheels should be
> rotated with sensors on so the machine can calibrate and allow for any
> run-out in the rim. 2mm run-out is within spec. that's greater than
> the tolerance on alignment, so you can see how to get false readings if
> the job's not done right.
>
> Larry B. wrote:
> > Perhaps the car needs an alignment but it is probably within specs. One
> > cause could be that most roads have some kind of camber (crowned in the
> > middle) and your car is following the natural curvature of the road.

This
> > can be compensated for in the alignment to some degree.
> >
> > Just a thought
> >
> > Larry B.
> >
> > jim beam wrote:
> >
> >>you need a new mechanic. your car needs a 4 wheel alignment.
> >>
> >>Michelle wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi there,
> >>>
> >>>A mechanic recently looked at my car, and could find what the problem
> >>>was, so the following isn't due wheel alignment, balancing, whatever.
> >>>
> >>>When I'm driving in a straight line and let go of the steering wheel,
> >>>the car starts to veer to the right. To drive in a straight line, I
> >>>have to actually use (a tiny, tiny bit of) force to push the
> >>>steering wheel to the left. When I'm on a long turn to the right, I
> >>>can turn the steering wheel, let go, and the steering wheel will
> >>>stay where I left it. If I do the same thing on a left turn, it will
> >>>pull quickly to the right.
> >>>
> >>>Can anyone think of a reason for this?

> >
> >
> >

>



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