Honda Car Forum


 

Go Back   Honda Car Forum - Accord Parts Civic Tuning Acura Racing > Honda Acura > Honda 2

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 08:23 am
Guy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default gasoline

Just wondering ... I recall in the older cars they used to say to use
87 octane but once in a while use 91 octance on occasion. Is this
still valid or is going with a lifetime of 87 octane no different say
in 2003 or newer Hondas (say Toyotas too) ?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 08:48 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

In article <mv91k51v19kairgbt7lmqp6p1jum3ahhm7@4ax.com>,
"Guy" <void@void.com> wrote:

> Just wondering ... I recall in the older cars they used to say to use
> 87 octane but once in a while use 91 octance on occasion. Is this
> still valid or is going with a lifetime of 87 octane no different say
> in 2003 or newer Hondas (say Toyotas too) ?


I think that was because in the older days, when the older cars were
around, the fuel vendors put more cleaners into the higher octane fuels
as a way to market the higher octane (higher priced) fuels.

So "use 91 octane every now and then" was actually "use a fuel cleaner
every now and then".

About 15-20 years ago, the feds came out with minimum standards for
cleaners in fuels--so that even the lowest octane fuels now have a
decent set of cleaning additives.

No need to use a higher octane fuel anymore.

HOWEVER: that's not to say that all fuels are the same. Please notice
this web site:

http://www.toptiergas.com/

http://www.toptiergas.com/why.html

It's intended to be a standard that exceeds the federal standards.

I can tell you from personal measurements that Shell gasoline is cheaper
to run than anything else I have available around here. Sure it's a
couple of pennies more expensive per gallon, but the benefits are clear
to my by actual measurement of cost of gas per mile over a long period
of time.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 09:00 am
jim beam
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

On 01/03/2010 06:23 AM, Guy wrote:
> Just wondering ... I recall in the older cars they used to say to use
> 87 octane but once in a while use 91 octance on occasion. Is this
> still valid or is going with a lifetime of 87 octane no different say
> in 2003 or newer Hondas (say Toyotas too) ?


so you still haven't bothered to read your $25,000 owner's manual...
why am i not surprised? [rhetorical]

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 09:05 am
Guy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:00:29 -0800, jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 01/03/2010 06:23 AM, Guy wrote:
>> Just wondering ... I recall in the older cars they used to say to use
>> 87 octane but once in a while use 91 octance on occasion. Is this
>> still valid or is going with a lifetime of 87 octane no different say
>> in 2003 or newer Hondas (say Toyotas too) ?

>
>so you still haven't bothered to read your $25,000 owner's manual...
>why am i not surprised? [rhetorical]



Are you still missing some bolts and nuts ? Your name and type person
together says you are.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 09:32 am
Brian Smith
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

On 1/3/2010 11:05 AM, Guy wrote:
>
> Are you still missing some bolts and nuts ? Your name and type person
> together says you are.


Block the twit and get on with your uninterrupted life, quietly. :^)
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 09:46 am
jim beam
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

On 01/03/2010 07:32 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
> On 1/3/2010 11:05 AM, Guy wrote:
>>
>> Are you still missing some bolts and nuts ? Your name and type person
>> together says you are.

>
> Block the twit and get on with your uninterrupted life, quietly. :^)



quietly enough to stop asking dumb-ass questions hopefully.

Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 09:48 am
AZ Nomad
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:23:04 -0600, Guy <void@void.com> wrote:
>Just wondering ... I recall in the older cars they used to say to use
>87 octane but once in a while use 91 octance on occasion. Is this
>still valid or is going with a lifetime of 87 octane no different say
>in 2003 or newer Hondas (say Toyotas too) ?


It was never valid. Use octane to allow a greater compression ratio
and reduce pinging. It's not good for anything else.

Perhaps the idea was to use a higher quality gas, with improved
detergents, every now and then.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 10:05 am
Guy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:48:48 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <mv91k51v19kairgbt7lmqp6p1jum3ahhm7@4ax.com>,
> "Guy" <void@void.com> wrote:
>
>> Just wondering ... I recall in the older cars they used to say to use
>> 87 octane but once in a while use 91 octance on occasion. Is this
>> still valid or is going with a lifetime of 87 octane no different say
>> in 2003 or newer Hondas (say Toyotas too) ?

>
>I think that was because in the older days, when the older cars were
>around, the fuel vendors put more cleaners into the higher octane fuels
>as a way to market the higher octane (higher priced) fuels.
>
>So "use 91 octane every now and then" was actually "use a fuel cleaner
>every now and then".
>
>About 15-20 years ago, the feds came out with minimum standards for
>cleaners in fuels--so that even the lowest octane fuels now have a
>decent set of cleaning additives.
>
>No need to use a higher octane fuel anymore.
>
>HOWEVER: that's not to say that all fuels are the same. Please notice
>this web site:
>
>http://www.toptiergas.com/
>
>http://www.toptiergas.com/why.html
>
>It's intended to be a standard that exceeds the federal standards.
>
>I can tell you from personal measurements that Shell gasoline is cheaper
>to run than anything else I have available around here. Sure it's a
>couple of pennies more expensive per gallon, but the benefits are clear
>to my by actual measurement of cost of gas per mile over a long period
>of time.



Appreciate the help. I know for my new CR-V, 87 is all that is
required. I read and asked when I purchased it but I still wondered
if the old rule in this new Honda could still apply. For a while I
did this for my 2003 when it was new and in the last year or so did
not and I can't tell any difference.... no knocks, pings or whatever.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 12:52 pm
Tegger
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

"Guy" <void@void.com> wrote in news:mv91k51v19kairgbt7lmqp6p1jum3ahhm7@
4ax.com:

> Just wondering ... I recall in the older cars they used to say to use
> 87 octane but once in a while use 91 octance on occasion. Is this
> still valid




You're going back to the '70s on that, I'm sure.



> or is going with a lifetime of 87 octane no different say
> in 2003 or newer Hondas (say Toyotas too) ?




A lifetme of whatever the manual specifies is just fine. Modern gasolines
and fuel systems are far advanced fom the '70s.

There's no harm in most vehicles in using an octane higher than
recommended, so if it makes you feel better to use 91 on occasion, go
ahead.

I suppose there could be a few cars on the road where the use of any octane
higher than specified is forbidden, but that would be made VERY plain in
the Owner's Manual.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03 Jan 2010, 01:08 pm
AZ Nomad
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: gasoline

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:00:29 -0800, jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>On 01/03/2010 06:23 AM, Guy wrote:
>> Just wondering ... I recall in the older cars they used to say to use
>> 87 octane but once in a while use 91 octance on occasion. Is this
>> still valid or is going with a lifetime of 87 octane no different say
>> in 2003 or newer Hondas (say Toyotas too) ?


>so you still haven't bothered to read your $25,000 owner's manual...
>why am i not surprised? [rhetorical]


You're such an asshole. Why would his owner's manual include 70's
folklore?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Top Tier Gasoline Bionic Man Honda 2 13 30 Nov 2009 11:12 pm
Re: Top Tier Gasoline C. E. White Honda 2 0 18 Nov 2009 07:26 am
Re: Top Tier Gasoline Bionic Man Honda 2 2 17 Nov 2009 07:38 pm
Can You Really Run Your Car on Water Instead of Gasoline? jenneylist@gmail.com Honda 2 10 22 Apr 2009 07:26 pm
Regarding gasoline for Honda CR-V EX.? qiuyu f Honda Technical 3 29 Aug 2007 05:34 pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:41 am.


Attribution:
Honda News | Autoblog
Powered by Yahoo Answers




Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 © 2011, Crawlability, Inc.
HondaCarForum.com is not affiliated with Honda Motor Company in any way. Honda Motor Company does not sponsor, support, or endorse HondaCarForum.com in any way. Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended or implied.