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Old 06 Sep 2004, 02:14 am
Andrew J. Rozsa
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Default '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?

Wife drives a '03 Accord V6. She is annoyed about some of the
"features." I could not find any information in the Manual that could
help her.

1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
the remote control;
2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver
door for a prolonged period of time;
3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote
and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound
or no sound at all;
4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is
concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off -
she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to
attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not
clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option.

I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not
that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for
everything.

Please help.

TIA

Best,

Andrew

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Old 06 Sep 2004, 09:06 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?

In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>,
Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote:

> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
> the remote control;


Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be,
look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure
you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked
the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?




> 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver
> door for a prolonged period of time;


See above. On my Honda van, the interior lights go out after 3 or so
minutes. That's a FEATURE, not a problem; it's outlined in that owner's
manual you seem to want to avoid.



> 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote
> and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound
> or no sound at all;


See above. You know that owner's manual? It's pretty clear on all of
this stuff. Let me ask you: why is she clicking on the remote a second
time? There's no need; the first click locks the car. The
only--ONLY--reason for clicking a second time is to get the horn to beep
for confirmation that the doors are locked and the alarm system is
active. The second click does nothing more. If she simply wants the
car to lock silently, she should click the remote once. If she doesn't
want the horn to beep, she shouldn't click it as second time at all.

What does she *think* she's getting with that second click?




> 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is
> concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off -
> she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to
> attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not
> clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option.


What does the owner's manual say?

I sound like your mother here, a broken record.



> I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not
> that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for
> everything.


How did you find out about that "programming for everything"?

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Old 06 Sep 2004, 10:29 am
E. Meyer
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Default Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?

On 9/6/04 1:14 AM, in article 000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com,
"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote:

> Wife drives a '03 Accord V6. She is annoyed about some of the
> "features." I could not find any information in the Manual that could
> help her.
>
> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
> the remote control;


That sounds like a bug in the system. She should have the dealer look at
it. It is an intentional feature that when you first unlock the doors with
the remote, if a door (any door) is not opened within 20 seconds, they will
automatically re-lock, but that doesn't sound like the problem she is
having.

> 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver
> door for a prolonged period of time;
> 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote
> and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound
> or no sound at all;


The alarm activates the first time you push the lock button. The horn
sounding on the second press is only for the purpose of reassuring yourself
that it heard you the first time. Tell her to only push it once if she
doesn't want to hear the horn. I don't see where there is a problem here.
This is a pretty well thought out feature and lets you have it pretty much
both ways (horn or no horn).

> 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is
> concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off -
> she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to
> attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not
> clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option.
>


I agree this is an irritating quirk of the Honda Nav systems. Nothing can
be done about it. It is probably the only thing about the nav where Nissan
had a better idea - they have a display on/off button that blacks it out at
any time.

> I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not
> that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for
> everything.
>
> Please help.
>
> TIA
>
> Best,
>
> Andrew


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Old 06 Sep 2004, 11:28 am
Honda Doc
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Default Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?

All these things are normal operation. She can turn off the Navi, just read
the manual.


"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote in message
news:000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com...
> Wife drives a '03 Accord V6. She is annoyed about some of the
> "features." I could not find any information in the Manual that could
> help her.
>
> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
> the remote control;
> 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver
> door for a prolonged period of time;
> 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote
> and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound
> or no sound at all;
> 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is
> concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off -
> she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to
> attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not
> clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option.
>
> I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not
> that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for
> everything.
>
> Please help.
>
> TIA
>
> Best,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
>
>
> Birmingham, Alabama, USA
> rozsa@usa.invalid



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Old 07 Sep 2004, 02:30 am
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
8F439D.09063606092004@text.usenetserver.com:

> In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>,
> Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote:
>
>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
>> the remote control;

>
> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be,
> look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
> information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure
> you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked
> the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
>


Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without
locking it.
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Old 07 Sep 2004, 05:47 am
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Default Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?

mine did that the other day,but yesterday after golfing I noticed it was
unlocked when we returned to put out clubs away.
Hmmm...not that got me curious.
"Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.16 7...
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> 8F439D.09063606092004@text.usenetserver.com:
>
> > In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>,
> > Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
> >> the remote control;

> >
> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be,
> > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure
> > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked
> > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
> >

>
> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away

without
> locking it.



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Old 07 Sep 2004, 06:46 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
> >> the remote control;

> >
> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be,
> > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure
> > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked
> > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
> >

>
> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without
> locking it.


That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.

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Old 07 Sep 2004, 08:47 am
Randy Hunt
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In article <elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com>,
elmop@nastydesigns.com says...
> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
> > >> the remote control;
> > >
> > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be,
> > > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
> > > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure
> > > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked
> > > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
> > >

> >
> > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without
> > locking it.

>
> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.
>
>

I have a 2000 that will relock itself if I don't open the door after
unlocking it with in 30 seconds. Does it do this with the key in the
ignition? It's not suppose to active with the key in the ignition.

Randy
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Old 07 Sep 2004, 09:08 am
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote

> > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away

without
> > locking it.


> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.


Sad, but some will do this. I once drove a rental Grand Prix in 1999 and it
did just that. It was *very* frustrating, especially since it had no remote.






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Old 07 Sep 2004, 10:18 pm
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating
>>>> the remote control;
>>>
>>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always
>>> be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive
>>> information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make
>>> sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never
>>> even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is?
>>>

>>
>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away
>> without locking it.

>
> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock
> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part.


My 04 will relock itself if it is unlocked and the door is not opened in
about 1 minute. Even if I lower the windows.....


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