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Old 04 Sep 2004, 10:18 pm
Fish
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Default 1998 honda civic motor rotation

hello folks.

has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates on
acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below
the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can
imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any
chance?

thx.
fish.


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Old 05 Sep 2004, 10:38 am
Fish
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Default Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation

I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have
experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite a
bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work including
replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda accord.
Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor mounts?
And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others?

thanks again.
fish


"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> hello folks.
>
> has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates

on
> acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below
> the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can
> imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
> damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any
> chance?
>
> thx.
> fish.
>
>



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Old 05 Sep 2004, 11:31 am
jim beam
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Default Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation

the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock
the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's
faulty.

would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the
transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic
[detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the
motor mounts.

Fish wrote:
> I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have
> experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite a
> bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work including
> replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda accord.
> Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor mounts?
> And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others?
>
> thanks again.
> fish
>
>
> "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
>
>>hello folks.
>>
>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates

>
> on
>
>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below
>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can
>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any
>>chance?
>>
>>thx.
>>fish.
>>
>>

>
>
>


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Old 05 Sep 2004, 11:37 am
Fish
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Default Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation

Jim,

excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in on
the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of the
engine? i got a feeling its on the top.

I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i drive
straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid.

thank you.
tom


"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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> the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock
> the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's
> faulty.
>
> would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the
> transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic
> [detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the
> motor mounts.
>
> Fish wrote:
> > I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have
> > experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite

a
> > bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work

including
> > replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda

accord.
> > Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor

mounts?
> > And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others?
> >
> > thanks again.
> > fish
> >
> >
> > "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> >
> >>hello folks.
> >>
> >>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic

rotates
> >
> > on
> >
> >>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just

below
> >>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you

can
> >>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
> >>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any
> >>chance?
> >>
> >>thx.
> >>fish.
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>



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Old 05 Sep 2004, 11:54 am
jim beam
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Default Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation

it's on the bottom, way at the back. it's a bit of a p.i.t.a. to get
to, but is doable. the one thing that may be a problem is the big bolt
in the center of the mount. there's not a lot of rotation room - it's
really designed for air tool access from what i can see.

there are also two small mounts on each side at the front, but they are
more like bump stops than proper mounts. thye have some adjustment so
you can try adjusting the positon of these a bit, but check the rear first.

Fish wrote:
> Jim,
>
> excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in on
> the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of the
> engine? i got a feeling its on the top.
>
> I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i drive
> straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid.
>
> thank you.
> tom
>
>
> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
> news:2tKdnTxpFfPIoqbcRVn-sA@comcast.com...
>
>>the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock
>>the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's
>>faulty.
>>
>>would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the
>>transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic
>>[detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the
>>motor mounts.
>>
>>Fish wrote:
>>
>>>I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have
>>>experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite

>
> a
>
>>>bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work

>
> including
>
>>>replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda

>
> accord.
>
>>>Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor

>
> mounts?
>
>>>And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others?
>>>
>>>thanks again.
>>>fish
>>>
>>>
>>>"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>hello folks.
>>>>
>>>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic

>
> rotates
>
>>>on
>>>
>>>
>>>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just

>
> below
>
>>>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you

>
> can
>
>>>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
>>>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any
>>>>chance?
>>>>
>>>>thx.
>>>>fish.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>


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Old 05 Sep 2004, 02:56 pm
Fish
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Default Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation

jim beam,

thanks for the tips and encouragement. i will definitely perform this
inspection and likely the repair also.

tom



"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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> it's on the bottom, way at the back. it's a bit of a p.i.t.a. to get
> to, but is doable. the one thing that may be a problem is the big bolt
> in the center of the mount. there's not a lot of rotation room - it's
> really designed for air tool access from what i can see.
>
> there are also two small mounts on each side at the front, but they are
> more like bump stops than proper mounts. thye have some adjustment so
> you can try adjusting the positon of these a bit, but check the rear

first.
>
> Fish wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in

on
> > the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of

the
> > engine? i got a feeling its on the top.
> >
> > I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i

drive
> > straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid.
> >
> > thank you.
> > tom
> >
> >
> > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
> > news:2tKdnTxpFfPIoqbcRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> >
> >>the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock
> >>the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's
> >>faulty.
> >>
> >>would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the
> >>transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic
> >>[detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the
> >>motor mounts.
> >>
> >>Fish wrote:
> >>
> >>>I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have
> >>>experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do

quite
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work

> >
> > including
> >
> >>>replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda

> >
> > accord.
> >
> >>>Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor

> >
> > mounts?
> >
> >>>And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others?
> >>>
> >>>thanks again.
> >>>fish
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>hello folks.
> >>>>
> >>>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic

> >
> > rotates
> >
> >>>on
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just

> >
> > below
> >
> >>>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you

> >
> > can
> >
> >>>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
> >>>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by

any
> >>>>chance?
> >>>>
> >>>>thx.
> >>>>fish.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >

>



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Old 05 Sep 2004, 08:36 pm
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Default Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation

Another way of testing is to start engine, put the car in drive, press on
the brake and give it some gas while someone is watching under the hood. If
you see more than 2 or 3 inches of rngine rock or movement, Jim Beam is
correct. Replace rear motor mount.
Good luck,
Howard
"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> hello folks.
>
> has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates

on
> acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below
> the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can
> imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
> damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any
> chance?
>
> thx.
> fish.
>
>



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Old 05 Sep 2004, 08:53 pm
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perfect. i have seen just that. i had an assistant rev the engine slightly
and the engine rocked quite a bit. it seems like a simple project to
replace the inside of that rear mount, [relatively to other projects i have
done], so thanks for the confirmation howard.

its my understanding that the rear mount can be repaired by replacing the
insert, is this your understanding howard? or, do i need to replace the
whole mount? looking at this picture in the link provided below, can you
tell me what item number is the rear mount?

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...+ENGINE+MOUNTS

tom

"Howard" <howardh1951at@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0aP_c.21512$Np2.17690@bignews4.bellsouth.net. ..
> Another way of testing is to start engine, put the car in drive, press on
> the brake and give it some gas while someone is watching under the hood.

If
> you see more than 2 or 3 inches of rngine rock or movement, Jim Beam is
> correct. Replace rear motor mount.
> Good luck,
> Howard
> "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > hello folks.
> >
> > has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic

rotates
> on
> > acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just

below
> > the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you

can
> > imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
> > damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any
> > chance?
> >
> > thx.
> > fish.
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 05 Sep 2004, 09:13 pm
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item 3.

Fish wrote:
> perfect. i have seen just that. i had an assistant rev the engine slightly
> and the engine rocked quite a bit. it seems like a simple project to
> replace the inside of that rear mount, [relatively to other projects i have
> done], so thanks for the confirmation howard.
>
> its my understanding that the rear mount can be repaired by replacing the
> insert, is this your understanding howard? or, do i need to replace the
> whole mount? looking at this picture in the link provided below, can you
> tell me what item number is the rear mount?
>
> http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...+ENGINE+MOUNTS
>
> tom
>
> "Howard" <howardh1951at@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0aP_c.21512$Np2.17690@bignews4.bellsouth.net. ..
>
>>Another way of testing is to start engine, put the car in drive, press on
>>the brake and give it some gas while someone is watching under the hood.

>
> If
>
>>you see more than 2 or 3 inches of rngine rock or movement, Jim Beam is
>>correct. Replace rear motor mount.
>>Good luck,
>>Howard
>>"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com. ..
>>
>>>hello folks.
>>>
>>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic

>
> rotates
>
>>on
>>
>>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just

>
> below
>
>>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you

>
> can
>
>>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
>>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any
>>>chance?
>>>
>>>thx.
>>>fish.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>


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Old 05 Sep 2004, 09:21 pm
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cool, thx.


"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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> item 3.
>
> Fish wrote:
> > perfect. i have seen just that. i had an assistant rev the engine

slightly
> > and the engine rocked quite a bit. it seems like a simple project to
> > replace the inside of that rear mount, [relatively to other projects i

have
> > done], so thanks for the confirmation howard.
> >
> > its my understanding that the rear mount can be repaired by replacing

the
> > insert, is this your understanding howard? or, do i need to replace the
> > whole mount? looking at this picture in the link provided below, can

you
> > tell me what item number is the rear mount?
> >
> >

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...+ENGINE+MOUNTS
> >
> > tom
> >
> > "Howard" <howardh1951at@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:0aP_c.21512$Np2.17690@bignews4.bellsouth.net. ..
> >
> >>Another way of testing is to start engine, put the car in drive, press

on
> >>the brake and give it some gas while someone is watching under the hood.

> >
> > If
> >
> >>you see more than 2 or 3 inches of rngine rock or movement, Jim Beam is
> >>correct. Replace rear motor mount.
> >>Good luck,
> >>Howard
> >>"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com. ..
> >>
> >>>hello folks.
> >>>
> >>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic

> >
> > rotates
> >
> >>on
> >>
> >>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just

> >
> > below
> >
> >>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you

> >
> > can
> >
> >>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a
> >>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by

any
> >>>chance?
> >>>
> >>>thx.
> >>>fish.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>



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