Honda Car Forum

Hi guys,

I went down to the dealership today like a good boy and
asked for Honda Coolant. They asked if I was 'Type 1'
or 'Type 2'. I had no idea, so I told them I have a 98
Civic LX. They said 'OK you are Type 2' and gave me NAPA
coolant.

I asked 'Why the difference??' and they said that the newer
models were supposed to use Type 2, which is Honda Premix,
but that in my car I didn't need that.

The NAPA fluid is has low (or no) silicate, and is
phosphate free, so I guess it'll do the trick.

Any comments though?

t

Go with the pre mix as I did because my dealer said thats all they carry
anymore. Its great no more mixing with hard water.

Tom
"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:c86ded1967aaf11b1a8e7d9be8ebd8e9@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Hi guys,
>
> I went down to the dealership today like a good boy and
> asked for Honda Coolant. They asked if I was 'Type 1'
> or 'Type 2'. I had no idea, so I told them I have a 98
> Civic LX. They said 'OK you are Type 2' and gave me NAPA
> coolant.
>
> I asked 'Why the difference??' and they said that the newer
> models were supposed to use Type 2, which is Honda Premix,
> but that in my car I didn't need that.
>
> The NAPA fluid is has low (or no) silicate, and is
> phosphate free, so I guess it'll do the trick.
>
> Any comments though?
>
> t
>
>

"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:z4wVc.507$YJ4.6555
@news.uswest.net:

> Go with the pre mix as I did because my dealer said thats all they
carry
> anymore. Its great no more mixing with hard water.
>
> Tom
> "disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
> news:c86ded1967aaf11b1a8e7d9be8ebd8e9@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I went down to the dealership today like a good boy and
>> asked for Honda Coolant. They asked if I was 'Type 1'
>> or 'Type 2'. I had no idea, so I told them I have a 98
>> Civic LX. They said 'OK you are Type 2' and gave me NAPA
>> coolant.
>>
>> I asked 'Why the difference??' and they said that the newer
>> models were supposed to use Type 2, which is Honda Premix,
>> but that in my car I didn't need that.
>>
>> The NAPA fluid is has low (or no) silicate, and is
>> phosphate free, so I guess it'll do the trick.
>>
>> Any comments though?
>>
>> t
>>
>>
>
>
>

Yeah, and it only costs 4x much

disallow wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I went down to the dealership today like a good boy and
> asked for Honda Coolant. They asked if I was 'Type 1'
> or 'Type 2'. I had no idea, so I told them I have a 98
> Civic LX. They said 'OK you are Type 2' and gave me NAPA
> coolant.
>
> I asked 'Why the difference??' and they said that the newer
> models were supposed to use Type 2, which is Honda Premix,
> but that in my car I didn't need that.
>
> The NAPA fluid is has low (or no) silicate, and is
> phosphate free, so I guess it'll do the trick.
>
> Any comments though?
>
=======================

Just don't dilute it with anything other than distilled or Reverse
Osmosis water. Tap water eats stuff when heated above boiling.

'Curly'

really? 4x

Cdn tire coolant $10
Honda Coolant $15

Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.

Chris

_chris_ wrote:
> really? 4x
>
> Cdn tire coolant $10
> Honda Coolant $15
>
> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>
> Chris

Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under
contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda" antifreeze
specifications are much different from, say a Prestone brand, are pretty
low.

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
> _chris_ wrote:
> > really? 4x
> >
> > Cdn tire coolant $10
> > Honda Coolant $15
> >
> > Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
> >
> > Chris
>
> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under
> contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda" antifreeze
> specifications are much different from, say a Prestone brand, are pretty
> low.

Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as possible.

The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from Prestone is,
IMO, pretty high.

This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own experience
with green Prestone.

I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I know I'm
rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after what I'd call an
extremely thorough flush)
and all's well.

I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at night pay
the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.

Caroline wrote:
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>> _chris_ wrote:
>>> really? 4x
>>>
>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>
>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under
>> contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>> brand, are pretty low.
>
> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
> possible.
>
> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>
> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
> experience with green Prestone.
>
> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I know
> I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after what I'd
> call an extremely thorough flush)
> and all's well.
>
> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at
> night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.

Unless someone can show me that:

1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other industry
standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)

I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a minimum
standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to. Honda oil is
probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........

I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.

On 8/21/04 2:43 PM, in article yBNVc.164401$8_6.1710@attbi_s04, "L Alpert"
<alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote:

> Caroline wrote:
>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote
>>> _chris_ wrote:
>>>> really? 4x
>>>>
>>>> Cdn tire coolant $10
>>>> Honda Coolant $15
>>>>
>>>> Oh Last time I checked HONDA only fluids except oil are recommended.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Honda fluids are more then likely made by another manufacturer under
>>> contract and labeled as Honda. The probability that "Honda"
>>> antifreeze specifications are much different from, say a Prestone
>>> brand, are pretty low.
>>
>> Just chiming in so that the marketplace of ideas is as efficient as
>> possible.
>>
>> The probability that Honda antifreeze specs are much different from
>> Prestone is, IMO, pretty high.
>>
>> This is based on a lot of reading here at the newsgroup and my own
>> experience with green Prestone.
>>
>> I am currently using Havoline Dex cool (the orange stuff), but I know
>> I'm rolling the dice. Almost two years with the stuff (after what I'd
>> call an extremely thorough flush)
>> and all's well.
>>
>> I recommend anyone not handy with cars and who wants to sleep well at
>> night pay the extra money and go with the Honda anti-freeze.
>
> Unless someone can show me that:
>
> 1. Honda systems are vastly different from the rest auto industry
> 2. That the actual specs of their fluids are different then other industry
> standards (DOT 3 brake fluid, antifreeze, oils)
>
> I would not purchase Honda specific fluids. 5-20 weight oil has a minimum
> standard specification that the industry needs to adhere to. Honda oil is
> probably manufactured by Mobile or Quaker State........
>
> I sleep just fine with off the shelf antifreeze.
>
>

Enough people have experienced premature water pump self-destruction by
using green Prestone that there should be little or no doubt remaining.

I don't understand why people will spend ten of thousands of dollars on a
machine and then refuse to follow the manufacturer's recommendations for
maintaining it.

_chris_ wrote:
>
> really? 4x
>
> Cdn tire coolant $10
> Honda Coolant $15
>

My local dealer has Honda premix for $12.78/gal.

Eric