Honda Car Forum

Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> :

>
>
>
>On 11/10/09 6:21 AM, in article
>BNudnTtGC46AxmTXnZ2dnUVZ_hFi4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Groups.Name>
>wrote:
>
>> Dillon Pyron wrote:
>>> Thus spake TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> :
>>>
<major snip>

>>
>> The CR-V is s short wheelbase, stiffly sprung car that is quite darty
>> and busy on the highway, especially over expansion joints.
>
>Speaking as a CR-V owner, I don't agree with those assertions, at least not
>when comparing the CR-V to other SUVs. The CR-V rides much more car-like
>than my Pathfinder and I don't know what you mean by "darty". We've driven
>it cross country several times at sustained highway speeds, 70 to 80 MPH.
>It drives straight effortlessly. Nothing "darty" about it.

The CR-V is "darty" and "skittish" mainly due to it's short WB. Which
is more noticeable on grooved roads. But the above two terms are
relative. What is "darty" to one person may be "quick" to another. I
road race for a guy who changes the WB of the car (Atlantic) depending
on the track. Long, gentle track, long wheelbase. Tight, twisty
track, short WB.

>
>My only two complaints are the road noise (its tire noise transmitted
>through the suspension, not wind) and the too small gas tank, both of which
>seem to be Honda traits, not just with the CR-V.
>
>>
>> Great on back roads though, and around town, as a hauler.
>
>That I agree with. Most versatile enclosed vehicle (open pickup still wins
>this category) I've owned.
>
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Always shoot first. At the very least you'll
distract the guy enough to make the second one count"
-- Lazurus Long

Dillon Pyron wrote:
> Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> :
>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/09 6:21 AM, in article
>> BNudnTtGC46AxmTXnZ2dnUVZ_hFi4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Groups.Name>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dillon Pyron wrote:
>>>> Thus spake TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> :
>>>>
> <major snip>
>
>>> The CR-V is s short wheelbase, stiffly sprung car that is quite darty
>>> and busy on the highway, especially over expansion joints.
>> Speaking as a CR-V owner, I don't agree with those assertions, at least not
>> when comparing the CR-V to other SUVs. The CR-V rides much more car-like
>> than my Pathfinder and I don't know what you mean by "darty". We've driven
>> it cross country several times at sustained highway speeds, 70 to 80 MPH.
>> It drives straight effortlessly. Nothing "darty" about it.
>
> The CR-V is "darty" and "skittish" mainly due to it's short WB. Which
> is more noticeable on grooved roads. But the above two terms are
> relative. What is "darty" to one person may be "quick" to another. I
> road race for a guy who changes the WB of the car (Atlantic) depending
> on the track. Long, gentle track, long wheelbase. Tight, twisty
> track, short WB.
>
>> My only two complaints are the road noise (its tire noise transmitted
>> through the suspension, not wind) and the too small gas tank, both of which
>> seem to be Honda traits, not just with the CR-V.
>>
>>> Great on back roads though, and around town, as a hauler.
>> That I agree with. Most versatile enclosed vehicle (open pickup still wins
>> this category) I've owned.
>>


Safe to say he wouldn't choose the SWB F-Atlantic for use on an Interstate.

On 15 Nov 2009 06:40:44 GMT, Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com>
wrote:

>On 2009-11-14, TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> "C. E. White" wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>> got a sun roof, a fancy radio, and other stuff she didn't care about.
>> This pushed the price up
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Yea, sunroof; who thought that was ever a good idea?
>> I will not buy a car with glass, fixed or moveable, mounted on a
>> horizontal surface.
>
>Different strokes, I suppose. I won't buy a car without a sunroof.
>
>I smoke cigars and pipes, and the sunroof is excellent at removing
>smoke without bringing in too much wind.
>
>And I've never had a factory-installed sunroof give me a problem of
>any kind...



How do these sunroofs hold up to a hail storm like in Texas ?

Thus spake News <News@Groups.Name> :

>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>> Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> :
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/09 6:21 AM, in article
>>> BNudnTtGC46AxmTXnZ2dnUVZ_hFi4p2d@speakeasy.net, "News" <News@Groups.Name>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dillon Pyron wrote:
>>>>> Thus spake TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> :
>>>>>
>> <major snip>
>>
>>>> The CR-V is s short wheelbase, stiffly sprung car that is quite darty
>>>> and busy on the highway, especially over expansion joints.
>>> Speaking as a CR-V owner, I don't agree with those assertions, at least not
>>> when comparing the CR-V to other SUVs. The CR-V rides much more car-like
>>> than my Pathfinder and I don't know what you mean by "darty". We've driven
>>> it cross country several times at sustained highway speeds, 70 to 80 MPH.
>>> It drives straight effortlessly. Nothing "darty" about it.
>>
>> The CR-V is "darty" and "skittish" mainly due to it's short WB. Which
>> is more noticeable on grooved roads. But the above two terms are
>> relative. What is "darty" to one person may be "quick" to another. I
>> road race for a guy who changes the WB of the car (Atlantic) depending
>> on the track. Long, gentle track, long wheelbase. Tight, twisty
>> track, short WB.
>>
>>> My only two complaints are the road noise (its tire noise transmitted
>>> through the suspension, not wind) and the too small gas tank, both of which
>>> seem to be Honda traits, not just with the CR-V.
>>>
>>>> Great on back roads though, and around town, as a hauler.
>>> That I agree with. Most versatile enclosed vehicle (open pickup still wins
>>> this category) I've owned.
>>>
>
>
>Safe to say he wouldn't choose the SWB F-Atlantic for use on an Interstate.

Nope. Speaking of long WB, back in the mid-70s when I was drag
racing, a particularly long fueler was 220-230 inches. Now they run
over 300. Fuel Aletered had roughly 115 inch WB and were incredible
to watch.

No, SWB would scare me.

TOTALLY OT speaking of short wheel base on the street


--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Get a shot off fast. This upsets him long enough to
let you make your second shot perfect."

-- Lazurus Long

On 11/17/09 10:27 AM, in article ojj5g5pqg9rsgi85l2shgotgg251mitbe1@4ax.com,
"Guy" <void@void.com> wrote:

> On 15 Nov 2009 06:40:44 GMT, Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2009-11-14, TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>> "C. E. White" wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> got a sun roof, a fancy radio, and other stuff she didn't care about.
>>> This pushed the price up
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Yea, sunroof; who thought that was ever a good idea?
>>> I will not buy a car with glass, fixed or moveable, mounted on a
>>> horizontal surface.
>>
>> Different strokes, I suppose. I won't buy a car without a sunroof.
>>
>> I smoke cigars and pipes, and the sunroof is excellent at removing
>> smoke without bringing in too much wind.
>>
>> And I've never had a factory-installed sunroof give me a problem of
>> any kind...
>
>
>
> How do these sunroofs hold up to a hail storm like in Texas ?

Just as well as the tinfoil thin roofs do (and windshields and back windows,
etc).

On 2009-11-17, Guy <void@void.com> wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2009 06:40:44 GMT, Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 2009-11-14, TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>> "C. E. White" wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> got a sun roof, a fancy radio, and other stuff she didn't care about.
>>> This pushed the price up
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Yea, sunroof; who thought that was ever a good idea?
>>> I will not buy a car with glass, fixed or moveable, mounted on a
>>> horizontal surface.
>>
>>Different strokes, I suppose. I won't buy a car without a sunroof.
>>
>>I smoke cigars and pipes, and the sunroof is excellent at removing
>>smoke without bringing in too much wind.
>>
>>And I've never had a factory-installed sunroof give me a problem of
>>any kind...
>
>
>
> How do these sunroofs hold up to a hail storm like in Texas ?

I dunno, how do your Windows hold up? Up here, we don't get much
hail, just snow and ice, but I've never had a problem with the
sunroof. The roof has taken some hail damage, but the glass is fine.


--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> :
>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 11/10/09 6:21 AM, in article
>>BNudnTtGC46AxmTXnZ2dnUVZ_hFi4p2d@speakeasy.net , "News" <News@Groups.Name>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Dillon Pyron wrote:
>>>> Thus spake TomP <roadcyc@socal.rr.com> :
>>>>
> <major snip>
>
>>>
>>> The CR-V is s short wheelbase, stiffly sprung car that is quite darty
>>> and busy on the highway, especially over expansion joints.
>>
>>Speaking as a CR-V owner, I don't agree with those assertions, at least
>>not
>>when comparing the CR-V to other SUVs. The CR-V rides much more car-like
>>than my Pathfinder and I don't know what you mean by "darty". We've
>>driven
>>it cross country several times at sustained highway speeds, 70 to 80 MPH.
>>It drives straight effortlessly. Nothing "darty" about it.
>
> The CR-V is "darty" and "skittish" mainly due to it's short WB. Which
> is more noticeable on grooved roads. But the above two terms are
> relative. What is "darty" to one person may be "quick" to another. I
> road race for a guy who changes the WB of the car (Atlantic) depending
> on the track. Long, gentle track, long wheelbase. Tight, twisty
> track, short WB.
>
>>
>>My only two complaints are the road noise (its tire noise transmitted
>>through the suspension, not wind) and the too small gas tank, both of
>>which
>>seem to be Honda traits, not just with the CR-V.
>>
>>>
>>> Great on back roads though, and around town, as a hauler.
>>
>>That I agree with. Most versatile enclosed vehicle (open pickup still
>>wins
>>this category) I've owned.
>>
> --
>
> - dillon I am not invalid
>
> "Always shoot first. At the very least you'll
> distract the guy enough to make the second one count"
> -- Lazurus Long

The Sunbeam Tiger I had years ago was somewhat darty...86" wheelbase and the
modified Ford 260 did'nt help either when you got on it. Great in
autocrosses though. Compared with that, our 09 CRV is a pussycat.