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Old 09 Jul 2004, 06:18 pm
richard48@webtv.net
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Default Re: What'a a moon roof for?

I think he is talking about using silicone spray to keep the door
sliding ok. That's not my problem. The front edge of the door on mine
is rotting away from the hot sun. i just taped it for now.

Anyway, at night its called a "moon roof" and during the day its called
a "sun roof". If it rains, and it leaks.........its jut a "roof".

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Old 09 Jul 2004, 06:38 pm
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<richard48@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I think he is talking about using silicone spray to keep the door
> sliding ok. That's not my problem. The front edge of the door on mine
> is rotting away from the hot sun. i just taped it for now.


If you had used the silicone spray on it from day one, as part of a
preventative maintenance regime, you wouldn't have the problem you have now.

> Anyway, at night its called a "moon roof" and during the day its called
> a "sun roof". If it rains, and it leaks.........its jut a "roof".


It would be more aptly be called a leaky roof ;^)

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Old 13 Jul 2004, 05:41 pm
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<kiselink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Here in FL I rarely use mine.
>
> In the summer its to hot. On the highway, its to noisy. On sunny
> days, its to much sun.
>
> It really eats up the head room. I wonder what the statistics are for
> increased injuries in accidents.


I don't agree that "it really eats up the headroom." At 5'11", my three
Preludes have been fine. If you're 6'4", then it would be a problem in the
smaller cars.

Why would you think there would be more injuries?
-Head striking the padded roofliner?
-Debris falling through the open roof?
-Structural integrity of the roof (with that inner metal tray, could it be
stronger)?

J.

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Old 13 Jul 2004, 08:08 pm
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> I don't agree that "it really eats up the headroom." At 5'11", my three
>Preludes have been fine. If you're 6'4", then it would be a problem in the
>smaller cars.
>

Its an Accord that the original poster was discussing. My comments
only apply to the accord and not the prelude.
>Why would you think there would be more injuries?

Because if one leans forward with a straight back, the body pivots
around an axis resulting in the head catching the forward lip of the
moon roof. I suppose in a typical head on accident, the head just
flies straight forward and then down a bit as the seat belts and air
bag kick in. But suppose you have the car hit some nasty bumps where
your getting some up and down motion. Then the tolerances are going
to be less than with a non-mooned roof vehicle. I doubt if that
insurance organization that tests cars in accidents ever tested a
moonroof equipped vehicle.

Mind you the one I have is factory (not one of those dealer add ons
that just pops straight up). The factory unit actually lowers into the
car and then slides back. . The result is a lower interior roof in
the foward area of the vehicle. I also have the same height as
yourself.
>-Head striking the padded roofliner?

Its the ridge I am talking about. Thats where the modified roof has
been lowered to accommodate the added hardware. So there is a ridge
where the interior roof meets the open area. I dont think the padding
is going to do much if you hit that ridge.
>-Debris falling through the open roof?

I would think a non-mooned roof car would be more survivable in a
flipped vehicle accident.
>-Structural integrity of the roof (with that inner metal tray, could it be
>stronger)?

Mind you, its a luxury add on which accounts for a small number of the
vehicles. I doubt that there is much research that goes into
analyzing the behavior of the vehicle under accident situations for
moonroofed equipped vehicles. I suppose it could go either way on
structural integrity. But if the roof is getting crushed downward,
you'll have less inches.

I guess another way to look at it is what made the designers decide on
the original height of the roof? I would think safety is part of it.
Add that high profit luxury item.....what is the manufacture going to
do...add more height to the roof and retool their factories or just
stick it into the interior of the car and smooth it out with some
added foam / cloth.
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Old 28 Jul 2004, 11:11 am
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Dude...
I really don't mean to sound rude, please don't take it that way but, If you
are that worried about the Moon-Sun roof you may want to consider trading it
in and getting a tank. Then you can just drive over what ever you would
have hit if you were in the Honda.
but then I don't think they pad the hatch lid either.

<kiselink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> > I don't agree that "it really eats up the headroom." At 5'11", my three
> >Preludes have been fine. If you're 6'4", then it would be a problem in

the
> >smaller cars.
> >

> Its an Accord that the original poster was discussing. My comments
> only apply to the accord and not the prelude.
> >Why would you think there would be more injuries?

> Because if one leans forward with a straight back, the body pivots
> around an axis resulting in the head catching the forward lip of the
> moon roof. I suppose in a typical head on accident, the head just
> flies straight forward and then down a bit as the seat belts and air
> bag kick in. But suppose you have the car hit some nasty bumps where
> your getting some up and down motion. Then the tolerances are going
> to be less than with a non-mooned roof vehicle. I doubt if that
> insurance organization that tests cars in accidents ever tested a
> moonroof equipped vehicle.
>
> Mind you the one I have is factory (not one of those dealer add ons
> that just pops straight up). The factory unit actually lowers into the
> car and then slides back. . The result is a lower interior roof in
> the foward area of the vehicle. I also have the same height as
> yourself.
> >-Head striking the padded roofliner?

> Its the ridge I am talking about. Thats where the modified roof has
> been lowered to accommodate the added hardware. So there is a ridge
> where the interior roof meets the open area. I dont think the padding
> is going to do much if you hit that ridge.
> >-Debris falling through the open roof?

> I would think a non-mooned roof car would be more survivable in a
> flipped vehicle accident.
> >-Structural integrity of the roof (with that inner metal tray, could it

be
> >stronger)?

> Mind you, its a luxury add on which accounts for a small number of the
> vehicles. I doubt that there is much research that goes into
> analyzing the behavior of the vehicle under accident situations for
> moonroofed equipped vehicles. I suppose it could go either way on
> structural integrity. But if the roof is getting crushed downward,
> you'll have less inches.
>
> I guess another way to look at it is what made the designers decide on
> the original height of the roof? I would think safety is part of it.
> Add that high profit luxury item.....what is the manufacture going to
> do...add more height to the roof and retool their factories or just
> stick it into the interior of the car and smooth it out with some
> added foam / cloth.



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