Honda Car Forum

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"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> writes:

>"Grumpy au Contraire" <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote
>> Caroline wrote:

>> You hafta prove it and that ain't easy and most times not practical

>I agree.

The State Attorneys-General Offices of literally every state in the union
are jammed with complaints about automobile dealers. The bottom line is
these guys all operate right at (but not over) the razor's edge of
deceptive trade practices.

You stand a greater chance of caching a greased pig.


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Caroline wrote:
> "Harry Cox" <Cox@SomeDomain.com> wrote
> snip
>
>>I've been listening to the to and fro of this argument and don't
>>really know who is right, but one thing is clear, you are not a
>>sincere debater. Your opinions are very black and white. You resort to
>>personal attack. You shout "you are wrong" without developing a clear
>>case to convince anyone that this is so.
>>
>>Caroline on the other hand has kept a cool head and advanced balanced
>>and (IMHO) informed points of view. Thank you, Caroline.
>
>
> Likewise, Harry, your post shone above others as being rational and carefully
> considered, with an excellent point.
>
> It is strange to me that so many people think the law is hesitant to punish
> lying when harm from the lying is shone. As you noted, every agreement relies on
> a certain amount of tacit trust, and the courts do in general recognize this.
> People have to be smart, to be sure, but when a Person says X is in a contract,
> sign here, and X is not in the contract, then something's wrong.
>
> Again, I'm not hopeful for Bob, but I wouldn't say without knowing a lot more
> that he has no chance of recovery at all.
>
> The internet is a great resource for getting a good start on questions like
> this. I hope Bob has now asked at some of the legal newsgroups, taking what is
> said with the appropriate grain of salt and recognizing that paid advice is more
> valuable than the doggerel he might be getting here.
>
>
Hi, Caroline
How about punishing your president Dubya?
Isn't he a liar big time?
If you're talking about lying?
If I were Bob I'd just chalk it off as belated lesson at his age and
only I wish his speedy full recovery. I buy car with cash. Best way to
get the best deal on the spot. If they want, I can
pay for the car in cash, charge on my plastic, or write a check.
I won't have any problem like Bob had, LOL!
Tony

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:02:56 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Hi, Caroline
>How about punishing your president Dubya?
>Isn't he a liar big time?
>If you're talking about lying?
....
>Tony

Quite off-topic, of course.

But it is very interesting to see how Bush and his henchmen are
constantly lying and bending the truth, more than any administration I
can recall, but Americans steadfastly look the other way. It seems
they hate Arabs and just feel good about hurting them, and it doesn't
matter what the justification is.

Good moral example for car dealers! (And for religious people...)

"Thou shalt not kill -- unless they are suspected terrorists."

Bubba wrote:
>
> In article <291Hc.11629$yy1.4868@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>
> "Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> >"Grumpy au Contraire" <Grumpy@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote
> >> Caroline wrote:
>
> >> You hafta prove it and that ain't easy and most times not practical
>
> >I agree.
>
> The State Attorneys-General Offices of literally every state in the union
> are jammed with complaints about automobile dealers. The bottom line is
> these guys all operate right at (but not over) the razor's edge of
> deceptive trade practices.
>
> You stand a greater chance of caching a greased pig.
>
>


Bingo!!!



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JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 22:42:57 GMT, "Bob Travis" <e_quip@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>than my wife's meager diability check. Honda told us the best they could do
>is stop the insurance and give us our premiums back. That's not what we
>want. I should have been covered and they should be making our car payments
>now.

It's a fairly generous offer for them to give back the premiums, what
would they amount to, about one payment?

The thing is, for the relatively tiny amounts of money involved, it
hardly matters who is right and who is wrong, an attorney and a court
would cost many, many times more.

You could try taking it to small claims, and even that little pressure
might get you another payment or two thrown in by the dealer, but if
you're expecting to need more than that, and you actually put it
before a judge, heck, I dunno, you have probably a 50/50 chance of a
judgement, and even with a judgement, only a 50/50 chance the judge
would order anything more than the refund you can already get.

So, risk the offer, for about a 1 in 4 chance at more?

Your options.

Next time, read the fine print, or bring along someone else who will
do it for you. There is just no telling what a given dealer will try
to foist off on you.

You don't happen to have any other disability insurance for yourself,
do you?

J.

| We figured the Honda employee wouldn't lie
stupid

| we signed the contract without reading it.
stupid

"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> And again, I'm pretty sure "Bob Travis" posted a fiction here at his
Usenet
> playground.
>
>

A playground? Aren't most intangible resources for the mind a playground of
sorts?

A "fiction"? I have been posting to Usenet since 1989. It is a great
sounding board. You can ask questions that just wouldn't be appropriate for
mom, dad, your wife, a neighbor, or a co-worker. You know you're not really
anonymous, but you are to the people you would be least likely to ask what
they might consider inappropriate even between friends.

A lot of really bright people here, even more nitwits. I had you pegged as
one of the bright ones. Now I'm not so sure. You may be a nitwit like me.
:-)

Bob

P.S. I have not contacted a lawyer yet because I'm still trying to decide if
I have half a leg to stand on. Many posts have given me hope. I will have to
act within the next week.