Honda Car Forum

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:24:41 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv>
wrote:

>"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in news:9bc0f253-6f77-
>43c1-add5-fa665ffbcba8@w36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
>> the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>
>
>
>They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's rear
>brakes. Don't worry about it.


Hate pads on the back. I am glad my Accord has drums.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-4D4991.20104110092009@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article
> <17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> "Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote:
>
>> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
>> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
>> your braking will be with the rear wheels.
>
> memories of the Polish tank joke--one forward speed, six reverse.
>
> The ignoramus at your dealership doesn't understand simple physics.
> Unless Honda is flat-out stopping the front brakes from engaging, the
> weight shift is to the front and the fronts will take the brunt of it.
>
> No way around it.

Just eyeballing it, but the rear discs seem to have a smaller diameter -- at
least on my 06. That coupled with "softer" pads could be the reason for
rears having to be replaced before the fronts. For my part, I was not
distressed that my rears lasted 53k. On the other hand, our 03 Pilot had to
have both front and rear replaced at 73k or so. So it would appear that the
wear was pretty equal in this case.

On 9/11/09 6:44 AM, in article bIqqm.26311$ec2.9720@newsfe13.iad, "tww1491"
<twaugh5@cox.net> wrote:

>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-4D4991.20104110092009@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article
>> <17fd7ab6-aad6-4315-ad33-0227a48a9d49@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider" <lowbike1@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
>>> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
>>> your braking will be with the rear wheels.
>>
>> memories of the Polish tank joke--one forward speed, six reverse.
>>
>> The ignoramus at your dealership doesn't understand simple physics.
>> Unless Honda is flat-out stopping the front brakes from engaging, the
>> weight shift is to the front and the fronts will take the brunt of it.
>>
>> No way around it.
>
> Just eyeballing it, but the rear discs seem to have a smaller diameter -- at
> least on my 06. That coupled with "softer" pads could be the reason for
> rears having to be replaced before the fronts. For my part, I was not
> distressed that my rears lasted 53k. On the other hand, our 03 Pilot had to
> have both front and rear replaced at 73k or so. So it would appear that the
> wear was pretty equal in this case.
>
>
I see the same thing with my old Odyssey ('96) and with the '06 CRV. Both
have four wheel disks, both have the parking brake set up with a separate
drum inside the rear hub and both wear all four pads pretty evenly. The
Odyssey needed its first pad change at 96k miles. The CRV is currently at
45k and is nowhere near needing anything brake-wise.

Earl The #1 Love Muscle and slow rider wrote:
> On Sep 10, 2:16�pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
>> the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>
> I have a 2008' Accord 2.4l and i had to put on new rear pads at about
> 17K, just today i had to do the same with the front at 31K.
> The service adviser at a dealership told told that in 2006' Honda has
> changed the way the braking system works so that the most power of
> your braking will be with the rear wheels.

so, you're not returning to that dealer then i assume? because you
shouldn't give money to retards.

personally, if a dealer told me that, i'd note the service adviser's
name, then call honda usa's customer service line and tell them that an
idiot has slipped through the training net, with that name and dealer
details. it's a fundamental customer service problem that reflects
badly on the honda brand - they'll take care of it.


> don't worry both front and rear brake pads are easy to change for both
> maybe only 1.5hrs.

Clete wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:24:41 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv>
> wrote:
> Hate pads on the back. I am glad my Accord has drums.

Oh don't start this again!

;0)

a

Tegger wrote:
> "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in news:9bc0f253-6f77-
> 43c1-add5-fa665ffbcba8@w36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes. Does
>> the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>
>
>
> They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's rear
> brakes. Don't worry about it.
>
>

On a related note, Tegger, do you know of a good brand/supplier (Canadian
if possible) for upgraded disks/pads/callipers for Hondas? My 02 Accord is
nearing some brake work and I want to investigate options...

a

a <a@thisisnotmyrealemail.com> wrote in
news:U8tqm.43551$Db2.38932@edtnps83:

> Tegger wrote:
>> "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in
>> news:9bc0f253-6f77-
>> 43c1-add5-fa665ffbcba8@w36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes.
>>> Does the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>>
>>
>>
>> They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's
>> rear brakes. Don't worry about it.
>>
>>
>
> On a related note, Tegger, do you know of a good brand/supplier
> (Canadian if possible) for upgraded disks/pads/callipers for Hondas?
> My 02 Accord is nearing some brake work and I want to investigate
> options...
>
> a
>



I have yet to encounter any aftermarket brake pads or rotors that equal OEM
in quality. All the aftermarket I've tried have ended up with some sort of
problem that made them inferior to OEM (noise, rust, blued rotors, poor
fit, etc.).

However, I have never tried aftermarket parts that cost MORE than OEM.
Those might be better than other aftermarket.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger wrote:
> a <a@thisisnotmyrealemail.com> wrote in
> news:U8tqm.43551$Db2.38932@edtnps83:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in
>>> news:9bc0f253-6f77-
>>> 43c1-add5-fa665ffbcba8@w36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes.
>>>> Does the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>>>
>>>
>>> They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's
>>> rear brakes. Don't worry about it.
>>>
>>>
>> On a related note, Tegger, do you know of a good brand/supplier
>> (Canadian if possible) for upgraded disks/pads/callipers for Hondas?
>> My 02 Accord is nearing some brake work and I want to investigate
>> options...
>>
>> a
>>
>
>
>
> I have yet to encounter any aftermarket brake pads or rotors that equal OEM
> in quality. All the aftermarket I've tried have ended up with some sort of
> problem that made them inferior to OEM (noise, rust, blued rotors, poor
> fit, etc.).
>
> However, I have never tried aftermarket parts that cost MORE than OEM.
> Those might be better than other aftermarket.
>

i recently fitted akebonos for a friend. they're a good quality pad.
i'd still use genuine honda on my own car, especially as the prices are
in line with cheapo imitations, but akebono seem ok.

Tegger wrote:
> a <a@thisisnotmyrealemail.com> wrote in
> news:U8tqm.43551$Db2.38932@edtnps83:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in
>>> news:9bc0f253-6f77-
>>> 43c1-add5-fa665ffbcba8@w36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes.
>>>> Does the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>>>
>>>
>>> They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's
>>> rear brakes. Don't worry about it.
>>>
>>>
>> On a related note, Tegger, do you know of a good brand/supplier
>> (Canadian if possible) for upgraded disks/pads/callipers for Hondas?
>> My 02 Accord is nearing some brake work and I want to investigate
>> options...
>>
>> a
>>
>
>
>
> I have yet to encounter any aftermarket brake pads or rotors that equal OEM
> in quality. All the aftermarket I've tried have ended up with some sort of
> problem that made them inferior to OEM (noise, rust, blued rotors, poor
> fit, etc.).
>
> However, I have never tried aftermarket parts that cost MORE than OEM.
> Those might be better than other aftermarket.
>

Thanks! I was thinking of something like an upgrade from OEM, less fade,
more gription - not a cost saving exercise. The only name in brakes I know
is "Brembo".

a

a wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> a <a@thisisnotmyrealemail.com> wrote in
>> news:U8tqm.43551$Db2.38932@edtnps83:
>>
>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>> "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in
>>>> news:9bc0f253-6f77-
>>>> 43c1-add5-fa665ffbcba8@w36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>> I have had rumors of 2008s having premature wear on rear brakes.
>>>>> Does the 2009 have any signs of this too?
>>>>
>>>> They're rumors only. There are no special problems with that model's
>>>> rear brakes. Don't worry about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> On a related note, Tegger, do you know of a good brand/supplier
>>> (Canadian if possible) for upgraded disks/pads/callipers for Hondas?
>>> My 02 Accord is nearing some brake work and I want to investigate
>>> options...
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have yet to encounter any aftermarket brake pads or rotors that equal OEM
>> in quality. All the aftermarket I've tried have ended up with some sort of
>> problem that made them inferior to OEM (noise, rust, blued rotors, poor
>> fit, etc.).
>>
>> However, I have never tried aftermarket parts that cost MORE than OEM.
>> Those might be better than other aftermarket.
>>
>
> Thanks! I was thinking of something like an upgrade from OEM, less fade,
> more gription - not a cost saving exercise.

you might be disappointed, depending on your real objective. some
aftermarket pads are terrible for fade. and i mean almost /fatally/
bad. ones with grip and limited fade often chew disks. it's a
compromise. and the best guarantee of a workable overall compromise,
off the track, in my usage experience, is honda oem.


> The only name in brakes I know
> is "Brembo".

then you need to look around some more! brembo are great at marketing -
but there's nothing especially outstanding that differentiates them
mechanically.