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Is this any different than a regular system? I need to do a fluid change.
I have a Mity-Vac to assist with this. Or is it better left up to someone
with special equip?

G-Man

"G-Man" <somebody@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is this any different than a regular system? I need to do a fluid change.
> I have a Mity-Vac to assist with this. Or is it better left up to someone
> with special equip?
>
> G-Man
>
>

Yeah, I hear you need a special ABS wrench for Hondas/Acuras. I've had to
replace my ABS cylinder twice. Well, the 1st one I got via HAP Recycling
(~$150), was installed by a local garage, but that one failed too, since it
was used, but HAP sent out an other one for free, & had that one put on. No
problems since then, though, knock on wood! I saved a bundle getting a used
one & actually FINDING a guy that would install it, also. I called,
literally, every garage in town (& I'm in Dallas area), & they all refused
to do ABS work & referred me to the stealership, which a new ABS cylinder is
~$1000, not including labor. I called ONE LAST # I saw, & the good 'ol boy
said--"Bring it on!!! We'll do it!!!". They did the job for ~$200, the first
time, then ~$150 the 2nd time. That garage rules. They had a couple big ass
beefed-up Nova's & Chargers sittin' out front, too. Worked for me.


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No. You don't need to take to someone. And you don't even need to take the
wheels off. You need, I think, a 10mm box end wrench to open the bleed
screws, a length of rubber or plastic tube that fits tightly on bleed
screws, a quart of fluid and something to catch the expelled fluid in. The
mity-vac should have instructions on how to bleed and connect the little
storage reservoir that accumulates the bled fluid from the system. It has to
be emptied frequently because it's not very large. Start out by sucking
almost, but not all of the fluid out of the master cylinder reservoir, then
filling to top with new fluid This saves the time and work of sucking this
dirty fluid all the way through the system. Next, attach the rubber tube to
the wheel cylinder nearest the master cylinder. In US it's the left front.
Crack the bleed screw open slightly and suck with the mity vac vacuum. Close
the bleed screw each time you stop sucking. Check the level in the master
cylinder frequently to avoid sucking in air, refilling as necessary. Keep
removing fluid from each wheel cylinder until it is coming out clean
(practically colorless) There will be some bubbles in the stream of fluid
coming out, but this is usual. When it does come out clean, close the bleed
screw tightly and move onto the next wheel cylinder which would be the right
front, then the left rear and finally the right rear.
G-Man" <somebody@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10c8pg3o7up1i89@news.supernews.com...
> Is this any different than a regular system? I need to do a fluid change.
> I have a Mity-Vac to assist with this. Or is it better left up to someone
> with special equip?
>
> G-Man
>
>

G-Man wrote:
> Is this any different than a regular system? I need to do a fluid change.
> I have a Mity-Vac to assist with this. Or is it better left up to someone
> with special equip?
>
> G-Man


+++++++++++

red98 was close, but forgot a couple of things. Before starting, with
engine OFF, step on the brake pedal a few times until you hear / feel
all the vacuum bleed off. Forget the Mity-Vac. It sucks air past the
threads and its very confusing to tell if the air is from inside or
outside the system. Get a helper and put a 2x4 under the pedal to
prevent helper pushing the pedal past the usual range of travel.

Start at closest to reservoir, as directed. Use clear plastic tygon
tubing, and open nipple, say 'down' and helper pushes slowly. Helper
says OK and you close the nipple. You say 'up slowly' and when they get
to the top the helper says 'ready'. You open the nipple and watch the
color of the fluid, and for air. ETC, ETC, Repeat for front right.

Check level in reservoir often, don't SHAKE the bottle of brake fluid,
and don't put any lubricant dino-based on the rubber parts, or on the
bleed nipples of a braking system.

On 6/7/04 11:51 AM, in article 10c9781mmnnbn96@corp.supernews.com,
"rastapasta" <NOSPAM_rastapasta @ ev1.net_NOSPAM> wrote:

>
> "G-Man" <somebody@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10c8pg3o7up1i89@news.supernews.com...
>> Is this any different than a regular system? I need to do a fluid change.
>> I have a Mity-Vac to assist with this. Or is it better left up to someone
>> with special equip?
>>
>> G-Man
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, I hear you need a special ABS wrench for Hondas/Acuras. I've had to
> replace my ABS cylinder twice. Well, the 1st one I got via HAP Recycling
> (~$150), was installed by a local garage, but that one failed too, since it
> was used, but HAP sent out an other one for free, & had that one put on. No
> problems since then, though, knock on wood! I saved a bundle getting a used
> one & actually FINDING a guy that would install it, also. I called,
> literally, every garage in town (& I'm in Dallas area), & they all refused
> to do ABS work & referred me to the stealership, which a new ABS cylinder is
> ~$1000, not including labor. I called ONE LAST # I saw, & the good 'ol boy
> said--"Bring it on!!! We'll do it!!!". They did the job for ~$200, the first
> time, then ~$150 the 2nd time. That garage rules. They had a couple big ass
> beefed-up Nova's & Chargers sittin' out front, too. Worked for me.
>

What's the name of this place? There are lots of us driving around Dallas
with bad Honda ABS systems.

By the way - To just bleed the brakes on a Honda with ABS, you do not need
any special tool beyond what you need to bleed regular brakes.

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
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> On 6/7/04 11:51 AM, in article 10c9781mmnnbn96@corp.supernews.com,
[snizzle]
> What's the name of this place? There are lots of us driving around Dallas
> with bad Honda ABS systems.
>
> By the way - To just bleed the brakes on a Honda with ABS, you do not need
> any special tool beyond what you need to bleed regular brakes.
>



Allen Foreign & Domestic Auto
112 W. Main Street
Allen, TX 75013
(972) 727-1494

Map:
http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/...wsb/isredir=1/

There's a big ol' boy there named Marlin (Manager). They're all pretty
cool. Tell 'em John sent ya, with the Black '92 Integra, with the 2 ABS
repairs last year sometime. ;}

Oh, here's some coupon I found, too.
http://www.allenonline.com/Coupons1/AllenCarCare1.html

BBB report
http://www.dallas.bbb.org/commonrepo...26001858&code=

Got my ABS cylinder from Honda Acura Recycling (CA)
(HAP parts)
Someone recommended to me once to just simply unhook the ABS wires, & the
ABS light while I'm at it. I just said "Nahhhhhhh---I'll get it done right".




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"rastapasta" <NOSPAM_rastapasta @ ev1.net_NOSPAM> wrote in message
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[snizzle]
> Got my ABS cylinder from Honda Acura Recycling (CA)
> (HAP parts)
> Someone recommended to me once to just simply unhook the ABS wires, & the
> ABS light while I'm at it. I just said "Nahhhhhhh---I'll get it done
right".
>

Oops.... I think the name of it is actually something like "HAR"---Honda
Acura Recycling, or something.