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Old 05 Jul 2009, 06:10 pm
Joe
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Default 2006 Honda Civic Si Rear Brakes

I have a 2006 Honda Civic Si with about 55,000 Miles on it.

The time has come for a brake job.

I have never had a car with rear discs before, so before I dig into
them (did the fronts today), is there anything I should be aware of
before I start that is significantly different from the fronts?

The rotors are fine, so I'll just be replacing pads and de-glazing the
rotors. I know the parking brake is connected, but I haven't looked
to see how.

Also, I do NOT have a service manual for the car yet, as they are
reasonably hard to find still. The couple times I have seen them, I
didn't buy, and they were gone when I went back.

I have done front discs and rear drums tons of times on several
different cars, so I am not completely ignorant, just need to know if
there's any special gotcha i should watch for...

Thanks in advance...


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Old 06 Jul 2009, 06:14 am
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Default Re: 2006 Honda Civic Si Rear Brakes

On 05 Jul 2009 23:10:05 GMT, Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com>
wrote:

>I have a 2006 Honda Civic Si with about 55,000 Miles on it.
>
>The time has come for a brake job.
>
>I have never had a car with rear discs before, so before I dig into
>them (did the fronts today), is there anything I should be aware of
>before I start that is significantly different from the fronts?
>
>The rotors are fine, so I'll just be replacing pads and de-glazing the
>rotors. I know the parking brake is connected, but I haven't looked
>to see how.
>
>Also, I do NOT have a service manual for the car yet, as they are
>reasonably hard to find still. The couple times I have seen them, I
>didn't buy, and they were gone when I went back.
>
>I have done front discs and rear drums tons of times on several
>different cars, so I am not completely ignorant, just need to know if
>there's any special gotcha i should watch for...
>
>Thanks in advance...



I had a vehicle before with disc all around but in the rears the
piston rotated in and out. So in order to compress them for new pads I
had to screw them in. I think I used some kind of vise grip jobby to
grab the piston. A special tool is available for it as well. Just a
thought.
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Old 06 Jul 2009, 07:16 am
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Default Re: 2006 Honda Civic Si Rear Brakes

"Clete" <lecllaij@halifax.ca> wrote in message
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> On 05 Jul 2009 23:10:05 GMT, Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>I have done front discs and rear drums tons of times on several
>>different cars, so I am not completely ignorant, just need to know if
>>there's any special gotcha i should watch for...

>
> I had a vehicle before with disc all around but in the rears the
> piston rotated in and out. So in order to compress them for new pads I
> had to screw them in. I think I used some kind of vise grip jobby to
> grab the piston. A special tool is available for it as well. Just a
> thought.



Many just use a large blade flathead screwdriver. I got a block tool that
fits on a ratchet and has a different pattern on each of it's 6 sides to fit
the various different screw-in calipers.

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Old 06 Jul 2009, 05:51 pm
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Default Re: 2006 Honda Civic Si Rear Brakes

Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com> wrote in news:0096d647$0$19598
$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

> I have a 2006 Honda Civic Si with about 55,000 Miles on it.
>
> The time has come for a brake job.
>
> I have never had a car with rear discs before, so before I dig into
> them (did the fronts today), is there anything I should be aware of
> before I start that is significantly different from the fronts?




They corrode something awful unless you live in Arizona.

The pistons SCREW in, so do NOT be tempted to use a C-clamp to force
them back.

Rear discs are sexy, so they're good for marketing, but in practice are
a dumb idea for FWD road-going cars.



>
> The rotors are fine, so I'll just be replacing pads and de-glazing the
> rotors. I know the parking brake is connected, but I haven't looked
> to see how.



Usually just a cable and clevis on an arm on the top of the caliper.


>
> Also, I do NOT have a service manual for the car yet, as they are
> reasonably hard to find still. The couple times I have seen them, I
> didn't buy, and they were gone when I went back.




Don't get those crappy aftermarket ones. Spend a couple of hundred bucks
and get the REAL THING from Honda. It's expensive, but you'll never
regret it, believe me.

As an alternative, you can (only if an American resident) go to Honda's
Techinfo site:
https://techinfo.honda.com
There you can subscribe for ten bucks a day, and download the necessary
pages from the genuine Honda service manual. I STRONGLY recommend this
option if you are able to access it.



>
> I have done front discs and rear drums tons of times on several
> different cars, so I am not completely ignorant, just need to know if
> there's any special gotcha i should watch for...
>



Try here:
<http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/rustybrakes/brakes1.html>
and here for rear-specific items:
<http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/rustybrakes/brakes3.html>

Note: I haven't updated these pages in a /long/ time, so if you have any
questions, ask here.

I'm gonna be rebuilding my own rear calipers as soon as I get around to
finding a set of snap-ring pliers that go deep enough. I picked up a
scrap caliper at the wreckers and pulled that apart to see how it
worked: Pretty cool, and /really/ complex inside, like an ABS brake
master cylinder.


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Old 08 Jul 2009, 04:01 am
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Default Re: 2006 Honda Civic Si Rear Brakes

On 2009-07-06, Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
> They corrode something awful unless you live in Arizona.


I'll let you know how they are when I'm done. I'm in Buffalo, and
last winter was likely THE last winter the car will see while I own
it. Picked up a used 4WD Dodge pickup for the Winters. The car is
just too low, and bottoms out in the snow a lot, since the damned city
plows side streets on odd-numbered storms if I'm lucky... ;-)

>
> The pistons SCREW in, so do NOT be tempted to use a C-clamp to force
> them back.


Gotcha. Bought the tool for it. Set me back about $4...

>
> Rear discs are sexy, so they're good for marketing, but in practice are
> a dumb idea for FWD road-going cars.


Maybe, but I always hated changing drums. They work fine, but too
many fine details with all the damned springs... ;-) Besides, with
nice rims, discs look a lot better... ;-)

> Don't get those crappy aftermarket ones. Spend a couple of hundred bucks
> and get the REAL THING from Honda. It's expensive, but you'll never
> regret it, believe me.
>
> As an alternative, you can (only if an American resident) go to Honda's
> Techinfo site:
> https://techinfo.honda.com
> There you can subscribe for ten bucks a day, and download the necessary
> pages from the genuine Honda service manual. I STRONGLY recommend this
> option if you are able to access it.


I may do this for other jobs, as your pages are pretty excellent for
this task. BTW: It's $10 for 3 days. Now THERE'S value!

> Try here:
><http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/rustybrakes/brakes1.html>
> and here for rear-specific items:
><http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/rustybrakes/brakes3.html>
>
> Note: I haven't updated these pages in a /long/ time, so if you have any
> questions, ask here.


Will do. I have everything I need now, and will be tackling it in the
next couple of days, when weather permits. Stuck driving the 13MPG
(mixed driving, on good days) pickup until I get the brakes done on
the car, so there's some incentive...

>
> I'm gonna be rebuilding my own rear calipers as soon as I get around to
> finding a set of snap-ring pliers that go deep enough. I picked up a
> scrap caliper at the wreckers and pulled that apart to see how it
> worked: Pretty cool, and /really/ complex inside, like an ABS brake
> master cylinder.


Way beyond my scope. I'm a computer geek. I like doing brakes, but I
leave most of the complex automotive things to trained
professionals... ;-)


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Old 08 Jul 2009, 09:43 pm
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Default Re: 2006 Honda Civic Si Rear Brakes

Thus spake Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com> :

>I have a 2006 Honda Civic Si with about 55,000 Miles on it.
>
>The time has come for a brake job.
>
>I have never had a car with rear discs before, so before I dig into
>them (did the fronts today), is there anything I should be aware of
>before I start that is significantly different from the fronts?
>
>The rotors are fine, so I'll just be replacing pads and de-glazing the
>rotors. I know the parking brake is connected, but I haven't looked
>to see how.
>
>Also, I do NOT have a service manual for the car yet, as they are
>reasonably hard to find still. The couple times I have seen them, I
>didn't buy, and they were gone when I went back.


I was able to order my service manual for my 2008 Fit within about 48
hours of taking delivery, and paid less than "list", from a Honda
dealer.
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Old 09 Jul 2009, 12:53 am
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Default Re: 2006 Honda Civic Si Rear Brakes

On 2009-07-09, Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Thus spake Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com> :
>
>>I have a 2006 Honda Civic Si with about 55,000 Miles on it.
>>
>>The time has come for a brake job.
>>
>>I have never had a car with rear discs before, so before I dig into
>>them (did the fronts today), is there anything I should be aware of
>>before I start that is significantly different from the fronts?
>>
>>The rotors are fine, so I'll just be replacing pads and de-glazing the
>>rotors. I know the parking brake is connected, but I haven't looked
>>to see how.
>>
>>Also, I do NOT have a service manual for the car yet, as they are
>>reasonably hard to find still. The couple times I have seen them, I
>>didn't buy, and they were gone when I went back.

>
> I was able to order my service manual for my 2008 Fit within about 48
> hours of taking delivery, and paid less than "list", from a Honda
> dealer.


I haven't checked the site lately, but for the first year after the 06
Si was released, the service manual was still not available. I'm sure
it's there now, but so far I haven't needed it.

BTW, Tegger, I did the rears today, and they were easy as pie. They
weren't very rusty at all, so there was minimal effort. The worst
part was that I broke 2 cheap-assed 12 MM sockets. Went and bought a
good set of 6 pointers, and all was fine.

With any luck, she'll be good for another 50,000...

Thanks for all the help. Your guide was a life saver!

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