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are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it
will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile?

Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote:

> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
> switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now everyone
> with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie three
> hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free?
>
> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In
> places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station can't
> come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny
> antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to
> impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.
>
> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.
>
> Aron
>
> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
> > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
> > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
> > have to do it the hard way, I guess.
> >
> > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car have
> an
> > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use the
> > small fm transmitter that
> > you can purchase for it ?
> >
> > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
> > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as the
> > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it works
> if
> > you
> > place it on the rear inside shelf.
> >
> > Are both of these statements true ?
> > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
> >
> > c. Not too sure what else to ask.
> >
> > Are you folks happy with XM ?
> > Works well ?
> > Worth it, in your opinion ?
> >
> > Any caveats, etc. ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >

Robert Blank wrote:
> are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna,
> it will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile?

And the antenna really isn't that bad.

>
> Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote:
>
>> Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too.
>> Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV.
>> Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour
>> and a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's
>> already free?
>>
>> I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store.
>> In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital
>> station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make
>> fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically,
>> you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing
>> to spend money on.
>>
>> Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.
>>
>> Aron
>>
>> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
>>> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
>>> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
>>> have to do it the hard way, I guess.
>>>
>>> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car
>>> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must
>>> one use the small fm transmitter that
>>> you can purchase for it ?
>>>
>>> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
>>> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard,
>>> as the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also
>>> said it works if you
>>> place it on the rear inside shelf.
>>>
>>> Are both of these statements true ?
>>> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
>>>
>>> c. Not too sure what else to ask.
>>>
>>> Are you folks happy with XM ?
>>> Works well ?
>>> Worth it, in your opinion ?
>>>
>>> Any caveats, etc. ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob

In article <1gd5nbr.bb2oj91havkiqN%bob@NOblankproductions.com >,
bob@NOblankproductions.com (Robert Blank) wrote:

> are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it
> will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile?

He had problems in high school gym. Some things, people never get over.

"Masterson" <adam@soundsolutionsmd.com> wrote in message
news:4KWdnVzfE9m0hgzd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >>>Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too.
> Actually, XM just recently increased the number of comercial free
stations.
>
>
> >>>everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and
> a half movie three hours long.
> My HBO plays movies straight though, yours puts ads in the middle?
And how much EXTRA do yu PAY for HBO? I was talking about the standard
cable stations, not the premium stations.


>
>
> >>>Why pay for radio when it's already free?
> Cause my local stations don't have CNN, FOXnews, MLB or NFL
> games. I also cant get any NASCAR races on fm. ohhh wait.....
> I also can't get a 24hour Comedy channel. (it goes on and on and on)
You don't have CNN or FOX news but you do have NPR on FM and AM has at least
MLB and plenty of news. I don't listen to the radio for sports so I can't
be certain but I bet you can find other sportscasting on AM. Well maybe you
aren't in an area with a good selection of stations or something but in the
New York area there are tons of sttions.

>
>
> >>>In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone.
> Nothing is perfect, but its much better then most FM signals.
You have no chance of hearing what going on if it cuts out. You can hear
through most AM/FM signal problems. If you're trying to listen to
information or music, continuity is important.

>
>
> >>>A digital station can't come in unless it's clear.
> If you like the sound of static, its ok. I understand.
> Some dont like the sound, so no signal is better then raw noise. Also,
> I dont have a single problem getting receiption. Owned it for more
> then a year now......never a droped signal.
This may be your experience but it doesn't describe XM in general because I
have experience repeated dropped signals on a regular basis on a
professionally installed system. I'm sure it depends mostly on the area.

>
>
> >>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the
roof.
> Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it.
But it might be a good reason not to do it. I be you wouldn't wear clown
shoes to school or work (unless of course you work as a clown or something)
even if you liked them.

"RankAndFile" <rankandfile@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:E9ckc.4479$wY.2554@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote in message
> newsq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
> > switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now
everyone
> > with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie
> three
> > hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free?
>
> You pay extra for commercial-free channels on cable. It's always been
that
> way even if it shouldn't be.
>
> OBTW, when cable first came out, my father told me he didn't get it for
the
> extra channels and ad-free stations. He got it so he could take that
nasty
> antenna off of his roof and it would provide better reception. Sounds
worth
> it to me.
Funny, in my area you still get fuzz and ghosting in cable programming. So
much for the great improvement. With a good areal you will get the local
stations equally well. If everyone didn't have cable there would be tons of
local stations, at least in metro areas, just like there are tons of radio
stations.

>
> > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In
> > places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station
can't
> > come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny
> > antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to
> > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.
>
> The content of local radio absolutely sucks in comparison. That's why
> people will spend money on it.
perhaps

>
> >
> > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.
>
> I guess you can still listen to CDs or, in your case, cassettes.
I have had a CD player in my car since 1995. I listen to CDs all the time.

>
> > Aron
> >
> > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
> > > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
> > > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
> > > have to do it the hard way, I guess.
> > >
> > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car
have
> > an
> > > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use
the
> > > small fm transmitter that
> > > you can purchase for it ?
> > >
> > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
> > > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as
the
> > > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it
> works
> > if
> > > you
> > > place it on the rear inside shelf.
> > >
> > > Are both of these statements true ?
> > > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
> > >
> > > c. Not too sure what else to ask.
> > >
> > > Are you folks happy with XM ?
> > > Works well ?
> > > Worth it, in your opinion ?
> > >
> > > Any caveats, etc. ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob
> > >
> >
> >
>

Basically, I don't want it. I don't think it is worth spending more on. I
guess that makes you uncomfortable.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-51A0C5.18200829042004@news.usenetserver.com...
> In article <oq8kc.14812$gH6.11423@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net>,
> "Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote:
>
> > Basically, you're only going to
> > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.
> >
> > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.
>
> Basically, it's because basically you don't get it.
>

That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to listen to the
radio though. I have never been anywhere I can remember where there was no
radio coverage. I have, however been where there are only two stations and
they both suck. I guess that's about equal to cutting out in Yosemite since
either way I'd be popping in a CD. I don't like the idea of paying for
radio. Paying for TV (cable) was the downfall of local television coverage
and now you really can't get TV without paying a premium for it even though
advertisers have already paid for it. Even in a metro area you only have a
small number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that
happen to radio.

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:_pjkc.1326$I%1.149423@attbi_s51...
> Aron wrote:
> > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too.
> > Everyone switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV.
> > Now everyone with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and
> > a half movie three hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already
> > free?
> >
> > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store.
> > In places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital
> > station can't come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make
> > fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically,
> > you're only going to impress the people that need the newest thing to
> > spend money on.
> >
> > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.
>
> I have one, and I probably wouldn't want to do without it now.
>
> I drove from the SF Bay area to the middle of Yosemite, and I didn't loose
> it until I got almost to the middle of the park. I never loose it around
> town......
>
> So far, no commercials are only on the music stations. CNN, MSNBC, ESPN
> radio, et al have commercials.
>
> >
> > Aron
> >
> > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> >> Hello:
> >>
> >> Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
> >> with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
> >> with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
> >> have to do it the hard way, I guess.
> >>
> >> a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car
> >> have an aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must
> >> one use the small fm transmitter that
> >> you can purchase for it ?
> >>
> >> b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
> >> The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as
> >> the glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said
> >> it works if you
> >> place it on the rear inside shelf.
> >>
> >> Are both of these statements true ?
> >> Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
> >>
> >> c. Not too sure what else to ask.
> >>
> >> Are you folks happy with XM ?
> >> Works well ?
> >> Worth it, in your opinion ?
> >>
> >> Any caveats, etc. ?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bob
>
>

Not really but I do try not to look like an idiot. If it's important enough
to me then I'm not going to do it even if others aren't understanding.

"Robert Blank" <bob@NOblankproductions.com> wrote in message
news:1gd5nbr.bb2oj91havkiqN%bob@NOblankproductions .com...
> are you that shallow that if outher people make fun of your antenna, it
> will affect your decision as to how you equip your automobile?
>
> Aron <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote:
>
> > Why XM? Remember, when cable came out they said no ads too. Everyone
> > switched to cable and now there is hardly any broadcast TV. Now
everyone
> > with cable is stuck paying for ads that make an hour and a half movie
three
> > hours long. Why pay for radio when it's already free?
> >
> > I have experienced XM in a car, not just some display in a store. In
> > places with trees it cuts out like a cell phone. A digital station
can't
> > come in unless it's clear. Also, I hear people make fun of the funny
> > antenna you have to put on the roof. Basically, you're only going to
> > impress the people that need the newest thing to spend money on.
> >
> > Basically, I don't see how it can be worthwhile.
> >
> > Aron
> >
> > "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:sd6dnQ5zuveTYxLdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > Am thinking of getting satellite radio XM as a gift for a person
> > > with a new 2004 Accord LX 6 cyl. Apparently it does not come
> > > with an XM capable radio (only the leather packages have it) so will
> > > have to do it the hard way, I guess.
> > >
> > > a. Does the "standard" 6 CD radio that came installed with the car
have
> > an
> > > aux. jack, anywhere, to accept the XM tuner output, or must one use
the
> > > small fm transmitter that
> > > you can purchase for it ?
> > >
> > > b. Hate to have to install the antenna on the exterior of the car.
> > > The salesman said that it works fine placing it on the dashboard, as
the
> > > glass is so extremely angled, it has a good sky view. Also said it
works
> > if
> > > you
> > > place it on the rear inside shelf.
> > >
> > > Are both of these statements true ?
> > > Or, is it "substantially" better on the roof ?
> > >
> > > c. Not too sure what else to ask.
> > >
> > > Are you folks happy with XM ?
> > > Works well ?
> > > Worth it, in your opinion ?
> > >
> > > Any caveats, etc. ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob
> > >

Hello Aron...

Congrats on coming back to a conversation that ended two weeks ago.


>You don't have CNN or FOX news but you do have NPR on FM
>and AM has at least MLB and plenty of news.

You dont get it do you? When I said "CNN and FOX" I wasnt talking
about getting any news, I was talking about CNN and FOX. I dont
get them on local free stations.

>I don't listen to the radio for sports so I can't be certain but I bet you
>can find other sportscasting on AM.

OK...so you say you "dont listen to the radio for sports" but yet you
feel the need to act like AM has a lot of sports? Local AM only has
LOCAL sports. Like ONE game a weekend. Sat radio offers EVERY
MBL game in the country. and in the future EVERY NFL game.
Local AM/FM doesnt offer anything near that.


>This may be your experience but it doesn't describe XM in general because I
>have experience repeated dropped signals on a regular basis on a
>professionally installed system. I'm sure it depends mostly on the area.

Here is were you are wrong. I'm sorry that you have had a bad experience.
But did you read the other posts in this thread? 90% of the people that
responded
said they get great reception. The other 9% didnt mention reception, but
had a
positive oppinion of Sat radio. So far you are alone on this issue.


>>>I hear people make fun of the funny antenna you have to put on the roof.
>>Dont be foolish. Not a good reason at all for not liking it.
>But it might be a good reason not to do it. I be you wouldn't wear clown
shoes
>to school or work (unless of course you work as a clown or something)
>even if you liked them.

Still a foolish reason. Nothing you've said changes that. Just as foolish
as this.....
"I have a FM/AM stereo in my car. I only listen to AM cause I dont like the
letter F"


Officially I am done with this thread.

In article <th3qc.11694$zO3.1021@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
"Aron" <drenkav1912@earthlink.ten> wrote:

> That's pretty good. I wouldn't want an extra bill in order to listen to the
> radio though.

That's funny. I bet you buy bottles of water for a dollar. I bet you
go to Starbucks and overpay for coffee. But ten bucks a month for
commercial free music in the car, now that's different. Right?



> I have never been anywhere I can remember where there was no
> radio coverage.

Well, now, if you consider the Reverend Billy Joe Bob to be radio worth
listening to, you may be right.



> I don't like the idea of paying for
> radio.

Remember that the next time you buy a bottle of water.



> Paying for TV (cable) was the downfall of local television coverage
> and now you really can't get TV without paying a premium for it even though
> advertisers have already paid for it.

Radio has already gone down the tubes. Ten bucks a month for the
privilege of NOT listening to a Clear Channel station is well worth it.

I'll give up the two cups of Starbucks per month for that.



> Even in a metro area you only have a
> small number of broadcast television stations. I would hate to see that
> happen to radio.

It's already happened.