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Old 03 Jun 2009, 02:11 am
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Default Tire rotation neglected on 2000 Accord LX

Tire rotation has been neglected on the car since they were purchased
about 2-3 years ago. The front tires are worn down but the rear tires
are fine. Would it be ok to rotate the rear to the front and front to
rear since being FWD the front takes the most wear? or would that be a
bad idea?
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Old 03 Jun 2009, 05:39 am
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<allenvillegas@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tire rotation has been neglected on the car since they were purchased
> about 2-3 years ago. The front tires are worn down but the rear tires
> are fine. Would it be ok to rotate the rear to the front and front to
> rear since being FWD the front takes the most wear? or would that be a
> bad idea?



Depends on how worn down they are. Do the tires still have enough tread to
pass a safety inspection? Then sure. If not, they're not safe front or
back.

Me, I don't rotate my tires either. When I get a new pair they go on the
front, what's on the front goes to the rear and what on the rear isn't worth
saving and get disposed of.

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Old 03 Jun 2009, 06:39 am
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"allenvillegas@gmail.com" <allenvillegas@gmail.com> wrote in news:2152856a-
e51c-49ae-a92b-e021c3a81069@m19g2000...oglegroups.com:

> Tire rotation has been neglected on the car since they were purchased
> about 2-3 years ago. The front tires are worn down but the rear tires
> are fine. Would it be ok to rotate the rear to the front and front to
> rear since being FWD the front takes the most wear? or would that be a
> bad idea?




It's a BAD idea according to any magazine article, Click & Clack episode,
race car driver, or competent mechanic I've ever spoken to.

People think the good tires should naturally go on the front, since the
front does most of the work, but people are wrong.

Those rear tires are supposed to hold the rear of the car from swinging
around forwards during turns or in slippery weather. It swings, you spin
out of control. And most likely crash.

If the FRONT slides, all you do is keep going the way you were going, just
unable to stop in as short a distance as you think you should. You'll be
very quick to discover how little traction your fronts have and adjust your
driving accordingly.

This is why if you purchase only two new tires, they go on the REAR.



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Old 03 Jun 2009, 06:50 am
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Default Re: Tire rotation neglected on 2000 Accord LX

In article <Xns9C1F4DDF49B82tegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> Those rear tires are supposed to hold the rear of the car from swinging
> around forwards during turns or in slippery weather. It swings, you spin
> out of control. And most likely crash.


"Understeer is when the back end of the car arrives at the scene of the
accident first."
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Old 03 Jun 2009, 07:36 am
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
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> In article <Xns9C1F4DDF49B82tegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> Those rear tires are supposed to hold the rear of the car from
>> swinging around forwards during turns or in slippery weather. It
>> swings, you spin out of control. And most likely crash.

>
> "Understeer is when the back end of the car arrives at the scene of
> the accident first."
>





That's OVERsteer.

To put your quote another way, the rear of the car is OVERsteering
(going past) the front.

OVERsteer is very bad for a road-going car, which is why road cars are
invariably set up to UNDERsteer (plow straight ahead under heavy braking).


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Old 03 Jun 2009, 09:34 am
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Default Re: Tire rotation neglected on 2000 Accord LX

Good (new) tires are about cheapest way to make a car safe.
Especially if you live in an area where it rains or snows.
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Old 03 Jun 2009, 09:49 am
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In article <Xns9C1F578638A1Ctegger@208.90.168.18>,
Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> That's OVERsteer.


Oops--sorry, you're right. My mind was moving at a different speed than
my hands.
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Old 03 Jun 2009, 02:05 pm
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
9BF8F7.10493603062009@mara100-84.onlink.net:

> In article <Xns9C1F578638A1Ctegger@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> That's OVERsteer.

>
> Oops--sorry, you're right. My mind was moving at a different speed than
> my hands.





Then you were OVERtyping; your hands went past your brain.

Now if you were UNDERtyping, you'd never get anything done, since you'd
forget what you wanted to type by the time your hands got around to typing
it.


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Old 03 Jun 2009, 03:38 pm
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On Jun 3, 3:39*am, "Seth" <seth_lermanNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <allenville...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2152856a-e51c-49ae-a92b-e021c3a81069@m19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Tire rotation has been neglected on the car since they were purchased
> > about 2-3 years ago. The front tires are worn down but the rear tires
> > are fine. Would it be ok to rotate the rear to the front and front to
> > rear since being FWD the front takes the most wear? or would that be a
> > bad idea?

>
> Depends on how worn down they are. *Do the tires still have enough tread to
> pass a safety inspection? Then sure. *If not, they're not safe front or
> back.
>
> Me, I don't rotate my tires either. *When I get a new pair they go on the
> front, what's on the front goes to the rear and what on the rear isn't worth
> saving and get disposed of.


The tires in the front aren't super worn down but the tread is
noticeably less than the rear.

I'm still iffy on what to do especially with Elmo's info...I'm leaning
more towards just getting two new front tires, for safety reasons
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Old 03 Jun 2009, 03:39 pm
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On Jun 3, 1:38*pm, "allenville...@gmail.com" <allenville...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jun 3, 3:39*am, "Seth" <seth_lermanNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > <allenville...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:2152856a-e51c-49ae-a92b-e021c3a81069@m19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com....

>
> > > Tire rotation has been neglected on the car since they were purchased
> > > about 2-3 years ago. The front tires are worn down but the rear tires
> > > are fine. Would it be ok to rotate the rear to the front and front to
> > > rear since being FWD the front takes the most wear? or would that be a
> > > bad idea?

>
> > Depends on how worn down they are. *Do the tires still have enough tread to
> > pass a safety inspection? Then sure. *If not, they're not safe front or
> > back.

>
> > Me, I don't rotate my tires either. *When I get a new pair they go onthe
> > front, what's on the front goes to the rear and what on the rear isn't worth
> > saving and get disposed of.

>
> The tires in the front aren't super worn down but the tread is
> noticeably less than the rear.
>
> I'm still iffy on what to do especially with Elmo's info...I'm leaning
> more towards just getting two new front tires, for safety reasons


I meant Tegger, sorry.
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