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Old 24 May 2009, 09:42 pm
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Default How does this vehicle look?

I'm considering this Honda civic 1997 with 60k miles on it.
edmunds.com reviews are great but I'm not sure if there are any recalls
on it. carfax.com gives conflicting information.

I see following on one of the pages:

Recall date: 10-15-1997
Units potentially affected: 9,558
NHTSA campaign number: 97V193000
Defective part or component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR
BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER
Description: Vehicle Description: Passenger vehicles. The front passenger
air bag modules have been improperly assembled. the cloth flaps covering
the folded air bag may have been tucked in too far. This condition could
prevent proper deployment of the air bag. In a crash, an improper air bag
deployment could increase the risk of injury to a front seat passenger.
Dealers will repair the front passenger's air bag module to prevent this
problem from occurring.

But I'm not sure If this particular vehicle is affected. Any way to make
certain? If I do take this car to mehanic would he be able to make certain
that vehicle is ok. Do I just tell him to check the airbags.?
Here is the rest of the carfax.com report. Would someone please kindly take
a look at this and let me know if anything looks suspicious.

Thank you very much
Vehicle Information: 1997 HONDA CIVIC DX SEDAN 4 DR 1.6L L4 PFI
SOHC 16V FRONT WHEEL DRIVE Standard Equipment

No accident/damage reported No accident / damage reported to CARFAX
CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle
Registered as a personal vehicle Personal vehicle
Last reported odometer reading/mileage
58,746 Last reported odometer reading

Purchased: 1997
Type: Personal
Est. miles/year: 4,745/yr
Est. length owned: 2/15/97 - 4/29/09
(12 yrs. 2 mo.)

Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
02/15/1997
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Registered as
personal vehicle
Motor Vehicle Dept. Title issued or updated
First owner reported
02/27/1998 7,278
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
08/27/1998 9,500 Inspection Co.
Vehicle inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection
03/09/1999 13,531
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
03/18/2000 19,628
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
01/26/2001
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title issued or updated
03/24/2001 24,789
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
04/02/2002 29,654
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
01/29/2003
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Passed safety inspection
02/13/2003 33,000 Inspection Co.
Vehicle inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection
04/12/2003 34,311
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
02/02/2004 37,000

718-892-3300
Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
05/08/2004 38,419
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
06/15/2004
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title issued or updated
12/19/2004
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Passed safety inspection
02/04/2005 41,321
718-892-3300
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed
05/18/2006 46,807
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
12/22/2006
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Passed safety inspection
05/16/2007 51,239
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
05/17/2008 55,598
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected
01/06/2009
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Passed safety inspection
04/29/2009 58,745
vehicle offered for sale
05/12/2009 58,746 Online Listing Vehicle offered for sale
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Old 25 May 2009, 12:36 am
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Default Re: How does this vehicle look?

On Sun, 24 May 2009 22:42:41 -0400, asdf <asdf@adsf.com> wrote:
>I'm considering this Honda civic 1997 with 60k miles on it.
>edmunds.com reviews are great but I'm not sure if there are any recalls
>on it. carfax.com gives conflicting information.


>I see following on one of the pages:


>Recall date: 10-15-1997
>Units potentially affected: 9,558
>NHTSA campaign number: 97V193000
>Defective part or component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR


take it to a dealer, dumbass or use one of them thar new fangled
phones.

They'll perform the service for free if it is applicable to your car.
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Old 25 May 2009, 03:46 am
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"asdf" <asdf@adsf.com> wrote in message
news:4a1a0656$0$5394$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> I'm considering this Honda civic 1997 with 60k miles on it.
> edmunds.com reviews are great but I'm not sure if there are any recalls
> on it. carfax.com gives conflicting information.
>
> I see following on one of the pages:
>
> Recall date: 10-15-1997
> Units potentially affected: 9,558
> NHTSA campaign number: 97V193000
> Defective part or component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR
> BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER
> Description: Vehicle Description: Passenger vehicles. The front
> passenger
> air bag modules have been improperly assembled. the cloth flaps covering
> the folded air bag may have been tucked in too far. This condition could
> prevent proper deployment of the air bag. In a crash, an improper air bag
> deployment could increase the risk of injury to a front seat passenger.
> Dealers will repair the front passenger's air bag module to prevent this
> problem from occurring.
>
> But I'm not sure If this particular vehicle is affected. Any way to make
> certain? If I do take this car to mehanic would he be able to make certain
> that vehicle is ok. Do I just tell him to check the airbags.?
> Here is the rest of the carfax.com report. Would someone please kindly
> take
> a look at this and let me know if anything looks suspicious.
>
> Thank you very much
> Vehicle Information: 1997 HONDA CIVIC DX SEDAN 4 DR 1.6L L4 PFI
> SOHC 16V FRONT WHEEL DRIVE Standard Equipment
>
> No accident/damage reported No accident / damage reported to CARFAX
> CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle
> Registered as a personal vehicle Personal vehicle
> Last reported odometer reading/mileage
> 58,746 Last reported odometer reading
>
> Purchased: 1997
> Type: Personal
> Est. miles/year: 4,745/yr
> Est. length owned: 2/15/97 - 4/29/09
> (12 yrs. 2 mo.)
>
> Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
> 02/15/1997
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Motor Vehicle Dept. Title issued or updated
> First owner reported
> 02/27/1998 7,278
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 08/27/1998 9,500 Inspection Co.
> Vehicle inspected
> Anti-theft device present
> at the time of inspection
> 03/09/1999 13,531
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 03/18/2000 19,628
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 01/26/2001
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Title issued or updated
> 03/24/2001 24,789
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 04/02/2002 29,654
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 01/29/2003
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registration issued or renewed
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Passed safety inspection
> 02/13/2003 33,000 Inspection Co.
> Vehicle inspected
> Anti-theft device present
> at the time of inspection
> 04/12/2003 34,311
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 02/02/2004 37,000
>
> 718-892-3300
> Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
> 05/08/2004 38,419
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 06/15/2004
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Title issued or updated
> 12/19/2004
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registration issued or renewed
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Passed safety inspection
> 02/04/2005 41,321
> 718-892-3300
> Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed
> 05/18/2006 46,807
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 12/22/2006
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registration issued or renewed
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Passed safety inspection
> 05/16/2007 51,239
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 05/17/2008 55,598
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 01/06/2009
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registration issued or renewed
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Passed safety inspection
> 04/29/2009 58,745
> vehicle offered for sale
> 05/12/2009 58,746 Online Listing Vehicle offered
> for sale



Ok, what's the question??

john


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Old 25 May 2009, 11:28 am
E. Meyer
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Default Re: How does this vehicle look?

Call any Honda dealer. Give them the VIN number & they can tell you if
there are any recalls that apply and whether or not they were ever performed
on that specific car.

Recalls should not be a concern. If there are any outstanding, any/every
Honda dealer is required to perform them for free.


On 5/24/09 9:42 PM, in article 4a1a0656$0$5394$607ed4bc@cv.net, "asdf"
<asdf@adsf.com> wrote:

> I'm considering this Honda civic 1997 with 60k miles on it.
> edmunds.com reviews are great but I'm not sure if there are any recalls
> on it. carfax.com gives conflicting information.
>
> I see following on one of the pages:
>
> Recall date: 10-15-1997
> Units potentially affected: 9,558
> NHTSA campaign number: 97V193000
> Defective part or component: INTERIOR SYSTEMS:PASSENGER RESTRAINTS:AIR
> BAG:FRONTAL:PASSENGER
> Description: Vehicle Description: Passenger vehicles. The front passenger
> air bag modules have been improperly assembled. the cloth flaps covering
> the folded air bag may have been tucked in too far. This condition could
> prevent proper deployment of the air bag. In a crash, an improper air bag
> deployment could increase the risk of injury to a front seat passenger.
> Dealers will repair the front passenger's air bag module to prevent this
> problem from occurring.
>
> But I'm not sure If this particular vehicle is affected. Any way to make
> certain? If I do take this car to mehanic would he be able to make certain
> that vehicle is ok. Do I just tell him to check the airbags.?
> Here is the rest of the carfax.com report. Would someone please kindly take
> a look at this and let me know if anything looks suspicious.
>
> Thank you very much
> Vehicle Information: 1997 HONDA CIVIC DX SEDAN 4 DR 1.6L L4 PFI
> SOHC 16V FRONT WHEEL DRIVE Standard Equipment
>
> No accident/damage reported No accident / damage reported to CARFAX
> CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle
> Registered as a personal vehicle Personal vehicle
> Last reported odometer reading/mileage
> 58,746 Last reported odometer reading
>
> Purchased: 1997
> Type: Personal
> Est. miles/year: 4,745/yr
> Est. length owned: 2/15/97 - 4/29/09
> (12 yrs. 2 mo.)
>
> Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
> 02/15/1997
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Motor Vehicle Dept. Title issued or updated
> First owner reported
> 02/27/1998 7,278
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 08/27/1998 9,500 Inspection Co.
> Vehicle inspected
> Anti-theft device present
> at the time of inspection
> 03/09/1999 13,531
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 03/18/2000 19,628
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 01/26/2001
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Title issued or updated
> 03/24/2001 24,789
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 04/02/2002 29,654
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 01/29/2003
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registration issued or renewed
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Passed safety inspection
> 02/13/2003 33,000 Inspection Co.
> Vehicle inspected
> Anti-theft device present
> at the time of inspection
> 04/12/2003 34,311
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 02/02/2004 37,000
>
> 718-892-3300
> Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
> 05/08/2004 38,419
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 06/15/2004
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Title issued or updated
> 12/19/2004
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registration issued or renewed
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Passed safety inspection
> 02/04/2005 41,321
> 718-892-3300
> Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed
> 05/18/2006 46,807
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 12/22/2006
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registration issued or renewed
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Passed safety inspection
> 05/16/2007 51,239
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 05/17/2008 55,598
> Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
> Passed emissions inspection
>
> View what was inspected
> 01/06/2009
> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> Registration issued or renewed
> Registered as
> personal vehicle
> Passed safety inspection
> 04/29/2009 58,745
> vehicle offered for sale
> 05/12/2009 58,746 Online Listing Vehicle offered for
> sale


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Old 25 May 2009, 06:57 pm
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"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
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> Call any Honda dealer. Give them the VIN number & they can tell you
> if there are any recalls that apply and whether or not they were ever
> performed on that specific car.




There's an even easier way to tell if the fix has been done for the airbag
recall the OP refers to: If the repair has been done, there will be a
center-punch mark above the second character (the H) of the VIN number
that's stamped into the firewall in the engine compartment.

No mark, no fix.



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Old 27 May 2009, 11:30 pm
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"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Call any Honda dealer. Give them the VIN number & they can tell you if
> there are any recalls that apply and whether or not they were ever
> performed
> on that specific car.
>
> Recalls should not be a concern. If there are any outstanding, any/every
> Honda dealer is required to perform them for free.
>

Recalls do expire!

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Old 28 May 2009, 09:18 am
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On 5/27/09 11:30 PM, in article
4a1e1369$0$11839$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.co m, "Howard"
<howardh@cybrstar.comnospam> wrote:

>
> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:C640314C.9C4F%epmeyer50@msn.com...
>> Call any Honda dealer. Give them the VIN number & they can tell you if
>> there are any recalls that apply and whether or not they were ever
>> performed
>> on that specific car.
>>
>> Recalls should not be a concern. If there are any outstanding, any/every
>> Honda dealer is required to perform them for free.
>>

> Recalls do expire!
>

That's true. They do expire if they are configured for xx many years or xx
many miles & some of them have a material effect on the worth of the car. I
personally would not touch a 2000 Acura TL or V6 Accord that fell under the
transmission recall/ warranty extension if the warranty extension has
expired, for example.

On the other hand, we're talking about a '97 Civic. If it has survived 12
years and counting without having received some particular recall, it
probably wasn't important anyway.

In any event, a call to any Honda dealer with the VIN number should resolve
whether there are any outstanding recalls for that specific car.

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Old 03 Jun 2009, 09:45 pm
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Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> :

>On 5/27/09 11:30 PM, in article
>4a1e1369$0$11839$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om, "Howard"
><howardh@cybrstar.comnospam> wrote:
>
>>
>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:C640314C.9C4F%epmeyer50@msn.com...
>>> Call any Honda dealer. Give them the VIN number & they can tell you if
>>> there are any recalls that apply and whether or not they were ever
>>> performed
>>> on that specific car.
>>>
>>> Recalls should not be a concern. If there are any outstanding, any/every
>>> Honda dealer is required to perform them for free.
>>>

>> Recalls do expire!
>>

>That's true. They do expire if they are configured for xx many years or xx
>many miles & some of them have a material effect on the worth of the car. I
>personally would not touch a 2000 Acura TL or V6 Accord that fell under the
>transmission recall/ warranty extension if the warranty extension has
>expired, for example.
>
>On the other hand, we're talking about a '97 Civic. If it has survived 12
>years and counting without having received some particular recall, it
>probably wasn't important anyway.
>
>In any event, a call to any Honda dealer with the VIN number should resolve
>whether there are any outstanding recalls for that specific car.


My 96 Civic had, IIRC, three "major" recalls, and one "piddly assed".
The latter was "driver's side floor mat could slide forward."

The major ones were a seatbelt release issue, an emissions issue
(which came with a free tuneup including plugs and wires) and one
having to do with the rear seat latch (coupe) sometimes not latching.

The emissions one had a mileage expiration, but no date, and the
others had no expiration.
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