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Old 10 Apr 2004, 01:18 pm
David M. Hitchner
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Default 1999 Accord Speedometer Adjustment?

I have a 1999 Honda Accord on which the speedoment is off. The speedometer
reads 64 mph when going 60 mph. The speedometer error increases as the speed
increases. I have the service manual but there is no mention of an
adjustment. Is there any way make an adjustment?

Thanks.
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Old 10 Apr 2004, 01:46 pm
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I don't know of any.

Look at the discrepancy as a way to keep from speeding. Actually, since you
know what the difference is, you can drive with the speedo reading a little
higher. I used a GPS and a long, straight stretch of road to "calibrate" my
speedo and make a little chart. After a while you won't need the chart.

Bearman


"David M. Hitchner" <biteme@spammers.net> wrote in message
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> I have a 1999 Honda Accord on which the speedoment is off. The

speedometer
> reads 64 mph when going 60 mph. The speedometer error increases as the

speed
> increases. I have the service manual but there is no mention of an
> adjustment. Is there any way make an adjustment?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> David M. Hitchner - K5DMH
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Old 10 Apr 2004, 03:54 pm
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Default Re: 1999 Accord Speedometer Adjustment?

I am not aware of any adjustment, short of getting bigger tires.
Speedometers always show a little too high. There was a thread about
this in the BMW NG recently. The service limit for BMW's is actual speed
+ 10% + 2.4 mph. So at 60 MPH the speedo could show 68.4 and BMW would
say that the speedo is within spec. As a practical matter, speedometers
are usually quite accurate instruments, but they are calibrated to show
a little too high.

"David M. Hitchner" wrote:
>
> I have a 1999 Honda Accord on which the speedoment is off. The speedometer
> reads 64 mph when going 60 mph. The speedometer error increases as the speed
> increases. I have the service manual but there is no mention of an
> adjustment. Is there any way make an adjustment?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> David M. Hitchner - K5DMH
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Old 10 Apr 2004, 10:00 pm
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Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:<40785FD5.3E0D84C9@junkmail.com>...
> I am not aware of any adjustment, short of getting bigger tires.
> Speedometers always show a little too high. There was a thread about
> this in the BMW NG recently. The service limit for BMW's is actual speed
> + 10% + 2.4 mph. So at 60 MPH the speedo could show 68.4 and BMW would
> say that the speedo is within spec. As a practical matter, speedometers
> are usually quite accurate instruments, but they are calibrated to show
> a little too high.
>


according to honda and federal laws, the speedo is allowed a 10%
variance either way.
Chip
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Old 10 Apr 2004, 11:33 pm
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"Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
news:5ddcea74.0404101900.7a707e9e@posting.google.c om...
> Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message

news:<40785FD5.3E0D84C9@junkmail.com>...
> > I am not aware of any adjustment, short of getting bigger tires.
> > Speedometers always show a little too high. There was a thread about
> > this in the BMW NG recently. The service limit for BMW's is actual speed
> > + 10% + 2.4 mph. So at 60 MPH the speedo could show 68.4 and BMW would
> > say that the speedo is within spec. As a practical matter, speedometers
> > are usually quite accurate instruments, but they are calibrated to show
> > a little too high.
> >

>
> according to honda and federal laws, the speedo is allowed a 10%
> variance either way.
> Chip


What law is that anyway? I'd like to print a copy to have in my glove box.
I'd like to see the official BMW spec sheet that says they allow +10%
+2mph, no minius allowed?? Sounds more like a "newsgroup expert on BMW" then
fact.


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Old 11 Apr 2004, 02:13 am
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Here is the BMW reference: http://ackthud.com/shawnfogg/pics/speed.jpg.

Regardless of local law, if your speedometer said 75 and a friendly
police officer clocked you at 78 and gave you a ticket, you might think
of asking BMW to pay that ticket. BMW (or any other auto maker) is
probably not too intrigued by that prospect, so they adjust the
speedometer to show a little high rather than a little low.

Bill wrote:

> What law is that anyway? I'd like to print a copy to have in my glove box.
> I'd like to see the official BMW spec sheet that says they allow +10%
> +2mph, no minius allowed?? Sounds more like a "newsgroup expert on BMW" then
> fact.

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Old 11 Apr 2004, 09:18 am
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David M. Hitchner wrote:
> I have a 1999 Honda Accord on which the speedoment is off. The
> speedometer reads 64 mph when going 60 mph. The speedometer error
> increases as the speed increases. I have the service manual but
> there is no mention of an adjustment. Is there any way make an
> adjustment?
>
> Thanks.


Have you changed your tires and/or rim size?


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Old 11 Apr 2004, 09:12 pm
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I have changed rims but they and the tires are the same size as the
original.


"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> David M. Hitchner wrote:
> > I have a 1999 Honda Accord on which the speedoment is off. The
> > speedometer reads 64 mph when going 60 mph. The speedometer error
> > increases as the speed increases. I have the service manual but
> > there is no mention of an adjustment. Is there any way make an
> > adjustment?
> >
> > Thanks.

>
> Have you changed your tires and/or rim size?
>
>



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Old 11 Apr 2004, 10:20 pm
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"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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> Here is the BMW reference: http://ackthud.com/shawnfogg/pics/speed.jpg.
>
> Regardless of local law, if your speedometer said 75 and a friendly
> police officer clocked you at 78 and gave you a ticket, you might think
> of asking BMW to pay that ticket. BMW (or any other auto maker) is
> probably not too intrigued by that prospect, so they adjust the
> speedometer to show a little high rather than a little low.
>
> Bill wrote:
>
> > What law is that anyway? I'd like to print a copy to have in my glove

box.
> > I'd like to see the official BMW spec sheet that says they allow +10%
> > +2mph, no minius allowed?? Sounds more like a "newsgroup expert on BMW"

then
> > fact.


Well there you go I asked and you supplied. I have to admit, it looks legit
to me. I guess that's why the old police car's speedos used to say
"Calibrated" on them.


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Old 11 Apr 2004, 10:41 pm
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Default Re: 1999 Accord Speedometer Adjustment?

I read the document you linked and I noticed an interesting fact. The
speedometer is calibrated to show a higher value on purpose, because the
odometer records the correct mileage. They could just as easily
calibrate it to show the proper speed, but they choose not to.

In my old Accord the speedometer was surprisingly accurate with less
than 2km/h over at 80km/h. The difference would increase slightly to
5km/h at 140km/h (I tested it against a gps). I haven't gotten a chance
to test this on my Prelude, but I have a feeling it will be within the
same limits.

I wonder why the BMW speedometer is so far off. I mean 10%+2.4mph is
quite a bit of an error. If they would use the same tolerances in all
the other parts inside the car, you'd probably drive a few miles and
stuff would start falling off...

Cosmin

Randolph wrote:

> Here is the BMW reference: http://ackthud.com/shawnfogg/pics/speed.jpg.
>
> Regardless of local law, if your speedometer said 75 and a friendly
> police officer clocked you at 78 and gave you a ticket, you might think
> of asking BMW to pay that ticket. BMW (or any other auto maker) is
> probably not too intrigued by that prospect, so they adjust the
> speedometer to show a little high rather than a little low.
>
> Bill wrote:
>
>
>>What law is that anyway? I'd like to print a copy to have in my glove box.
>> I'd like to see the official BMW spec sheet that says they allow +10%
>>+2mph, no minius allowed?? Sounds more like a "newsgroup expert on BMW" then
>>fact.

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