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Old 04 Apr 2004, 07:54 pm
LBJGH
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Default Considering Krown rust proofing on new Accord

As the title says... is it worth it? how are the newer Hondas for rust?


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Old 04 Apr 2004, 08:33 pm
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Default Re: Considering Krown rust proofing on new Accord

In article <p72cc.5085$L_8.3479@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rog ers.com>,
"LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote:

> As the title says... is it worth it? how are the newer Hondas for rust?


I have a 92 Civic Si, bought new, NOT garaged for the first couple years
of its life, not rustproofed, and not particularly cared for from a
wash/wax standpoint--and it still shines.

In addition, a couple of nicks in the paint specifically did NOT turn to
horrible rust, even after 5 years. Go figure.

There is now a little bubble of rust forming back in the rear wheel well.

And I live where it snows and where they use salt on the roads.

I'd say you're fine without it, frankly...

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Old 04 Apr 2004, 09:33 pm
Andy M --Tampa Bay--
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Default Re: Considering Krown rust proofing on new Accord

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article
>> <p72cc.5085$L_8.3479@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rog ers.com>, "LBJGH"
>> <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote:
>>
>>> As the title says... is it worth it? how are the newer Hondas for
>>> rust?

>>
>> I have a 92 Civic Si, bought new, NOT garaged for the first couple
>> years of its life, not rustproofed, and not particularly cared for
>> from a wash/wax standpoint--and it still shines.
>>
>> In addition, a couple of nicks in the paint specifically did NOT
>> turn to horrible rust, even after 5 years. Go figure.
>>
>> There is now a little bubble of rust forming back in the rear wheel
>> well.
>>
>> And I live where it snows and where they use salt on the roads.
>>
>> I'd say you're fine without it, frankly...


I'd say its another scam. I live in Florida and drive a 92 Accord. Just 2
minor rust spots, about 1-2 mm diameter, that i'll be getting rid off soon.
the car has spent all its 12 years down here... with all the humidity... no
problems.


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Old 04 Apr 2004, 09:59 pm
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Default Re: Considering Krown rust proofing on new Accord



Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <p72cc.5085$L_8.3479@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rog ers.com>,
> "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote:
>
>> As the title says... is it worth it? how are the newer Hondas for
>> rust?

>
> I have a 92 Civic Si, bought new, NOT garaged for the first couple
> years of its life, not rustproofed, and not particularly cared for
> from a wash/wax standpoint--and it still shines.
>
> In addition, a couple of nicks in the paint specifically did NOT turn
> to horrible rust, even after 5 years. Go figure.
>
> There is now a little bubble of rust forming back in the rear wheel
> well.
>
> And I live where it snows and where they use salt on the roads.
>
> I'd say you're fine without it, frankly...


Based on our 92 Accord that is just starting to show rust and not having any
additional undercoating treatments I would say it is not necessary and this
is in Canada with snow and salt as well.

Who knows however how current models will withstand the rigours of 10 to 12
years of driving? I would say it's anyones guess as I doubt there is anyway
of saying the current metals are as durable as those in past years. You
would pretty much have to be an engineer of some sort and run all kinds of
comarative tests to truly predict the outcome.

Just my thoughts from a pleased 14 yr owner of a trouble free car--only 1
non replaceable repair necessary in that time and that was an ignitor.

Mike


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Old 05 Apr 2004, 02:50 am
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Default Re: Considering Krown rust proofing on new Accord

Artfulcodger wrote:

[snip]

> Just my thoughts from a pleased 14 yr owner of a trouble free car--only 1
> non replaceable repair necessary in that time and that was an ignitor.
>
> Mike


Same goes for my 94 Accord, only this winter did rust start to appear
around the right rear wheel whell. No rust proofing on a car that spent
100% of its life in Toronto, and washing it only once or twice a month
during the winter. Keeping it in the garage every night was the only
thing I ever did to protect it.

I doubt it would have lasted longer, even with the rust proofing.
Especially since the rust proofing is usually applied to the places
Hondas don't rust. There is NO way it could be applied to the rear wheel
whells, where all 94-97 Accords start to rust first.

I wonder what are the problem spots for the 98-02 and the 03-04 Accords.
I guess we'll find out in about 6-10 years.

Cosmin
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Old 05 Apr 2004, 10:47 am
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Default Re: Considering Krown rust proofing on new Accord

Cosmin N. wrote:
>>
>> I wonder what are the problem spots for the 98-02 and the 03-04
>> Accords. I guess we'll find out in about 6-10 years.
>>
>> Cosmin


cheap paint? not enough undercoats and clear coats? coat-cutting measures
resulting in cost-cutting? that's not typical honda.


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Old 05 Apr 2004, 06:51 pm
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Default Re: Considering Krown rust proofing on new Accord

Thanks for the replys... I guess I'm good to go without the rust proofing
then... The only selling point was that Krown says they'll pay for any rust
related repairs (in accordance with there policy
http://krown.com/warranty.php#new ) . The cost is about $100/yr... that's
less than $10/month. I plan on keeping the car for a minimum of ten years.


"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
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> Artfulcodger wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Just my thoughts from a pleased 14 yr owner of a trouble free car--only

1
> > non replaceable repair necessary in that time and that was an ignitor.
> >
> > Mike

>
> Same goes for my 94 Accord, only this winter did rust start to appear
> around the right rear wheel whell. No rust proofing on a car that spent
> 100% of its life in Toronto, and washing it only once or twice a month
> during the winter. Keeping it in the garage every night was the only
> thing I ever did to protect it.
>
> I doubt it would have lasted longer, even with the rust proofing.
> Especially since the rust proofing is usually applied to the places
> Hondas don't rust. There is NO way it could be applied to the rear wheel
> whells, where all 94-97 Accords start to rust first.
>
> I wonder what are the problem spots for the 98-02 and the 03-04 Accords.
> I guess we'll find out in about 6-10 years.
>
> Cosmin



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Old 05 Apr 2004, 11:12 pm
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Default Re: Considering Krown rust proofing on new Accord

I used to sell cars - and rustproofing packages were a highly
profitable add-on. If rust shows up in 10 years you had better have
gone to each annual inspection (not free) and the rustproofer will
hopefully still be in business under the same name..it's not worth it.
Plus, often the rustproofing spray plugs up intneded drainholes in the
body - and ends up CAUSING rust instead of preventing it. Better to
leave it the way Honda meant it to work, in my opinion.

>Thanks for the replys... I guess I'm good to go without the rust proofing
>then... The only selling point was that Krown says they'll pay for any rust
>related repairs (in accordance with there policy
>http://krown.com/warranty.php#new ) . The cost is about $100/yr... that's
>less than $10/month. I plan on keeping the car for a minimum of ten years.
>
>
>"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>news:Ad8cc.9247$L_8.4413@news01.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
>> Artfulcodger wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > Just my thoughts from a pleased 14 yr owner of a trouble free car--only

>1
>> > non replaceable repair necessary in that time and that was an ignitor.
>> >
>> > Mike

>>
>> Same goes for my 94 Accord, only this winter did rust start to appear
>> around the right rear wheel whell. No rust proofing on a car that spent
>> 100% of its life in Toronto, and washing it only once or twice a month
>> during the winter. Keeping it in the garage every night was the only
>> thing I ever did to protect it.
>>
>> I doubt it would have lasted longer, even with the rust proofing.
>> Especially since the rust proofing is usually applied to the places
>> Hondas don't rust. There is NO way it could be applied to the rear wheel
>> whells, where all 94-97 Accords start to rust first.
>>
>> I wonder what are the problem spots for the 98-02 and the 03-04 Accords.
>> I guess we'll find out in about 6-10 years.
>>
>> Cosmin

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