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"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>
> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>> GasSaver wrote:
>>
>> <not much worth repeating>
>>
>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>
>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a patent,
>> or
>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a newsgroup)
>> then
>> you have nothing to hide.
>>
>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway mileage,
>> i.e.,
>> wind resistance.
>>
>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel
>> with
>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline consumption,
>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>
>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>> extra
>> HP
>> you claim to achieve?
>>
>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do actually
>> works as you claim.
>>
>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when a
>> real
>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>> automotive industry.
>>
>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>> legitimate.
>>
>
>
> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>
> www.extra150miles.com
>
> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
> always
> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt" We
> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>
> Cheers,
>
> GasSaver.
>
> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any models
> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
> www.extra150miles.com
>


This page should answer your questions:

http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html

Thanks.

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:15:19 -0700, "GasSaver"
<GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

>
>"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>>
>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>> GasSaver wrote:
>>>
>>> <not much worth repeating>
>>>
>>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>>
>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a patent,
>>> or
>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a newsgroup)
>>> then
>>> you have nothing to hide.
>>>
>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway mileage,
>>> i.e.,
>>> wind resistance.
>>>
>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel
>>> with
>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline consumption,
>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>>
>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>>> extra
>>> HP
>>> you claim to achieve?
>>>
>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do actually
>>> works as you claim.
>>>
>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when a
>>> real
>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>>> automotive industry.
>>>
>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>>> legitimate.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>>
>> www.extra150miles.com
>>
>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
>> always
>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt" We
>> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> GasSaver.
>>
>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any models
>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
>> www.extra150miles.com
>>
>
>
>This page should answer your questions:
>
>http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html

You can't even make your website work properly, why should we believe
you have shamed the engineering departments of Honda, Toyota, etc.?
(Hint: try wrapping the text.)

Quoting form the site:

"Here's what we do to triple the mileage, we improve your engine's
combustion, we eliminate frictions, and we turn frictions-to-energy by
applying electrical load to your alternator (briefly) when braking,
when slowing down and when coming down hill through a controller
below. When you accelerate, a device minimizes electrical load on
your alternator, and when you decelerate it applies beneficial load on
your alternator to convert magnetic friction into energy, to be stored
in your battery for the next powerful ignition cycle."

Except for the meaningless term "magnetic friction" Honda had this
feature on the Civic HF, a high mpg model in the 1980s. It provides a
tiny improvement in efficiency. You could save more gas by replacing
your spare tire with a can of fix-a-flat.

" Your battery will have plenty of juice every time before you
accelerate again and again. You can feel tremendous force / torque on
your vehicle even at 700RPM idle speed. Our technique is similar to a
hybrid braking concept except with ours you benefit more because a
hybrid's single brake action won't give you much power in return, in
general you brake 5% on highway, 25-35% in city."

The stock alternator cannot provide significant braking or
acceleration. The effect would not even be noticeable. Drivers can
experiment by turning high load devices on and off during
deceleration. Can you feel the deceleration effect of turning on the
rear window defroster?

And none of this has anything to do with friction.

In message <l0q0v4tv9tk605qaa582ibafa71a4gdhpo@4ax.com>, Gordon McGrew
<RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> writes
>The stock alternator cannot provide significant braking or
>acceleration.
Slight correction, the alternator cannot provide ANY acceleration.
--
Clive

GasSaver wrote:
> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>> GasSaver wrote:

>snip politely<
>
> This page should answer your questions:
>
> http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html
>
> Thanks.

Mr or Mrs GasSaver:
The web site is nice, and I am definitely interested. But you must have
missed my point. Can you show tests on this "technology" that can be
scrutinized by the public? In lieu of this, will you modify my vehicle,
let me try it out, then pay you when I am satisfied it works?

"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:l0q0v4tv9tk605qaa582ibafa71a4gdhpo@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:15:19 -0700, "GasSaver"
> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>>>
>>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>>> GasSaver wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <not much worth repeating>
>>>>
>>>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>>>
>>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a patent,
>>>> or
>>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a newsgroup)
>>>> then
>>>> you have nothing to hide.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway mileage,
>>>> i.e.,
>>>> wind resistance.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel
>>>> with
>>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline
>>>> consumption,
>>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>>>
>>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>>>> extra
>>>> HP
>>>> you claim to achieve?
>>>>
>>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do
>>>> actually
>>>> works as you claim.
>>>>
>>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when
>>>> a
>>>> real
>>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>>>> automotive industry.
>>>>
>>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>>>> legitimate.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>>>
>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>
>>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
>>> always
>>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt"
>>> We
>>> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> GasSaver.
>>>
>>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any
>>> models
>>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
>>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>This page should answer your questions:
>>
>>http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html
>
> You can't even make your website work properly, why should we believe
> you have shamed the engineering departments of Honda, Toyota, etc.?
> (Hint: try wrapping the text.)
>
> Quoting form the site:
>
> "Here's what we do to triple the mileage, we improve your engine's
> combustion, we eliminate frictions, and we turn frictions-to-energy by
> applying electrical load to your alternator (briefly) when braking,
> when slowing down and when coming down hill through a controller
> below. When you accelerate, a device minimizes electrical load on
> your alternator, and when you decelerate it applies beneficial load on
> your alternator to convert magnetic friction into energy, to be stored
> in your battery for the next powerful ignition cycle."
>
> Except for the meaningless term "magnetic friction" Honda had this
> feature on the Civic HF, a high mpg model in the 1980s. It provides a
> tiny improvement in efficiency. You could save more gas by replacing
> your spare tire with a can of fix-a-flat.
>
> " Your battery will have plenty of juice every time before you
> accelerate again and again. You can feel tremendous force / torque on
> your vehicle even at 700RPM idle speed. Our technique is similar to a
> hybrid braking concept except with ours you benefit more because a
> hybrid's single brake action won't give you much power in return, in
> general you brake 5% on highway, 25-35% in city."
>
> The stock alternator cannot provide significant braking or
> acceleration. The effect would not even be noticeable. Drivers can
> experiment by turning high load devices on and off during
> deceleration. Can you feel the deceleration effect of turning on the
> rear window defroster?
>
> And none of this has anything to do with friction.

Gordon... listen my man,

You don't know what you're talking about or you're talking about your extra
old technology or you're referencing your old discovery. The world is not
black and white!! One parameter change can affect the whole scenario!!
Too many bugs in your technology that prevent you from seeing the truth.
Until you've seen the correction we did first, see it running with your
eyes. No need to go further with you guys. You guys have too much WMD's
in your heads. Clear that first then you will see.

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:02:55 -0700, "GasSaver"
<GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:l0q0v4tv9tk605qaa582ibafa71a4gdhpo@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:15:19 -0700, "GasSaver"
>> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>>>>
>>>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>>>> GasSaver wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <not much worth repeating>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a patent,
>>>>> or
>>>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a newsgroup)
>>>>> then
>>>>> you have nothing to hide.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway mileage,
>>>>> i.e.,
>>>>> wind resistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the fuel
>>>>> with
>>>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline
>>>>> consumption,
>>>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>>>>> extra
>>>>> HP
>>>>> you claim to achieve?
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do
>>>>> actually
>>>>> works as you claim.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time, when
>>>>> a
>>>>> real
>>>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>>>>> automotive industry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>>>>> legitimate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>>>>
>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>
>>>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
>>>> always
>>>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt"
>>>> We
>>>> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> GasSaver.
>>>>
>>>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any
>>>> models
>>>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
>>>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This page should answer your questions:
>>>
>>>http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html
>>
>> You can't even make your website work properly, why should we believe
>> you have shamed the engineering departments of Honda, Toyota, etc.?
>> (Hint: try wrapping the text.)
>>
>> Quoting form the site:
>>
>> "Here's what we do to triple the mileage, we improve your engine's
>> combustion, we eliminate frictions, and we turn frictions-to-energy by
>> applying electrical load to your alternator (briefly) when braking,
>> when slowing down and when coming down hill through a controller
>> below. When you accelerate, a device minimizes electrical load on
>> your alternator, and when you decelerate it applies beneficial load on
>> your alternator to convert magnetic friction into energy, to be stored
>> in your battery for the next powerful ignition cycle."
>>
>> Except for the meaningless term "magnetic friction" Honda had this
>> feature on the Civic HF, a high mpg model in the 1980s. It provides a
>> tiny improvement in efficiency. You could save more gas by replacing
>> your spare tire with a can of fix-a-flat.
>>
>> " Your battery will have plenty of juice every time before you
>> accelerate again and again. You can feel tremendous force / torque on
>> your vehicle even at 700RPM idle speed. Our technique is similar to a
>> hybrid braking concept except with ours you benefit more because a
>> hybrid's single brake action won't give you much power in return, in
>> general you brake 5% on highway, 25-35% in city."
>>
>> The stock alternator cannot provide significant braking or
>> acceleration. The effect would not even be noticeable. Drivers can
>> experiment by turning high load devices on and off during
>> deceleration. Can you feel the deceleration effect of turning on the
>> rear window defroster?
>>
>> And none of this has anything to do with friction.
>
>Gordon... listen my man,
>
>You don't know what you're talking about or you're talking about your extra
>old technology or you're referencing your old discovery.

I don't have any technology or discovery. I only know the laws of
physics. Except for this trivial alternator trick, you don't even
attempt to explain your technology. Show us the calculations. Where
are the Joules coming from? If you can't explain the physics, it is
just magic and magic doesn't work.

>The world is not
>black and white!! One parameter change can affect the whole scenario!!
>Too many bugs in your technology that prevent you from seeing the truth.
>Until you've seen the correction we did first, see it running with your
>eyes. No need to go further with you guys. You guys have too much WMD's
>in your heads. Clear that first then you will see.

Some people are calling you a fraud but I really am leaning toward
lunatic. Hucksters aren't usually as incoherent as you are.






>
>
>
>
>

"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:6s72v4t8f9kch5d8oeiddbvi57qvtakklu@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:02:55 -0700, "GasSaver"
> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:l0q0v4tv9tk605qaa582ibafa71a4gdhpo@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:15:19 -0700, "GasSaver"
>>> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>>>>>
>>>>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>>>>> GasSaver wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <not much worth repeating>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a
>>>>>> patent,
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a
>>>>>> newsgroup)
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> you have nothing to hide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway
>>>>>> mileage,
>>>>>> i.e.,
>>>>>> wind resistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the
>>>>>> fuel
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline
>>>>>> consumption,
>>>>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>>>>>> extra
>>>>>> HP
>>>>>> you claim to achieve?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> works as you claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time,
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> real
>>>>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>>>>>> automotive industry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>>>>>> legitimate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>
>>>>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
>>>>> always
>>>>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt"
>>>>> We
>>>>> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> GasSaver.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any
>>>>> models
>>>>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
>>>>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This page should answer your questions:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html
>>>
>>> You can't even make your website work properly, why should we believe
>>> you have shamed the engineering departments of Honda, Toyota, etc.?
>>> (Hint: try wrapping the text.)
>>>
>>> Quoting form the site:
>>>
>>> "Here's what we do to triple the mileage, we improve your engine's
>>> combustion, we eliminate frictions, and we turn frictions-to-energy by
>>> applying electrical load to your alternator (briefly) when braking,
>>> when slowing down and when coming down hill through a controller
>>> below. When you accelerate, a device minimizes electrical load on
>>> your alternator, and when you decelerate it applies beneficial load on
>>> your alternator to convert magnetic friction into energy, to be stored
>>> in your battery for the next powerful ignition cycle."
>>>
>>> Except for the meaningless term "magnetic friction" Honda had this
>>> feature on the Civic HF, a high mpg model in the 1980s. It provides a
>>> tiny improvement in efficiency. You could save more gas by replacing
>>> your spare tire with a can of fix-a-flat.
>>>
>>> " Your battery will have plenty of juice every time before you
>>> accelerate again and again. You can feel tremendous force / torque on
>>> your vehicle even at 700RPM idle speed. Our technique is similar to a
>>> hybrid braking concept except with ours you benefit more because a
>>> hybrid's single brake action won't give you much power in return, in
>>> general you brake 5% on highway, 25-35% in city."
>>>
>>> The stock alternator cannot provide significant braking or
>>> acceleration. The effect would not even be noticeable. Drivers can
>>> experiment by turning high load devices on and off during
>>> deceleration. Can you feel the deceleration effect of turning on the
>>> rear window defroster?
>>>
>>> And none of this has anything to do with friction.
>>
>>Gordon... listen my man,
>>
>>You don't know what you're talking about or you're talking about your
>>extra
>>old technology or you're referencing your old discovery.
>
> I don't have any technology or discovery. I only know the laws of
> physics. Except for this trivial alternator trick, you don't even
> attempt to explain your technology. Show us the calculations. Where
> are the Joules coming from? If you can't explain the physics, it is
> just magic and magic doesn't work.
>
>>The world is not
>>black and white!! One parameter change can affect the whole scenario!!
>>Too many bugs in your technology that prevent you from seeing the truth.
>>Until you've seen the correction we did first, see it running with your
>>eyes. No need to go further with you guys. You guys have too much
>>WMD's
>>in your heads. Clear that first then you will see.
>
> Some people are calling you a fraud but I really am leaning toward
> lunatic. Hucksters aren't usually as incoherent as you are.


I don't care for opinion from uneducated people. You people kept thinking
wrong to say "If it's true why can't automakers come up with the same
wonderful solution?" There is only 1 Jesus, 1 Einstein. Why are you
equalizing people arbitrarily?

You will never be able to fix your Auto problems until you are born again
with a new set of thinking. Your illogical comparison fail to save you
people. Don't come to our shops for service or for a demo.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:58:30 -0700, "GasSaver"
<GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:6s72v4t8f9kch5d8oeiddbvi57qvtakklu@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:02:55 -0700, "GasSaver"
>> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>news:l0q0v4tv9tk605qaa582ibafa71a4gdhpo@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:15:19 -0700, "GasSaver"
>>>> <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote in message news:...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "joe" <none@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:NFiHl.69242$ua7.8564@newsfe17.iad...
>>>>>>> GasSaver wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <not much worth repeating>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to be taken seriously,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Explain how your improvement works. If you've applied for a
>>>>>>> patent,
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> offered your product for general sale (like hawking it on a
>>>>>>> newsgroup)
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> you have nothing to hide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Explain how you account for the dominant factor in highway
>>>>>>> mileage,
>>>>>>> i.e.,
>>>>>>> wind resistance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Are you actually reducing fuel consumption, or augmenting the
>>>>>>> fuel
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> an alternative, like propane, which can reduce the gasoline
>>>>>>> consumption,
>>>>>>> but does not reduce the overall fuel consumption?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) Do you modify the entire drive train to handle the stress of the
>>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>> HP
>>>>>>> you claim to achieve?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5) Show us independent, credible, verification that what you do
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> works as you claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6) Explain why you are trying to make it rich one car at a time,
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>> invention with the benefits you claim would be worth millions to the
>>>>>>> automotive industry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until you can show the above, I won't consider your claims to be
>>>>>>> legitimate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe, please go to this web-site:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It will open your mind. If you bought a hybrid already then you can
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> resell it. The word "1-yr Warranty will be printed on your receipt"
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> are law-abiding company and citizens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GasSaver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW - We already reached 90-mpg on converting Mercedes-Benz's any
>>>>>> models
>>>>>> C220 - E320 to triple mileage with superior power. Thanks to our
>>>>>> Friction-2-Energy technology, it makes a big difference.
>>>>>> www.extra150miles.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This page should answer your questions:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.extra150miles.com/frictions.html
>>>>
>>>> You can't even make your website work properly, why should we believe
>>>> you have shamed the engineering departments of Honda, Toyota, etc.?
>>>> (Hint: try wrapping the text.)
>>>>
>>>> Quoting form the site:
>>>>
>>>> "Here's what we do to triple the mileage, we improve your engine's
>>>> combustion, we eliminate frictions, and we turn frictions-to-energy by
>>>> applying electrical load to your alternator (briefly) when braking,
>>>> when slowing down and when coming down hill through a controller
>>>> below. When you accelerate, a device minimizes electrical load on
>>>> your alternator, and when you decelerate it applies beneficial load on
>>>> your alternator to convert magnetic friction into energy, to be stored
>>>> in your battery for the next powerful ignition cycle."
>>>>
>>>> Except for the meaningless term "magnetic friction" Honda had this
>>>> feature on the Civic HF, a high mpg model in the 1980s. It provides a
>>>> tiny improvement in efficiency. You could save more gas by replacing
>>>> your spare tire with a can of fix-a-flat.
>>>>
>>>> " Your battery will have plenty of juice every time before you
>>>> accelerate again and again. You can feel tremendous force / torque on
>>>> your vehicle even at 700RPM idle speed. Our technique is similar to a
>>>> hybrid braking concept except with ours you benefit more because a
>>>> hybrid's single brake action won't give you much power in return, in
>>>> general you brake 5% on highway, 25-35% in city."
>>>>
>>>> The stock alternator cannot provide significant braking or
>>>> acceleration. The effect would not even be noticeable. Drivers can
>>>> experiment by turning high load devices on and off during
>>>> deceleration. Can you feel the deceleration effect of turning on the
>>>> rear window defroster?
>>>>
>>>> And none of this has anything to do with friction.
>>>
>>>Gordon... listen my man,
>>>
>>>You don't know what you're talking about or you're talking about your
>>>extra
>>>old technology or you're referencing your old discovery.
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>> I don't have any technology or discovery. I only know the laws of
>> physics. Except for this trivial alternator trick, you don't even
>> attempt to explain your technology. Show us the calculations. Where
>> are the Joules coming from? If you can't explain the physics, it is
>> just magic and magic doesn't work.
>>
>>>The world is not
>>>black and white!! One parameter change can affect the whole scenario!!
>>>Too many bugs in your technology that prevent you from seeing the truth.
>>>Until you've seen the correction we did first, see it running with your
>>>eyes. No need to go further with you guys. You guys have too much
>>>WMD's
>>>in your heads. Clear that first then you will see.
>>
>> Some people are calling you a fraud but I really am leaning toward
>> lunatic. Hucksters aren't usually as incoherent as you are.
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>I don't care for opinion from uneducated people. You people kept thinking
>wrong to say "If it's true why can't automakers come up with the same
>wonderful solution?" There is only 1 Jesus, 1 Einstein. Why are you
>equalizing people arbitrarily?

I wouldn't dream of it. You are in no way the equal of the engineer
Honda has designing cupholders.

>You will never be able to fix your Auto problems until you are born again
>with a new set of thinking. Your illogical comparison fail to save you
>people.

I'm not comparing you to a lunatic. I am saying you are a lunatic.

> Don't come to our shops for service or for a demo.

It would be good for a laugh. Can anyone in the area go there with a
video camera and post it on youtube?




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