Honda Car Forum

"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Thus spake Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> :
>
>>On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:59:21 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>><michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <dtOdnTvmtNu4lHPUnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@posted.toastnet> ,
>>> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas
>>>> mileage then some normal cars? ...
>>>> http://www.hybridcars.com/news/detro...ght-25413.html
>>>
>>>What normal cars get better gas mileage than the Insight? The morons on
>>>that site are trying to compare their own mileage with the Insight's EPA
>>>estimated mileage, and that's an invalid comparison. Further, the Yaris
>>>and the Insight are different classes of cars, further making the
>>>comparison invalid.
>>>
>>>Oh, and I'm a Prius owner, and I doubt that I'd ever buy an Insight.


Agreed.



>>If you go here:
>>http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm
>>you can look up EPA and actual user mpg for most cars. Look at 2008
>>models to get a good population of real owners' fuel economy
>>experiences. The most efficient cars are:
>>
>>2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners)
>>Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104)
>>Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49)
>>Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40)
>>
These little cars will send you to cemetery quicker than you think, No
protection, Too thin. Until something terrible happened first then you'll
learn.

Plus, below is the thing unwise thinkers usually fall for:

> How to Build a Hydrogen Gas Generator - Increase Your Gas Mileage
> http://automotive-industry-news.50we..._Generator.htm

Even with 2-psi LPG (Propane gas) it can't move your car, why do you people
think it's going to save you gas?

GasSaver <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

> >>2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners)
> >>Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104)
> >>Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49)
> >>Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40)
> >>
> These little cars will send you to cemetery quicker than you think, No
> protection, Too thin. Until something terrible happened first then you'll
> learn.

"These little cars"? Your so-called credibility drops with each post you
make. The Prius is _not_ a little car by any means, and it does
extremely well in crash tests. Ask the SUV driver who rear-ended my car
last summer how well a Prius holds up in an accident. Her SUV needed to
be towed, I just needed my bumper replaced.

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:27:22 -0500, Dillon Pyron
<invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Thus spake Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> :
>
>>On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:59:21 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>><michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <dtOdnTvmtNu4lHPUnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@posted.toastnet> ,
>>> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why would Honda think that I'd want a hybrid that gets worse gas
>>>> mileage then some normal cars? ...
>>>> http://www.hybridcars.com/news/detro...ght-25413.html
>>>
>>>What normal cars get better gas mileage than the Insight? The morons on
>>>that site are trying to compare their own mileage with the Insight's EPA
>>>estimated mileage, and that's an invalid comparison. Further, the Yaris
>>>and the Insight are different classes of cars, further making the
>>>comparison invalid.
>>>
>>>Oh, and I'm a Prius owner, and I doubt that I'd ever buy an Insight.
>>
>>
>>
>>If you go here:
>>
>>http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm
>>
>>you can look up EPA and actual user mpg for most cars. Look at 2008
>>models to get a good population of real owners' fuel economy
>>experiences. The most efficient cars are:
>>
>>2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners)
>>Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104)
>>Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49)
>>Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40)
>>
>>So what have we learned?
>>
>>1. The top hybrids both get significantly better mileage than the
>>teeny tiny Smart car, and way better than any other gas or diesel car
>>on the market.
>>
>>2. The top hybrids both beat their EPA overall estimates, by a pretty
>>big margin in the case of the Honda.
>
>As was pointed out, a lot depends on the driving technique. When I
>drive my Fit "conservatively", I can usually get 32 or so in town.
>When I drive like I normally do, I get around 28.

Wow, I can drive my GS-R like I stole it and still get 24mpg. I don't
know how much more I could if I drove it conservatively because I have
only had the car 12 years and I haven't gotten around to testing that
yet ;-)

>When I make my occasional long haul (like the 240 miles to Houston), I
>can get 35 at an average of 75.

The GS-R still gets about 24 mpg at a constant 75.

>>
>>3. GasSaver is a lying sack of shit. No, wait. We already knew that.
>>
>
>Perhaps if he built a car that ran on methane, he could compost his
>bullshit, extract the gas and go forever.

At least the thermodynamics work out on that plan.

In article <1iyoqcd.gtr1kf7x5yv2N%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult. com>,
mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> > >>2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners)
> > >>Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104)
> > >>Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49)
> > >>Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40)
> > >>
> > These little cars will send you to cemetery quicker than you think,
> > No protection, Too thin. Until something terrible happened first
> > then you'll learn.
>
> "These little cars"? Your so-called credibility drops with each post
> you make. The Prius is _not_ a little car by any means, and it does
> extremely well in crash tests.

Maybe he meant the Smart for 2.

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Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > >>2008 Model EPA city/hwy/comb. Owner mpg (# owners)
> > > >>Prius 48/45/46 46.2 (104)
> > > >>Civic Hybrid 40/45/42 45.7 (49)
> > > >>Smart For2 33/41/36 38.5 (40)
> > > >>
> > > These little cars will send you to cemetery quicker than you think,
> > > No protection, Too thin. Until something terrible happened first
> > > then you'll learn.
> >
> > "These little cars"? Your so-called credibility drops with each post
> > you make. The Prius is _not_ a little car by any means, and it does
> > extremely well in crash tests.
>
> Maybe he meant the Smart for 2.

Well, if he meant only that one, he should have made it clear. However,
from another post of his (you'll likely have read it by the time you
read this post), it's clear he claims the Prius is a death trap.

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Thus spake "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> :

<snip>

>
>Plus, below is the thing unwise thinkers usually fall for:
>
>> How to Build a Hydrogen Gas Generator - Increase Your Gas Mileage
>> http://automotive-industry-news.50we..._Generator.htm
>
>Even with 2-psi LPG (Propane gas) it can't move your car, why do you people
>think it's going to save you gas?
>
>

Ah, one snake oil seller recognizes another one.
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