Honda Car Forum

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
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> Just a general observation here, a friend has been fiddlin' with hydrogen
> assist and insists that he's getting better than 30mpg in an older
> Suburban...
>
> JT
>
Today I read that the University of North Dakota has solved the hydrogen
infrastructure problem. You can read about their work here:

http://www.undeerc.org/news/newsitem.aspx?id=340

I poked around their site a bit without finding out what happens to the
carbon. Obviously making hydrogen from gasoline and ethanol doesn't address
the peak oil problem or the ethanol acreage problem, but it may mitigate
climate change. At a minimum, solving the infrastructure problem will let
hydrogen powered cars move mainstream while alternative techniques are
developed.

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:39:16 -0700, "GasSaver"
<GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:smv7u456gu1odgkmold4h0iub0n1ra1r6j@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:11:57 -0700, "GasSaver"
>> <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only
>>>4%
>>>of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X.
>>>
>>>Although we got 60-65mpg on our 2-ton Mercedes-Benz C280, we only claim
>>>50mpg. On a bad traffic day it's doing 42mpg while a hybrid doing
>>>25-32mpg. Over 20,000 miles have been tested. Please prove us wrong by
>>>bringing your hybrid to compare, we'll give you a special discount for
>>>helping us help America, please email FreeEnergy@extra150miles.com to
>>>participate in a comparison (for Seattle hybrid owners only).
>>>
>>>
>>>PS. In terms of power, we beat all BMW's series, and toe-to-toe with
>>>2006
>>>Dodge Charger Police. The best of all, we save fuel by as much as 2X.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you for helping America reducing foreign oil dependency.
>>
>> Bernie Madoff? Is that you?
>>
>
>On LSD Gordon?
>
>TODAY THIS IS YOU:
>
>Full tank = 400 miles @ 50MPG Why?? - PriusChat Forums
>I've never seen the first bubble go to blinking so fast before. ..... Drove
>42 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, <<< Very poor...
>
>
>THIS IS ME:
>My green Mercedes-Benz C280, Full tank = 740 miles @ 58MPG Drove
>68 miles, and still on full tank! busyrosy, Power Equal to Police Car.
>"Optimum Fuel Systems" did it.

My red Acura - tank empty = 2000 miles @ infinity mpg and the tank is
now full. Power = the Space Shuttle. Me laughing at you did it.

>Tomorrow:
>Even if you can go with your 2010 Prius for 640 miles you''ll still will be
>a loser.
>
>I see I already beat you in both power and fuel efficiency. Let's raise in
>front of the medias. Prove me wrong and I won't come back to bother you.
>Deal?

Tomorrow you will claim your C280 did better than my Acura.

Hey dipshit. If you can prove what you say, why aren't you on TV
rather than on usenet?






>
>
>Let's start from Seattle or Portland, going toward California, see who will
>get there first and who will run out of fuel first.
>
>Go ahead and contact the medias to schedule the date and email me.
>
>GasSaver@extra150miles.come
>

"GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only 4%
> of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly 2X.
>
Yeah Yeah Yeah

If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every
vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~)

"Ttoommy" <tt0ommy@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net...
>>
>> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only
>> 4%
>> of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly
>> 2X.
>>
> Yeah Yeah Yeah
>
> If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every
> vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~)
>


You just claim you can do thing without resources. Any one with common
sense knows that's impractical.

Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving me a
bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact you're driving
a turtle that sucks all your gases. The mistakes you made are:

1) You bought a turtle hybrid, unsafe, not enough room.

2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do, they
call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up.

GasSaver

"Oldphart" <mfj1952deletethis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> GasSaver wrote:
>> "Ttoommy" <tt0ommy@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:74vvakF15lgb2U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net...
>>>> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only
>>>> 4%
>>>> of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly
>>>> 2X.
>>>>
>>> Yeah Yeah Yeah
>>>
>>> If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every
>>> vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~)
>>>
>>
>>
>> You just claim you can do thing without resources. Any one with common
>> sense knows that's impractical.
>
> <snip>
>
> Where is your documentation? How does your claim work? If there is
> nothing concrete for others to look at, then the old saying "A fool and
> his money are soon parted". Trust is earned, not sold on a soapbox.

This old fart would like to have their patent number. I'm always looking
for a sure-fire investment opportunity like, for example, buying my Prius.

GasSaver wrote:
> "Ttoommy" <tt0ommy@googlemail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:74vvakF15lgb2U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "GasSaver" <GasSaver@NoResponse.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:wqydncbCybtgoX_UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@posted.toast net...
>>> We have transformed regular vehicles into hybrid-like vehicles for only
>>> 4%
>>> of a hybrid cost. Not only that, the horse power is increased nearly
>>> 2X.
>>>
>> Yeah Yeah Yeah
>>
>> If its SO GREAT then why don't manufacturers do it? they'd sell every
>> vehicle they could produce twice over i.e 2X ;-~~)
>>
>
>
> You just claim you can do thing without resources. Any one with common
> sense knows that's impractical.

<snip>

Where is your documentation? How does your claim work? If there is
nothing concrete for others to look at, then the old saying "A fool and
his money are soon parted". Trust is earned, not sold on a soapbox.

In article <N-GdnVHGR92GD3HUnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@posted.toastnet>,
"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

> Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving
> me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact
> you're driving a turtle that sucks all your gases. The mistakes you
> made are:
>
> 1) You bought a turtle hybrid, unsafe, not enough room.
>
> 2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do,
> they call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up.

Thus demonstrating that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles.

Thanks for proving that you are a charlatan and a fraud.

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"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
news:michelle-37832E.11043720042009@mara100-84.onlink.net...
> In article <N-GdnVHGR92GD3HUnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@posted.toastnet>,
> "GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's the thing, when I drive behind you, all you do to me is giving
>> me a bad look and accusing me of driving aggressive when in fact
>> you're driving a turtle that sucks all your gases. The mistakes you
>> made are:
>>
>> 1) You bought a turtle hybrid, unsafe, not enough room.
>>
>> 2) You made the Japanese rich because they do the same thing we do,
>> they call theirs a hybrid. We call it ours a Tune-up.
>
> Thus demonstrating that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles.
> Thanks for proving that you are a charlatan and a fraud.


Michelle Steiner claims she knows alot about fraud and hybrid vehicles,
here you go:


1) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Honda Sued Over Hybrid Mileage

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...sued-over.html


2) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Why hybrids are crap:

>"Ted" <the_busmaster@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:4608b6fd-9d52-4ea4-a96e->4e8285dfbfd9@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>I just returned from a 700 mile trip up and across NY State. It
> included mountainous terrain and an average speed of 70+ mph (with the
> A/C on). I got 28 mpg all told. What I find amazing is that this is
> a 3700 lb plus car with 3 fairly heavy people. The car was an 07
> Malibu Maxx SS with the 3.9L engine. On the other hand, making this
> same trip with a Honda Civic Hybrid, I only got about 8 mpg more. I
> had to take hills into more consideration as the car was underpowered.
> To go with that, I had to leave the A/C off, go slower because the
> ultra super low rolling resistance tires tended to skid when braking,
> and I got a sore behind in the bargain from being shoved into a tin
> can. I think we have and do make wonderful cars.



*** Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and
call their vehicle a hybrid.

Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your
whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. I
take it Michelle works for a car dealer.

In article <_7mdnb_EacjMxXDUnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@posted.toastnet> ,
"GasSaver" <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner claims she knows alot about fraud and hybrid
> vehicles, here you go:

No, I didn't make any such claim, you liar. I said that you
demonstrated that you don't know anything about hybrid vehicles. I do
know enough about fraud to know that you are a fraud.

> *** Some companies just turn an alternator into a DC motor and call
> their vehicle a hybrid.

Perhaps, but Toyota isn't one of them.

> Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of
> your whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy
> batteries.

And yet again, you show that you don't know anything about hybrid
technology.

By the way, "Ted" had no chance in hell of winning that bogus law suit,
as clearly explained at the URL you so kindly provided:

We scoff a bit because Honda doesn¹t set the figures on the sticker,
the Environmental Protection Agency does.. We¹re no legal experts,
but we don¹t understand how an automaker can be at fault for being
forced to put EPA figures on a sticker. The EPA also admitted that
the tests that led to 2007 and earlier figures were not accurate and
instituted new tests, resulting in lower mileage figures.

Mileage also varies due to driver habits, especially with hybrids.
Automotive journalists can tell you that driving a car at its limits
for a week won¹t return the normal day-to-day commute numbers that
owners experience.

> I take it Michelle works for a car dealer.

Wrong again.

If you had any sense at all, you would know that no one here believes
your malarkey.

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GasSaver <GasSaverNospam@Extra150miles.com> wrote:

> Ted is right, ask yourself how often do you brake any way? 5% of your
> whole trip? That's why you don't gain much from your heavy batteries. I
> take it Michelle works for a car dealer.

Um, she doesn't now nor has she ever. Anyway, do you think it's good
advertising for your business to antagonize people around the world?
Every time you post here, you damage your reputation, if that's even
possible anymore.

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