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<8d121eff-d2f5-4e4d-85c8-20598b872323@y9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
rick++ <rick303@hotmail.com> writes
>Why does it have to be a war?
>Under new mileage laws most vehicles will need hybrid technology
>next decade.
>Plus $5 - $10 gasoline WILL return in a matter of time.
>Better to work the bugs out now before get into high volumes.
Here in the UK we already pay over £4 a gallon what's that in your
money?
--
Clive

On Apr 13, 10:28*am, Clive <Cl...@yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Here in the UK we already pay over £4 a gallon what's that in your
> money?

At first glance, that would be $5.93, but a British gallon is larger
than a US gallon so the UK price would be $5.00 per US gallon.

--
Ron

"Clive" <Clive@yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:e33c6rABo14JFwPD@yewbank.demon.co.uk...
> In message
> <8d121eff-d2f5-4e4d-85c8-20598b872323@y9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, rick++
> <rick303@hotmail.com> writes
>>Why does it have to be a war?
>>Under new mileage laws most vehicles will need hybrid technology
>>next decade.
>>Plus $5 - $10 gasoline WILL return in a matter of time.
>>Better to work the bugs out now before get into high volumes.
> Here in the UK we already pay over £4 a gallon what's that in your money?
> --
> Clive
A little under $6.00. Doesn't that higher tax pay for your health care too?
If we added our health care costs to our gas costs we would be paying about
$10.00 gallon right now.

Elmo P. Shagnasty schreef:
> In article
> <d5645727-c223-4a20-8fcb-301320e93712@k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
> residualselfimage1999@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The joystick-parking button drive mode gave me strangest feeling
>> of all the really big differences - rather than have a different
>> position
>> for each drive mode (R,N,D,P,B) the joystick position normally is
>> in only one position and moving the joystick in a particular direction
>> (up, down, right, left) selects a drive mode. However, in order for
>> that drive mode to be selected the driver must press the brake
>> pedal (like a manual transmission clutch) to change the drive
>> mode
>
> Ummmmm.....actually, one needs press the brake pedal only to shift OUT
> of park.
>
> Not sure what you THINK you had to do, but if you were pressing the
> brake pedal to shift from D to N or B, you were doing it wrong.
>
When I backup from my driveway I switch from R to D without even
touching my brake. It works very smoothly. Only if you switch from N or
P to any drive mode you have to press the brake pedal, just like any
other automatic.
Thibaud

On Apr 13, 2:33 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:

> At first glance, that would be $5.93, but a British gallon is larger
> than a US gallon so the UK price would be $5.00 per US gallon.

It reached $8 last year before the Pound tumbled.

On Apr 13, 6:29*am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <d5645727-c223-4a20-8fcb-301320e93...@k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
>
> *residualselfimage1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The joystick-parking button drive mode gave me strangest feeling
> > of all the really big differences - rather than have a different
> > position
> > for each drive mode (R,N,D,P,B) the joystick position normally is
> > in only one position and moving the joystick in a particular direction
> > (up, down, right, left) selects a drive mode. However, in order for
> > that drive mode to be selected the driver must press the brake
> > pedal (like a manual transmission clutch) to change the drive
> > mode
>
> Ummmmm.....actually, one needs press the brake pedal only to shift OUT
> of park.
>
> Not sure what you THINK you had to do, but if you were pressing the
> brake pedal to shift from D to N or B, you were doing it wrong.
>
> What else were you doing wrong?


I only had a 30 second review of the operations of the Prius from
the rental agency - so initially what I knew was from the internet.
Luckily - there was an owner's manual in glove compartment
and I spent some time reading that on the second day I had
the car. Renting a Prius was a great way to learn more about
the it - I wish I could rent an Insight too ( but I don't think that
opportunity will arise atleast not locally where I live).

I think user manual should have spent more time explaining their
unique drive mode shifter - which I think was different enough from
standard transmission systems to warrant more space in the
user manual

However, even after reading the manual, I found that when I
I was getting the car out of park I would occasionally
shift it into drive when I meant to shift it into reverse. - and vice
versa. It was only when I focus on the blue LED display
that I could consistently do it right.


>
> > I've also read that the Prius' low rolling friction
> > tires don't perform that well in rain and snow....
>
> I read that too--and yet, I went through 40K miles and two winters
> without a hint of problem. *Go figure.


I'm not sure whether to believe or discount what I've
been reading on the internet. However, it did freak me
out and when it was raining last saturday - i didn't
drive the prius.... I should have driven it in the rain
maybe in a empty parking lot to test the braking
in the rain - but I chickened out.

thanks for replying to my posting it was very informative.


On Apr 13, 2:24*am, Michelle Steiner <miche...@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article
> <d5645727-c223-4a20-8fcb-301320e93...@k2g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
>
> *residualselfimage1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > so I found myself constantly looking at the LED display to determine
> > if I was in the correct drive mode.
>
> Considering that there is only one drive mode, you're always in the
> correct drive mode. *"B" is not a drive mode, and shouldn't be used
> except when driving on a long downhill. *It took me less than an hour
> for that selector to become second nature.

hmm... considering that CVT and hybrids are
the wave of the future - I hope all this becomes
second nature to me soon...

>
> > However, the energy displays position in the center of the car is
> > somewhat distracting.
>
> One can change the display to something else, or even turn it off
> completely.

True
But -- I found myself constantly glancing at the energy
display to see how I could drive more efficiently.
I suppose as one racks up more experience with the Prius,
there is no need to view energy display.

>
> > I would have preferred an *energy* display next to speedometer
> > display
>
> That's coming with the 2010 model. *In fact, the center display screen
> will be gone completely unless you have the GPS navigation package.
>
> > However, for sudden short stop-and-go traffic and driving uphill *-
> > the Prius mpg suffered
>
> True, but it still gets better mileage under those conditions than other
> cars do, because their mileage suffers as well.
>
> > also *I've read that the Prius MPG also suffers when it is really
> > cold.
>
> As do all internal-combustion engines.
>
> > If one is driving in very agressive highway environment or short
> > trips that are have a great deal of stop and go traffic - it would be
> > difficult for a driver to modify their driving to get the optimum
> > fuel efficiency from the 2009 Prius.
>
> True, but the same is also true of other cars.
>
> > I found the fuel gauge is not a linear indicator of how much fuel is
> > left in the Prius.
>
> That's true of all gas gauges, but the bladder makes it more so with the
> Prius; the bladder is in only the US versions of the car, BTW.

Even so - I really wish the Prius had an an accurate 3/4 1/2 and 1/4
mark
indicators on the gasoline gauge.

Another cool software option might be an overall
Consumption Screen that would show the consumption of gas and
the mileage achieved since the last gas fill up so you could ask
whether it was really worth it to fill up with premium gas?.

>
> > The Prius is suppose to have a 11.9 gallon fuel *bladder" ;
>
> The bladder will be gone with the 2010 model.
>
> > The sunlight had a tendency to washout the LCD screen it would have
> > been easier to read if the LCD screen had some sun visor over top of
> > it.
>
> That's because the LCD screen is polarized for left-hand drive. *It's
> been a sore point for many drivers who have right-and drive models.
>
>
> > Not all of the buttons and dials on the dashboard and on the steering
> > wheel don't light up (at night) making them harder to find them in
> > the dark.
>
> Actually, all the ones on the steering wheel do, but they're not bright
> enough. *The ones on the dash that don't light up are rarely used.

What didn't light up that I would have really like to have lite up at
night:
the power side mirror control buttons on the driver's door, the dial
controlling the air vents (maybe green glow-in-the-dark plastic
dials?) ,
the horn button on the steering wheel.

Where I would have liked led lights - inside the driver's center
console compartment (to identify where that plug is ),
I would have also like more preset buttons for the radio on the
touch screen radio control panel -

If I had more time with the prius I would have like to
study the climate control more.


>
> > The Prius isn't a very fast car - so merging into a superhighway is
> > its weakest trait.
>
> I've never had a problem with that; the car can go up to over 100 MPH,
> and I've found acceleration to be very brisk. *It's not a muscle car,
> but it is peppy enough to not have any merge problems. *I'm up to
> highway speed by the time I reach the end of the onramp, before I am in
> the merge lane.

my experience....
When merging into I-270 ( a maryland super highway) there
was a dozen vehicles going at 65 miles per hour all driving
with about three car lengths between each of them - When
accelerating the Prius up to 60 to 65 miles per hour on the merging
lane to parallel to the right lane it seems that some vehicles
these were *speeding up* just to try to make it more difficult
for the prius to merge into the right lane ..

The owner manual warned not to drive faster than 85mph
which is the maximum speed the car's tires are rated for.


>
> --
> It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the GOP did to America.

In article <22dddcf7-29b0-4763-a96a-00951ae0c7b0
@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, (residualselfimage1999@gmail.com)
says...
> I'm not sure whether to believe or discount what I've
> been reading on the internet. However, it did freak me
> out and when it was raining last saturday - i didn't
> drive the prius.... I should have driven it in the rain
> maybe in a empty parking lot to test the braking
> in the rain - but I chickened out.
>
I've driven the Prius with the stock Goodyear Integrity tires in
torrential rain at highway speeds, as well as winding secondary roads,
and never had a problem.

In article <0bad91d1-c240-454f-9b87-c1d77851e028
@k38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, (residualselfimage1999@gmail.com)
says...

> > Considering that there is only one drive mode, you're always in the
> > correct drive mode. *"B" is not a drive mode, and shouldn't be used
> > except when driving on a long downhill. *It took me less than an hour
> > for that selector to become second nature.
>
> hmm... considering that CVT and hybrids are
> the wave of the future - I hope all this becomes
> second nature to me soon...

The Prius shifter is neither a CVT nor a hybrid thing... it's a Prius
thing.

> But -- I found myself constantly glancing at the energy
> display to see how I could drive more efficiently.
> I suppose as one racks up more experience with the Prius,
> there is no need to view energy display.

I use the energy/consumption display all the time, and it's no more of a
distraction than any other gauge. All it requires is an occasional
glance, which is no different than checking your mirrors.

> Another cool software option might be an overall
> Consumption Screen that would show the consumption of gas and
> the mileage achieved since the last gas fill up...

The consumption screen shows MPG since last reset, and miles since last
fill-up. If you hit [Reset] at each fill-up, then you'll have your
overall MPG for the last tank.

> ...so you could ask
> whether it was really worth it to fill up with premium gas?.

Filling up with premium will not gain you anything, except for a lighter
wallet.

In article <MPG.2452cce5f51edc309896b7@news.giganews.com>,
Mr. G <mrg@aol.com> wrote:

> I've driven the Prius with the stock Goodyear Integrity tires in
> torrential rain at highway speeds, as well as winding secondary roads,
> and never had a problem.

That was my experience--down to the "torrential rain" thing, not to
mention a couple decent winters.

Mine's a company car; when they changed out the OEM tires a few weeks
ago and put on some God-knows-what things, my mileage dropped like a
rock. Hint: the Prius is a carefully engineered system, down to the
tires. Change out anything, including the tires, and you break the
system. Want to keep the mileage up? Keep with the Integritys (or
similar tires designed for high fuel efficiency using low rolling
resistance design).